# Biden v Trump: June 27 debate (Live debate comment here)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [June 25, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332 "2024-06-25T20:56:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/281 "2024-06-28T01:47:18Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> On to the felonies.

Let’s start with the misdemeanors push right on through to the lighter treasons

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**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/282 "2024-06-28T01:47:19Z")

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Trump won’t look Biden in the eye. I do notice that.

But I’m watching the end of an era.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/283 "2024-06-28T01:47:53Z")

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Trump’s violating his gag order now.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/284 "2024-06-28T01:47:59Z")

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Okay, now Joe’s getting into it. Talking about Trump’s fines, conviction, sex with a porn star. “He has the morals of an alley cat.”

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/285 "2024-06-28T01:48:16Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Sigh. I called it way back on June 6:
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> [Trump will not debate Biden on June 27, 2024, or thereafter either - #109 by EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/109)

I was usually called ageist when pointing out the obvious.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/286 "2024-06-28T01:49:34Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I’m not sure this is the only debate.

I hope it is.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/287 "2024-06-28T01:49:36Z")

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Trump is just running roughshod over this debate.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/288 "2024-06-28T01:49:51Z")

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> [@CoolHandCox](#):
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> Trump won’t look Biden in the eye. I do notice that.

I notice Biden staring off in the distance. He’s appeared literally catatonic for much of the time that Trump is speaking. This is not at all what we were hoping for.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/289 "2024-06-28T01:49:56Z")

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Hundreds of millions in donations? Really? Biden needs to call that shit out. One sentence to note the bullshit that it is.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/290 "2024-06-28T01:50:28Z")

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One thing that should have been noticed long ago is that DJT can read the setting and adapt to what will be best for him in that setting.

I know many here consider it blasphemous to attribute him ANY skill or guile, but **for purposes of closing a sale, Donald Trump CAN be effective when he can be arsed to try.** It’s just that by now in most circumstances he believes he’s above needing to close the sale, it’s just what he’s owed and someone else should do it for him. I never presumed we’d get “unhinged rambling Trump” from the start.

Agree with those who say Biden’s prep team may have overemphasized the “show how much better informed you are, he’ll be just bullshitting” angle. An old politician like him should know that _confident_ bullshit is powerful even if the audience suspects that’s what it is, and you should be focused.

> [@octopus](#):
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> These debates are about rhetoric and appearance more so than fact or logic. At the moment Biden isn’t sounding or looking as robust as Trump and that’s going to be a problem in the endless snippets that will be cherry picked to support a narrative.

Yep.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/291 "2024-06-28T01:50:42Z")

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I hope so. Unfortunately Biden is only getting older.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/292 "2024-06-28T01:50:45Z")

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Isn’t there another debate scheduled for September?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/293 "2024-06-28T01:50:50Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> > [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> > Sigh. I called it way back on June 6:
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> > [Trump will not debate Biden on June 27, 2024, or thereafter either - #109 by EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/109)
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> I was usually called ageist when pointing out the obvious.

Lots of folks assured me it was just jet lag or whatever, Biden would be fine in the debate. I hate being right now.

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**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/294 "2024-06-28T01:51:06Z")

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Totally agree.

It was just one moment when Biden was speaking directly to Trump about Trump.

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**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/295 "2024-06-28T01:51:57Z")

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I also don’t love the camera angle that makes it look as if Biden is staring off in space to the left.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/296 "2024-06-28T01:52:00Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> Unfortunately Biden is only getting older.

As is Trump.

I don’t think this is “just how Biden is now”. Because this is worse than we’ve seen him, even recently. I think he’s dealing with something. Just a guess on my part.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/297 "2024-06-28T01:52:01Z")

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Commercial time. I was thinking we were overdue for one.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/298 "2024-06-28T01:52:15Z")

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Commercial break, approximately 52 minutes in.

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Take the magic pills, Joe!

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/300 "2024-06-28T01:52:45Z")

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Joe isn’t looking at the camera.

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