# Biden's choice for vice presidential candidate **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 10, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505 "2020-04-10T15:04:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2020, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/381 "2020-07-21T14:32:57Z")
Well, Biden [says](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-says-four-black-women-are-on-vp-list-won-t-commit-to-choosing-one/ar-BB170i8m?ocid=msedgdhp) that four black women are on his VP list. No surprises on it {Harris, Rice, Demings, Lance-Bottoms), except that Abrams seem to still be under consideration as a fifth possibility. ETA: this doesn’t mean that someone like Duckworth is no longer under consideration. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2020, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/382 "2020-07-21T22:26:43Z")
At this point if he does not pick a black woman there will be a large uproar from the left. ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/383 "2020-07-24T11:56:59Z")
The backlash against the leftist tyranny has begun. Voters do not agree that every ticket must have a protected class candidate… I think if Biden picks a woman, Trump will beat her again. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/384 "2020-07-24T13:05:38Z")
The voters have been fully aware for months that Biden will pick a woman, yet the polls show him with a commanding lead. I find it hard to believe that seeing this promise kept is going to drive voters away from him. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/385 "2020-07-24T13:14:30Z")
I wonder if, in a perverse way, Hillary’s loss might redound to the favor of future women candidates. Will people realize, “This is what misogyny got us!”? As low as my opinion is as to the rationality and intelligence of the US electorate, I can imagine that at least SOME knuckledraggers will come to appreciate that minimal competence is at least as important as the possession of a penis. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/386 "2020-07-24T21:14:34Z")
Add Susan Rice to the list, eh. > **[In VP search, Biden has a known quantity in Susan Rice](https://apnews.com/a039b1438447d18e01d7fde247c666e7)** > > WASHINGTON (AP) — As then-Vice President Joe Biden left the West Wing each evening to head home, he often popped his head into national security adviser Susan Rice’s nearby suite of offices to check in — sometimes on pressing foreign policy matters,... ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/387 "2020-07-24T22:53:42Z")
Search says her name’s been mentioned nine times already. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/388 "2020-07-25T05:35:22Z")
Yep, pretty sure I mentioned her as one of my preferred choices fairly recently. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/389 "2020-07-25T14:03:41Z")
I think it’ll come down to what’s lurking in the backgrounds of each potential veep candidate. There are no obvious choices. What some add to the ticket in terms of progressive bona fides, they might subtract in terms of not having experience or perhaps not really having compatibility with Biden. I think Joe wants someone who has some actual experience in Washington, which rules out someone like Abrams, who would give the ticket a jolt in terms of her popularity with progressives and African Americans, but would be a major question mark in terms of wooing more moderate voters. Susan Rice, OTOH, just seems like the kind of selection who’s going to scare away progressives who have any kind of reservations about Biden already. Biden is probably under considerable pressure to choice an African American woman because of his assistance from Jim Clyburn early in the campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/390 "2020-07-25T14:46:54Z")
What’s the problem with Rice for left wingers? She worked for Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/391 "2020-07-25T18:34:05Z")
Obama was a problem for a lot of progressives who felt let down when he turned out to be the establishment liberal he had always been, rather than the progressive idealist they had hoped for. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/392 "2020-07-25T21:16:32Z")
Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the very good. A perfect liberal is not likely to ever win an election for prez in the US ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/393 "2020-07-26T03:15:58Z")
And Obama is still very popular among the vast majority of Dems. Once he starts cutting TV and radio ads for Biden and his running mate, and making personal appearances for them (COVID-19 permitting, of course), it could make a _big_ difference in some battleground states. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/394 "2020-07-26T04:44:32Z")
As long as Biden’s numbers stay like they are I doubt BHJ will self-deploy until Sept/Oct. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/395 "2020-07-26T05:01:12Z")
BHJ? whodat? ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/396 "2020-07-26T16:26:42Z")
Obama already cut a video with Biden. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/r3hgsAXbvWc/maxresdefault.jpg "A Socially Distanced Conversation: President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3hgsAXbvWc) And BHJ? Don’t you remember [Basketball Hardcourt Jones](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlhWPVJNAOo)? ---
**Author:** ![putnam6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/putnam6/32/4082_2.png) [@putnam6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/putnam6)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/397 "2020-07-26T16:46:15Z")
Considering his VP choice is likely to be President if he wins I’d go with Susan Rice, Downside is she is same ole same ole, but she just might give the US some stability is so dearly needed. Any of the others I’d have serious concerns about the experience and personality. I like Keisha Lance Bottoms a lot except on experience, that said she is so much better so much more presidential than Stacy Abrams. ---
**Author:** ![rboyce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rboyce/32/4066_2.png) [@rboyce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rboyce)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/398 "2020-07-26T17:03:09Z")
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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/399 "2020-07-26T20:29:43Z")
Barak H. Obama. ---
**Author:** ![putnam6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/putnam6/32/4082_2.png) [@putnam6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/putnam6)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/400 "2020-07-27T06:24:50Z")
Seriously doubt Abrams could even deliver Biden the state of Georgia, besides in this race the progressives are already in Biden’s camp Better to target potential Trump voters in moderate Democrats and undecided. I know the polls but worse thing Biden could do is think he has it sewn up. People know that VP choice will likely be President it’s an important choice. Susan Rice checks a lot of the boxes needed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505.md?page=21)