# Biden v Trump: June 27 debate (Live debate comment here) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 25, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332 "2024-06-25T20:56:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/661 "2024-06-28T15:38:50Z")
OhByTheWay… My Nurse Practitioner wife – straining to stay tuned in to the debate – commented about five minutes in: > Biden needs physical therapy About ten minutes later > And occupational therapy And ten minutes after that > And speech therapy In a different world, with a different candidate running against Biden, I would have LOL’d. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/662 "2024-06-28T15:46:43Z")
> [@WalterBishop](#): > > If I were Biden’s advisor I would absolutely forbid him from doing another debate. One more performance like that could swing it for Trump. If you’re right, how does the campaign reply if Trump then _accurately_ says he’d be glad to debate Biden again before the election — _explaining_ that, as you say, one more performance like that from Biden could swing it for Trump — and here I am, ready and willing and able; is he ready and willing and able? I can do this every month or every week, whatever he wants; or do his advisors absolutely forbid even one? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/663 "2024-06-28T15:47:36Z")
> [@CoolHandCox](#): > > If you didn’t watch, I thought this take was a fair summary: > > Biden: look, the fact is, we can’t… we don’t… look. Here’s the deal. And this is no foolin. > > Trump: there are ten billion guatemalans attacking the lincoln memorial right now. Someone once said: “Ignorance on fire beats knowledge on ice.” ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/664 "2024-06-28T15:49:46Z")
Worse, the 2028 campaign will begin before inauguration day. If any good stems from last night’s debacle, it may be that we election reform advocates will find more voters open to our ideas. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/665 "2024-06-28T15:51:02Z")
> [@WalterBishop](#): > > If I were Biden’s advisor I would absolutely forbid him from doing another debate. One more performance like that could swing it for Trump. I think it depends on what the polls say in September. Generally, whichever side is losing has the most to gain from debates, it’s their chance to catch up. If Biden is trailing Trump by then, he (Biden) has every incentive to debate Trump as many times as possible. He might do better then. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/666 "2024-06-28T16:10:29Z")
> [@WalterBishop](#): > > > [@Lamoral](#): > > > > I seriously feel like if Biden had just started off his opening statement with, “Before we get started I just want everyone to know I’ve got a cold, so I’m sorry in advance for sounding like this!” and smiled, it would have gone a LONG way in buying him some goodwill. > > The trouble with this is that it may well not be true. It may be that his voice is weak because he’s suffering from some kind of neurological disorder. If that’s the case then he can’t blame it on a cold because colds get better. My mother had a neurological disorder that made her voice weak. It didn’t sound anything like that. Biden may not have a temporary cold. But he sounded like he had a respiratory disorder of some kind last night. > [@Loach](#): > > Whenever immigration came up Biden should have just kept hitting back that he has a plan but Trump ordered his people in Congress to block it thus hurting all Americans. Trump hurts America for his own gain. Hit it over and over. Yup. That would have been the true and effective answer. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/667 "2024-06-28T16:11:50Z")
Well, at least the book wasn’t “How To Feed Fifty Humans” and covered in space dust. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/668 "2024-06-28T16:14:33Z")
I don’t really understand why Biden was looking so far off to his left. Looking at the stage, it doesn’t seem like he was looking at the moderators. He was often turned to his left and looking at something in that direction. I wonder if his wife or advisors were over in that direction and he was looking at them. [![](https://i.imgur.com/CN6umV6.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/CN6umV6.png) If he was looking at the moderators, it seems like he should have been basically looking straight ahead no matter which one he was looking at. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/669 "2024-06-28T16:17:06Z")
