# Biden v Trump. Why? Please explain to an Aussie **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 12, 2024, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464 "2024-02-12T07:30:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464/101 "2024-02-13T14:20:09Z")
> [@BlueOhio](#): > > I have no problem with VP Harris, but sometimes I think a Biden/Jon Stewart ticket would be a lock. I wonder (wish?) if he has any political aspirations. How many times do we have to say this? _President of the United States is not an entry-level position._ Stewart is a great guy, but he’s a comedian, not a statesman. ---
**Author:** ![BlueOhio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/439d5e/32.png) [@BlueOhio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlueOhio)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464/102 "2024-02-13T14:33:04Z")
I get that but at this point I just want to win and worry about the rest later. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464/103 "2024-02-13T15:44:37Z")
“Just win, never mind what comes next” sounds a lot like recent GOP campaigns, y’know. ---
**Author:** ![BlueOhio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/439d5e/32.png) [@BlueOhio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlueOhio)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464/104 "2024-02-13T15:48:24Z")
Desperate times, etc. If Stewart were an unhinged lunatic sure, but I think he’s grounded enough to simply sit still as VP and bring over young voters who can make a difference and turn the corner. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464/105 "2024-02-13T16:01:23Z")
Stewart’s smart enough to know it would be seen as an unserious gimmick if he were catapulted directly to the head of the ballot. Though a _Senate_ seat a-la-Franken… ---
**Author:** ![Rhodes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhodes/32/273_2.png) [@Rhodes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhodes)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464/106 "2024-02-13T16:14:15Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > … American voters are uninformed morons. As an American voter, I resemble this remark. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464/107 "2024-02-13T16:15:59Z")
re: dementia. A quick and easy way to distinguish forgetfulness vs. dementia. 1. I was _just_ holding my car keys, where did I put them? _ **Forgetfulness** _ 2. Forgetting you have a car. _ **Dementia** _ I haven’t seen anything to indicate the latter. Confusing two people’s names or countries is forgetfulness (he knows, just not in that moment). Not remembering the person at all or not remembering there is an actual country X is dementia. \*I’m not a doctor, but this is in the realm of correct. What I do see, is Biden looking _frail_. He shuffles more. He looks like an old man. Also can sound frail. Contrasting to Trump, who does not look like an old man - even though they are similarly aged (if you don’t take the Presidency serious I guess that doesn’t age you like the other Presidents). So, when you look old, and then make an obvious mistake, it’s not a good look and gets reported over and over. So Biden should embrace it. Just say he is old and that he is capable of doing the job (don’t use “but”). Both are true. And then list his accomplishments of this last term, there are many (As the oldest President, I did all this…) - he did. And then say what he will do when elected (or not do, like steal an election), his job record backs up the claim that he can do it. To me, since it’s going to be Biden, that’s the best you can do. ---
**Author:** ![BlueOhio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/439d5e/32.png) [@BlueOhio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlueOhio)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464/108 "2024-02-13T16:16:23Z")
Well, I was suggesting as the VP not the top of the ballot, but yes a NY Senate seat seems a lot more reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464/109 "2024-02-13T16:28:27Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Stewart is a great guy, but he’s a comedian, not a statesman. It’s weird I’m looking at a country under continual attack by its larger better-armed neighbor with envy because they have a president who was a comedian. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464/110 "2024-02-13T16:31:27Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > It’s weird I’m looking at a country under continual attack by its larger better-armed neighbor with envy because they have a president who was a comedian. That’s… a good point. This truly is the strangest timeline. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464/111 "2024-02-13T16:35:43Z")
Oooh. Nice. That background, I would argue, is Zelensky’s cross to [**bear**](https://variety.com/2022/film/news/ukrainian-president-zelenskyukrainian-president-volodymyr-zelensky-voiced-paddington-bear-1235191660/). ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464/112 "2024-02-13T16:37:51Z")
