# Biden v Trump: June 27 debate (Live debate comment here) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 25, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332 "2024-06-25T20:56:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/501 "2024-06-28T03:05:11Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > How many colds have you had when you were 81? What is your point? If a cold makes it so an 81-year-old can’t function properly, I question whether he can 1) win and 2) govern effectively. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/502 "2024-06-28T03:05:54Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > If a cold makes it so an 81-year-old can’t function properly, I question whether he can 1) win and 2) govern effectively. Being able to speak extemporaneously on live TV != “functioning properly” or “governing effectively”. Do you want a second Trump term? Because you’re sounding like you want a second Trump term. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/503 "2024-06-28T03:06:05Z")
MSNBC is showing Biden speaking at a watch party in Atlanta and he is much more on and doesn’t sound weak or addled. I’m wondering what the hell happened? Is it the live crowd and the hand held mic? I. AM. BAFFLED. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/504 "2024-06-28T03:06:10Z")
They’ve done such a lousy job of bringing VP Harris to the fore - there is just nobody on deck. It’s indefensible, and I’ve been saying it for two years now. With a President this age, the VP should have been much more front and center. Watching the DNC is like being a Monday-Morning football coach. I’m always wondering, is it Dunning/Krueger? Or would it really be THAT easy to do better than they are managing to do? ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/505 "2024-06-28T03:07:35Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Do you want a second Trump term? Because you’re sounding like you want a second Trump term. Of course we don’t. That’s why we’re so upset right now. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/506 "2024-06-28T03:08:00Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > MSNBC is showing Biden speaking at a watch party in Atlanta and he is much more on and doesn’t sound weak or addled. I’m wondering what the hell happened? Is it the live crowd and the hand held mic? > > I. AM. BAFFLED. I’m right there with you, @Kolak_of_Twilo . He’s got a good loud voice with a lot of emotion. He’s dancing to Beyonce. Where was _this_ guy during the debate? ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/507 "2024-06-28T03:08:15Z")
Probably two hundred million eligible people in this country and these two geriatrics are the best this country can apparently do. It’s pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/508 "2024-06-28T03:08:23Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > The gish gallop is a rhetorical technique. The counter is to realize you have no obligation to refute nor address every point your opponent raises. Talk to the larger audience with your message that resonates with them. Right. Biden could have done so, but he just wasn’t up for the challenge. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/509 "2024-06-28T03:08:29Z")
It’s just a first debate. The Democrats are not helping themselves by not talking about Biden’s substance, which was sometimes good but usually better. Unfortunately, what also came across was Biden looking flustered, sounding unsure, and lacking passion. I don’t blame Biden but his preparers. I don’t think this helped Biden at all. But his performance was not bad enough for one debate to be decisive. Neither did great, and so Biden could have done much better. Not one comment from either candidate was truly cutting or even memorable. But Biden looked more passive. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/510 "2024-06-28T03:08:57Z")
I agree that this was horrible but only because Biden looked a lot less fiery and more slow to compose his answer than he usually is. I don’t think he sounded particularly hoarse, nor do I think that Trump won any classic debate points by Gish Galloping. He kept throwing out multiple irrelevant points each the question, but it was the same irrelevant points. That’s partly why I stopped watching halfway: not only because of Biden being painful to watch, but because Trump literally sounded like a broken record. He literally could have been replaced with a tape recorder. As one prominent Xitterer would summarize: BORING! ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/511 "2024-06-28T03:09:03Z")
It could be the hand held mic. Biden does prefer them. He will reach for them over a podium mic. It works better for soft voices. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/512 "2024-06-28T03:10:15Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > That’s why we’re so upset right now. Then we should be focused on how Biden does better from here on out, not on some fantasy where he steps down in favor of some 35-year-old Liberal Avenger who doesn’t exist. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/513 "2024-06-28T03:10:26Z")
If that is the case then he has morons running his campaign. FUCK. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/514 "2024-06-28T03:10:34Z")
Exactly this. It was not a good night but people saying he’s done are overreacting just a tad. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/515 "2024-06-28T03:10:44Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > panic posting And now that you mention it a panic flailing response can compound the damage way beyond what would be organic to the bad debate performance. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/516 "2024-06-28T03:10:49Z")
Man, I bet Biden took a sip of water just before he went on and it went down the wrong pipe. I hate when that happens! It legit messes me up for hours! I’m going with that, so I can get a good night’s sleep. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/517 "2024-06-28T03:11:52Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Do you want a second Trump term? Because you’re sounding like you want a second Trump term. It sounds like you think I have more say in what Biden does than I really do. I’m expressing my opinion, which isn’t really much different than what Democratic operatives and talking heads are saying right now too. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/518 "2024-06-28T03:12:39Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > And now that you mention it a panic flailing response can compound the damage way beyond what would be organic to the bad debate performance. True. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/519 "2024-06-28T03:12:48Z")
Don’t forget next up is trump being sentenced. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/520 "2024-06-28T03:13:36Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > A cold should not fuck up someone’s ability to look presidential and strong. Well, look who he was standing next to. That guy probably deliberately had them hold off on changing him before going on, so that Joe would have to deal with the fragrance. I heard tell that Joe looked a lot better at an after-party. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332.md?page=25) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332.md?page=27)