# Biden will recognize Guaido as Venezuela's leader **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 20, 2021, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994 "2021-01-20T17:36:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994/1 "2021-01-20T17:36:45Z")
> **[Biden will recognize Guaido as Venezuela's leader, top diplomat says](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-state-venezuela-idUSKBN29O2PE?taid=600767fc46b67f000162023b&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:%2BTrending%2BContent&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter)** > > U.S. President-elect Joe Biden's administration will continue to recognize Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido as the South American country's president, Anthony Blinken, Biden's nominee for secretary of state, said on Tuesday. I suppose it was too optimistic to hope for a change. US foreign policy doesn’t change much no matter who occupies the White House. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994/2 "2021-01-20T17:43:35Z")
Why do you want change, though? Seems like Guaido is better than Maduro. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994/3 "2021-01-20T17:46:27Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > US foreign policy doesn’t change much no matter who occupies the White House. This doesn’t seem to be supported by reality. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994/4 "2021-01-20T17:46:32Z")
It has to be noted here that even The Council of the _Socialist International_ recognize deputy Juan Guaidó as the leader of Venezuela. That is how immature Maduro is. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994/5 "2021-01-20T17:47:39Z")
I don’t think the US’s many previous forays into regime change have had good results. And Guaido already failed his first coup attempt and has no more legitimacy than Maduro. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994/6 "2021-01-20T17:49:29Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > It has to be noted here that even The Council of the _Socialist International_ recognize deputy Juan Guaidó as the leader of Venezuela. > > That is how immature Maduro is. Maduro is remarkably incompetent at running his country, but I think the US sanctions are just making a bad situation worse. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994/7 "2021-01-20T17:51:30Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > Maduro is remarkably incompetent at running his country, but I think the US sanctions are just making a bad situation worse. There is no contradiction on realizing that sanctions and the attempted coup in Venezuela by the Trump administration were, besides stupid, making the situation worse and realizing that Maduro should go. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994/8 "2021-01-20T17:56:30Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > There is no contradiction on realizing that sanctions and the attempted coup in Venezuela by the Trump administration were, besides stupid, making the situation worse and realizing that Maduro should go. How does recognising someone who’s widely considered a US puppet help that, though? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994/9 "2021-01-20T18:02:51Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > How does recognising someone who’s widely considered a US puppet help that, though? The fact that other nations and international organizations do recognize Guaidó. [https://share.america.gov/support-for-venezuelas-juan-guaido-grows-infographic/](https://share.america.gov/support-for-venezuelas-juan-guaido-grows-infographic/) > **[EU countries recognise Juan Guaidó as interim Venezuelan leader](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/04/juan-guaido-interim-venezuela-leader-europe)** > > Coordinated move comes after deadline for Maduro to call presidential elections expires BTW that does not also remove the reality that Guaido is not looking as being so capable. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994/10 "2021-01-20T18:07:00Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > BTW that does not also remove the reality that Guaido is not looking as being so capable. 🙂 It’s been two years and Maduro is still President. I don’t really see the benefit of ignoring that reality. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994/11 "2021-01-20T18:08:11Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > It’s been two years and Maduro is still President. I don’t really see the benefit of ignoring that reality. I don’t think you can quote where I said that we should ignore it. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994/12 "2021-01-20T18:15:51Z")
Not you, I meant the US and EU and those other countries. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994/13 "2021-01-20T18:18:17Z")
Same there, can you quote where they are ignoring it? Besides the US, other nations are not negotiating with Maduro while he is president. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994/14 "2021-01-20T20:33:56Z")
Not negotiating with Maduro is one thing. But he _is_ still president. That’s the reality. What’s the benefit to pretending Guaido is the leader when he isn’t? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994/15 "2021-01-20T20:36:14Z")
Uh, that is not a cite that anyone is ignoring Maduro, they continue to pressure him to do the right thing. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994/16 "2021-01-20T20:38:39Z")
I didn’t say they are ignoring Maduro, I said they are ignoring reality by recognising as leader someone who isn’t actually president and has no power. I think you just misunderstood what I wrote. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994/17 "2021-01-20T20:40:05Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > I didn’t say they are ignoring Maduro, I said they are ignoring reality by recognising as leader someone who isn’t actually president and has no power. That is part of the measures to pressure Maduro, it is not the only thing being done. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994/18 "2021-01-20T20:54:01Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > That is part of the measures to pressure Maduro, it is not the only thing being done. I just think, if it’s not working, why continue? And it’s not the US’s job to ‘fix’ Venezuela, especially when they have such a history of aiding coups and supporting terrible regimes in Latin America. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994/19 "2021-01-20T21:02:00Z")
Again, it is not just the USA, and **I already granted that the US is not helping here.** ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-will-recognize-guaido-as-venezuelas-leader/930994/20 "2021-01-20T21:09:21Z")
What do you think would help?