I hope you mean New Jersey. Jon is a New Jersey guy and resident and lives not too far from me. We even have a Senate Seat opening up soon thanks to the super-corrupt Bob Mendendez. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464/113 "2024-02-13T16:38:57Z")
If Jon Stewart ran I’d vote for him as many times as I could. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464/114 "2024-02-13T16:41:47Z")
Don’t be piggish. 3 or 4 times is plenty. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464/115 "2024-02-13T17:03:44Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > 2016 the early-Boomers were still reasonably spry and electable, and in its wisdom the Democrat electorate decided that the would-be successor could again go back a generation, with Bernie or Hillary Hillary (born 1947) _is_ a Boomer. She’s a year younger than Bill and the Orange one (and George W. Bush) and the same age as Mitt Romney. Bernie Sanders is older than Biden. ---
**Author:** ![BlueOhio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/439d5e/32.png) [@BlueOhio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlueOhio)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464/116 "2024-02-13T17:45:45Z")
Of course. I get you flyover states all mixed up /s ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464/117 "2024-02-13T17:55:55Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I recommend a dose of no more than about five or ten minutes of exposure to Fox. That’s a lifetime dosage, right? No per day or per week. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464/118 "2024-02-13T20:26:42Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > And that part of the answer to “Why Biden?” (in 2020 and in 2024) is (as @Exapno_Mapcase and maybe others pointed out) “Because Trump.” Yep. Biden is the trump beater. > [@Alessan](#): > > Gretchen Whitmer? Cory Booker? Josh Shapiro? All vital, talented people who should be running the country today. Booker is batchit insane. Door to door confiscations of assault weapons? But you forget Harris, Newsom, and Abrams. All much more well known than any of those three. The reason why we have Joe Biden today is trump. Besides- Biden has really done a solid job as President. Why kick out a winner due to age? > [@Alessan](#): > > How many times do we have to say this? _President of the United States is not an entry-level position._ Stewart is a great guy, but he’s a comedian, not a statesman. Yep. Steward has some weird ideas and moments, he could turn out to be another trump. > [@wolfpup](#): > > That’s because American voters are uninformed morons. This is not true, Over half the Voters voted for Biden over trump. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464/119 "2024-02-13T23:32:06Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > Strictly, baby boomers had to be conceived by de-mobilized servicemen after VJ day. While I appreciate the intent of the generational determiner, I have a disagreement with my sister over this matter. Generations are fuzzy group determiners basically only useful in the aggregate. They can tell trends of behavior and trends of thought based on common social/ cultural experiences during their formative years. As such, the lines are very blurry. Add to it that we don’t really know what makes a generation break until years later, and what to call the generation until after that. This we get such descriptive monikers like Gen Y and Gen Z. (Gen X doesn’t count, that label was descriptive. Y and Z were just the next letters.) As such, I submit that children who were born during WW2 grew up with the same post war experiences as the nominal Boomers, and that they have more in common with Boomers than people who reached adulthood around the time of WW2. I submit that my parents, born in '40 and '42 are Boomers. Heck, even my Uncle born in '37 is more a Boomer than not. Ok, hijack over. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2024, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464/120 "2024-02-13T23:51:09Z")
Jon Stewart has returned to The Daily Show for one episode per week. Last night was his first episode now that he has returned. In that episode he pretty much wrecks Biden for his age. Trump too but more Biden. Overall he notes both are too old for this job. Later, he interviews Zanny Minton Beddoes who is the editor-in-chief of The Economist and she agrees. She notes she likes Biden and thinks he has done a good job but he should not run again. Beddoes and Stewart think Trump, while also too old, is just all kinds of wrong. Stewart notes this is not ageism. (Note: Beddoes interview is not in this link but can be found on YouTube easily.) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/NpBPm0b9deQ/maxresdefault.jpg "Jon Stewart Tackles The Biden-Trump Rematch That Nobody Wants | The Daily Show") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpBPm0b9deQ&t=210/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-trump-why-please-explain-to-an-aussie/997464.md?page=7)