# Biden V. Palin watch-along thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 3, 2008, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253 "2008-10-03T00:00:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/521 "2008-10-03T03:13:29Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > No, I literally thought that you guys meant that she was really going to start drooling. > > Jesus, no. Of course, it was hyperbole. But you were wrong. She comes off looking and sounding very, very sharp here. I’ve culled some of the best quotes in the thread so far, thanks guys: “toxic mess on Main St that is affecting Wall St”? “How are we gonna get there to positively address those impacts”? I don’t wanna argue about the causes “deal with climate change clean up the planet so we can deal with climate change!” “Barack Obama and Senator O’Biden” “Oh, man, it’s just so obvious here that I’m a Washington outsider.” New Que Lar “Oh, man, it’s just so obvious here that I’m a Washington outsider.” “takin’ the politics out of war…” “McCain is the man we need to leave” McClellan She praised Cheney ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/522 "2008-10-03T03:14:33Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Palin managed to juggle the talking-point refrigerator magnets into something that could momentarily pass for answers. She gave answers, sure. They just weren’t to the question being asked. I think she had an imaginary moderator, one who asked the questions she was prepared to answer, and she responded to her imaginary moderator and not to reality. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/523 "2008-10-03T03:15:08Z")
_Her base will be relieved, but she isn’t going to change anybody’s mind._ I think that’s a fair summation. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/524 "2008-10-03T03:15:56Z")
Tina Fey must have had multiple orgasms for 90 minutes. She’s going to have so much **fun** on Saturday night! ---
**Author:** ![Auntbeast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Auntbeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Auntbeast)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/525 "2008-10-03T03:16:39Z")
Was that an Israeli flag she was also wearing? If so…wow, just wow. We all LOVE Israel! I’m sure sitting in Wasilla, she was actively loving Israel. I wish that Biden said that the reason he is on the ticket is because of his foreign policy experience, he was chosen because his strength is his candidates weakness. He did touch on the fact that Obama wanted him on his ticket to tell him no, to provide a foil for him. I wish there was a nice way to say that she was there solely to pander to women, fundies and um…uh…guys that can visualize her giving blowjobs. ---
**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/526 "2008-10-03T03:17:24Z")
> [@Shayna](#): > > Well now _there’s_ a real shocker that you would decide to snark on me in GD. Not. > > The woman hardly answered _any_ of the questions she was actually asked. She was told what she _must_ be sure to get in there, and by god she was going to get her talking points and jabs in, screw what the question was. And half the time I couldn’t understand the utter gibberish that was coming out of her mouth. Much of it was completely nonsensical! All she did all night was spew talking point after talking point after talking point, wink at the camera and put on her best folksy accent. She has no genuine grasp of the issues, just what she’s been coached to say. > > About the only thing she spoke with any authority on was Alaska and her “drill baby drill” philosophy, which Joe Biden made mincemeat of by reminding the audience that we only have 3% of the world’s oil supply, but consume more than 25% of it. Drilling won’t _ever_ make us energy independent. And _any_ time she didn’t like a question, or didn’t know an answer, she’d intentionally go back to that subject. As an observer trying to learn something about her policies or the answers to the specific questions, I learned absofuckinglutely nothing tonight. > > If you can claim to have, then I submit you didn’t actually pay _attention_ to the actual words that were coming out of her mouth. Absolutely. I think Palin did a good job of appearing confident. But there was nothing that convinced me that she had any clue what the heck was going on. Her points were lacking in substance and I didn’t hear any responses that convinced me she had a grasp on the issues and wasn’t just parroting what the McCain handlers had shoved down her throat. Why? Because she never responded to any questions. She either restated exactly what she said the first time around, or COMPLETELY changed the subject. “We’re talking about the housing crisis.” “Ok, well, I’m going to talk about energy now.” ---
**Author:** ![Lionne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Lionne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lionne)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/527 "2008-10-03T03:19:08Z")
I feel like I need to watch this debate a second time. Maybe my head wasn’t in it completely, maybe it was the shaky start or Palin’s repeated evasions, but I don’t feel like I got enough from this, not at all like last week’s debate. And, dammit, why didn’t I think to set up a BINGO game? ---
**Author:** ![Peanut\_Gallery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Peanut\_Gallery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanut_Gallery)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/528 "2008-10-03T03:20:16Z")
> [@Auntbeast](#): > > and um…uh…guys that can visualize her giving blowjobs. That doesn’t mean that I have to _vote for her_ does it? Cuz that would be… like … disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/529 "2008-10-03T03:21:41Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > Personally, I’m still waiting for them to get with it and send over Zombie Sherman and Zombie Grant. _Nobody_ expects Zombie Sherman. ---