My best guess is that he kept looking over at **[Rep. Jackie Walorski.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/biden-asks-deceased-congresswoman-present-white-house-event-rcna49898)** ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/670 "2024-06-28T16:21:12Z")
The Fourth Estate has devolved to the point where a 34-time convicted felon, a man charged with stealing military secrets AND an admitted sexual abuser, can openly lie to the face of the _President of the United States_, in a bid to get his job, and they will sit there quietly, saying nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/671 "2024-06-28T16:37:37Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > My take on that is he looked just like I look when I have a bad cold and am on some sort of cold med, breathing through my mouth and feeling like shit. Then he’s had a bad cold for the last couple of years. He’s clearly changed how he appears in public. He looked like grandpa at the [G7 memorial celebration](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=338ac2989bfe946c&sca_upv=1&q=biden+wanders+off+stage+at+d-day+2024&tbm=vid&source=lnms&fbs=AEQNm0Aa4sjWe7Rqy32pFwRj0UkWZJPk1C9buWu--tLPKEpSxLqGfZiWMqdk6VF37sVUbkfuZLTj2oNC7EnrW0kOrs5_yzXFS7PD2zj-5Cc29Wnj5IzUaHojAIdqyC1HLwD4s3t6yQTN3GWiMOqP8qmSGPrM-HvbeP0BNRK8Wqte9HmotWM1zQEo4dCAawyxemAaFagOZxAL5y9hRm7COvNj7qslVUA19g&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjOzq7M2v6GAxW4g4kEHbFKBdkQ0pQJegQIEBAB&biw=1252&bih=525&dpr=1.09#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:c77a11fb,vid:pKtudwc9Y-0,st:0). He was late joining in clapping with the other heads of state, wondered away from the main paratrooper and had to be redirected and then stood there slightly stooped with his mouth open while he slowly puts on his sun glasses which nobody else is wearing. He couldn’t look more over-the-hill if he tried. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/672 "2024-06-28T16:42:37Z")
Stuff Biden could say next debate (but won’t): - “I knew a guy once, a good salesman and fast talker but not honest or ethical. He sold toothbrushes. Orange hair. His angle was that he’d offer people these tasty free snacks; told them they were the best snacks ever. They’d eat them, wince in disgust, then tell the guy that these snacks were disgusting and that they tasted like shy_t. ‘It is shy_t’, he’d reply, with a big smirk on his face. ‘You wanna buy a toothbrush?’ Good salesman. You wouldn’t trust him to be your dentist.” - “After the debate, there’s gonna be guys who fact-check. Make a list of every lie Trump told. It’s gonna be a long list. Too long for me to reply to most of these lies now. If I took a small sip of whiskey for every lie Trump just told, I wouldn’t be allowed to drive home. I want you to look at this list after the debate. Ask yourself if you want someone who lies about their personal business to be the President. Ask yourself if you want this person with their finger on the button. Ask yourself if this person is going to make decisions that benefit themselves and give power to their family, or if they will do the ethical thing put you and the American people first.” ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/673 "2024-06-28T16:52:54Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > > [@Chefguy](#): > > > > My take on that is he looked just like I look when I have a bad cold and am on some sort of cold med, breathing through my mouth and feeling like shit. > > Then he’s had a bad cold for the last couple of years. He’s clearly changed how he appears in public. He looked like grandpa at the [G7 memorial celebration](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=338ac2989bfe946c&sca_upv=1&q=biden+wanders+off+stage+at+d-day+2024&tbm=vid&source=lnms&fbs=AEQNm0Aa4sjWe7Rqy32pFwRj0UkWZJPk1C9buWu--tLPKEpSxLqGfZiWMqdk6VF37sVUbkfuZLTj2oNC7EnrW0kOrs5_yzXFS7PD2zj-5Cc29Wnj5IzUaHojAIdqyC1HLwD4s3t6yQTN3GWiMOqP8qmSGPrM-HvbeP0BNRK8Wqte9HmotWM1zQEo4dCAawyxemAaFagOZxAL5y9hRm7COvNj7qslVUA19g&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjOzq7M2v6GAxW4g4kEHbFKBdkQ0pQJegQIEBAB&biw=1252&bih=525&dpr=1.09#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:c77a11fb,vid:pKtudwc9Y-0,st:0). He was late joining in clapping with the other heads of state, wondered away from the main paratrooper and had to be redirected and then stood there slightly stooped with his mouth open while he slowly puts on his sun glasses which nobody else is wearing. He couldn’t look more over-the-hill if he tried. Before this debate you would have been shouted down for suggesting that. The phrase I used was whistling in the dark. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/674 "2024-06-28T16:53:23Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > The Fourth Estate has devolved to the point where a 34-time convicted felon, a man charged with stealing military secrets AND an admitted sexual abuser, can openly lie to the face of the _President of the United States_, in a bid to get his job, and they will sit there quietly, saying nothing. I actually came in here to say that I thought that Tapper and Bash (“Tapper & Basher”) were absolutely terrible moderators. It wasn’t just the absence of fact-checking, which was apparently a pre-determined decision and would have really nailed Trump. It was also letting him get away with **completely avoiding** answering the question. There were a number of times when he’d start off with “first of all …” and then bloviate about something Biden had said earlier that was totally unrelated to the question, and use up his full two minutes doing it. And Tapper & Basher were just fine with it. He was also allowed to blather about how he would instantly stop the war in Ukraine without ever being challenged on the specifics of how he would do it, which is such an obvious question since he clearly has no plan. Just terrible moderation, and typical of CNN’s low journalistic standards. ---
**Author:** ![Jaycat.again](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat.again/32/11525_2.png) [@Jaycat.again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaycat.again)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/675 "2024-06-28T16:57:23Z")
never mind ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/676 "2024-06-28T17:00:56Z")
> [@Lamoral](#): > > I seriously feel like if Biden had just started off his opening statement with, “Before we get started I just want everyone to know I’ve got a cold, so I’m sorry in advance for sounding like this!” and smiled, it would have gone a LONG way in buying him some goodwill. You know, I think that’s a great point. That would have been the mood. When I get a cold, I can barely form sentences. Before I retired, my staff thought it was hilarious. Set the stage! ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/677 "2024-06-28T17:04:06Z")
As far the job Jake Tapper and Dana Bash did as hosts I think they did what was expected of them. The candidates are supposedly to be debating EACH OTHER and if one of them says something WRONG it is their opponent that should be calling them out–not the HOSTS. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/678 "2024-06-28T17:07:24Z")
> [@dorvann](#): > > As far the job Jake Tapper and Dana Bash did as hosts I think they did what was expected of them. > > The candidates are supposedly to be debating EACH OTHER and if one of them says something WRONG it is their opponent that should be calling them out–not the HOSTS. I agree. They were there to ask questions. Each candidate had minute rebuttal. All Biden had to do was refute the answer with “Well that’s a lie” or “He didn’t answer the question let me do it for you.” That he didn’t wasn’t the moderator’s fault. They were there to facilitate the debate not become active participants. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/679 "2024-06-28T17:09:33Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > My take on that is he looked just like I look when I have a bad cold and am on some sort of cold med, breathing through my mouth and feeling like shit. When they reported he’d been fighting a cold at a commercial break, that was my exact thought. I am barely functional with a bad cold. I just am. I realize that now it may not matter, but I am not ruling out that it was entirely attributable to the fact that he felt like shit. It is NOT over. In a little over a week, Trump gets sentenced. There’s time for the narrative to change. If it wasn’t a because of a cold, if despite all the steady performance at pressers and rallies he’s truly in significant decline, then we’re doomed. I don’t think there’s a viable Plan B. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332/680 "2024-06-28T17:11:44Z")
I have a hard time being too critical of the moderators. From the moment we turned on the TV, it said, “began 1:57 ago”. I thought, “Did we miss it?” But, no! It was hours of breathless pre-game, a la the Superbowl. Then they switched to the anchors (we watched on Peacock) who gave some breathless BS, before turning over to CNN. Before the first “response” was given, it was depressingly clear that the real loser would be any hope of substance. What an embarrassment of our culture. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332.md?page=33) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-june-27-debate-live-debate-comment-here/1003332.md?page=35)