**Author:** ![Auntbeast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Auntbeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Auntbeast)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/530 "2008-10-03T03:21:43Z")
Good god, this women is getting credit for not being a complete fuckup. It reminds me of Chris Rocks bit about not getting credit because “I don’t beat my kids.” Biden’s wife’s payment will be in heaven. Hey chicka, how about paying the bitch now? ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/531 "2008-10-03T03:22:00Z")
> [@Auntbeast](#): > > Was that an Israeli flag she was also wearing? I’m fairly sure it’s a “flag” indicating that she has a family member serving overseas. The number of stars on it is for how many people you have over there (I think.. I’ve seen 2 star versions). ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/532 "2008-10-03T03:24:03Z")
> [@Auntbeast](#): > > Biden’s wife’s payment will be in heaven. MrWhatsit’s response to that line was, “Uh, was that a threat?” ---
**Author:** ![quixotic78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3ab097/32.png) [@quixotic78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quixotic78)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/533 "2008-10-03T03:24:45Z")
(1) I hope to the god I don’t believe in that we don’t ever hear anything about how Biden was mean to Palin. He was very courteous, very kind, very civil, very gentlemanly, indisputably so. The first pundit to even hint that he was being mean will have every single one of their future statements disregarded by me for all eternity. (2) I thought Tina Fey’s impersonation was a little over the top. It turns out she was just psychic. (Seriously, _winking_? Are you kidding me? Once, I can forgive; you’re letting us in on a joke. But repeatedly? Seriously?) (3) It was very obvious when she would dive back into rehearsed, memorized lines. She’d maybe take a stab at a question (or just flat out say that she wasn’t going to answer the question), then she’d look down momentarily, look back up, and recite her lines. It was very much like an actor saying, colloquially, “Tonight, I’ll be doing a scene from ‘Alaskan Hockey Moms,’” then taking a breath, and then starting the scene. (4) Would it have killed you to include a little more specifics, Governor? Just a few factual statements? (5) Man, leading up to the debate, it was all Palin Palin Palin. I think Biden took this as an opportunity to say, “Hey, you know what? I’m here too, and I’m not that bad at all.” The Forgotten Man in this campaign reasserted himself tonight, and he did it very, very well. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/534 "2008-10-03T03:25:23Z")
I honestly think Palin was pulling a page form the GWB handbook, she’d listen attentively to the question, then give a folksy answer that had little or nothing to do with the question. On the one hand, I find this annoying as hell, on the other hand, GWB used it to get elected twice, so it apparently is a strategy that works. So I find myself wondering, will it work a third time or will the voting public find itself recalling the last two times it was used by the currently deeply unpopular president, and be turned off by it? I honestly don’t know. My other impression was that both of performances were much better then their respective ticket partners. They both came across better then McCain/Obama in their debate. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/535 "2008-10-03T03:26:19Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Well, there’s another shocker, ehe? OT: What is “ehe”? Well, I thought the 1st debate was a wash and ended up wrong. I thought this one was a strong win for Biden, and I’ll probably be wrong, too. Palin got really hissy with her esses partway through and it was seriously grating on my nerves. But I am a delicate flower, no doubt. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/536 "2008-10-03T03:26:38Z")
I turned 50 this year, and I am pretty sure that a politician has never winked at me before. Until tonight, that is. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/537 "2008-10-03T03:26:46Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > I’ve culled some of the best quotes in the thread so far, thanks guys How about, “There have been huge blunders in the war. There have been huge blunders throughout this administration, as there are with every administration.” :rolleyes: Transcript is up: [Transcript of Palin, Biden debate - CNN.com](http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/02/debate.transcript/?iref=mpstoryview) ---
**Author:** ![Gozu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gozu/32/6615_2.png) [@Gozu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/538 "2008-10-03T03:29:37Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > And just to leave no confusion about how disgusting and childish I can be. I’d still fuck her, …and her teenage daughter too. Preferably both at the same time. A mother and her daughter? At the same time? Now why would you do something like that? Would you enjoy a woman having sex with you and your father at the same time? No, I bet it would disgust you, wouldn’t it? Think about that for a second. It’s derogatory comments like those that elicit accusations of chauvinism and bigotry. That said, if they both came to me with that offer, I would find it hard to refuse. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/539 "2008-10-03T03:32:06Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Missed it while getting a pork brine going. Pork? Senator, is that you? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/540 "2008-10-03T03:32:42Z")
> [@quixotic78](#): > > (5) Man, leading up to the debate, it was all Palin Palin Palin. I think Biden took this as an opportunity to say, “Hey, you know what? I’m here too, and I’m not that bad at all.” The Forgotten Man in this campaign reasserted himself tonight, and he did it very, very well. We had the same discussion here why watching the debate. On the one hand, Palin certainly beat expectations that she’d step all over herself. On the other hand, Biden has been more or less a non-entity during this election, so I feel this may be the first time that many voters have given him a thought. And I thought he acquitted himself very well, so he may have done his ticket more good then one who has been following the election closely might think. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253.md?page=28)