# Biden's choice for vice presidential candidate **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 10, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505 "2020-04-10T15:04:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/401 "2020-07-27T15:32:15Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the very good. A perfect liberal is not likely to ever win an election for prez in the US Have you met a lot of Bernie supporters? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/402 "2020-07-27T15:42:34Z")
The ones that don’t even turn out to vote for Bernie? Those supporters? ---
**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/403 "2020-07-27T18:08:43Z")
> [@putnam6](#): > > Considering his VP choice is likely to be President if he wins I’d go with Susan Rice, Downside is she is same ole same ole, but she just might give the US some stability is so dearly needed. Any of the others I’d have serious concerns about the experience and personality. He needs to stick to this logic. With his current poll standing, there’s very little upside to be had from the VP pick. More likely there’s a 4-point swing against him no matter who he chooses, but he can try to limit it. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/404 "2020-07-27T19:20:09Z")
> [@rboyce](#): > > Elizabeth Warren has already stated what she would do if given a chance. (massive snips) Warren might have made a great president, but Biden really needs to go with someone younger for veep. He doesn’t need Warren as VP to enact elements of this plan, and she doesn’t need to be VP to introduce and battle for it. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/405 "2020-07-27T20:29:48Z")
Agreed. Two white northeastern oldsters, however worthy, are not an ideal Dem ticket this year. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/406 "2020-07-27T20:59:21Z")
I hope he names a pick soon so we don’t have to hear the silliness of picking Abrams. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/407 "2020-07-27T23:29:27Z")
I had a dream last night that Biden picked Susan Rice (why yes, I probably am spending way too much time reading and thinking about this). Except in my dream her last name was Cotton. But when I went to her Wikipedia page in my dream (why yes, I read Wikipedia in my dreams), it was Susan Rice’s picture and bio. I remember even thinking, “Hmm, I always thought her name was Susan Rice. Why did I not know her last name was actually Cotton?” Anyway my subconscious brain apparently thinks it’s gonna be Susan Rice. My conscious brain still wants Tammy Duckworth. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/408 "2020-07-28T00:48:25Z")
I think maybe the Tom Cotton headlines got mixed into your dream too. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/409 "2020-07-28T13:13:46Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Anyway my subconscious brain apparently thinks it’s gonna be Susan Rice. My conscious brain still wants Tammy Duckworth. For the record, what I’m about to say is meant to be tongue in cheek and not to cast aspersions on the quality of said candidate, but… “Tammy Duckworth” is a Veep or 30 Rock character, not a serious VP contender. My money is on Susan Rice. Not all of my money. Just my loose change jar. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/410 "2020-07-28T13:18:25Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > “Tammy Duckworth” is a Veep or 30 Rock character, not a serious VP contender. I take it by the quotes you mean her name. “Barack Hussein Obama” didn’t have a conventional-sounding name either. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/411 "2020-07-28T13:20:09Z")
Yep. Just her name. Always gives me a childish giggle. I’m not proud of it. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/412 "2020-07-28T14:29:49Z")
I’m still thinking it’ll be Harris. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/413 "2020-07-28T15:42:47Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Yep. Just her name. Always gives me a childish giggle. I’m not proud of it. Same here. I’m not sure I could keep a straight face if, four years from now, I’m putting a Duckworth/Hickenlooper bumper sticker on my car. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/414 "2020-07-28T16:00:13Z")
As long as the bumpersticker said “ **Re-elect** Duckworth/Hickenlooper” I could get through it. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/415 "2020-07-28T19:17:31Z")
Nope. CA is deep, dark Blue, Harris is too Mired in Police issues, and she insulted Joe. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/416 "2020-07-28T19:24:22Z")
In [this 538 podcast](https://fivethirtyeight.com/videos/how-bidens-vp-pick-could-shape-perceptions-of-the-ticket-overall/), they discuss the narratives around several possible VP picks. Perry Bacon Jr. thinks Harris is the most likely choice. The others definitely feel she is toward the top of the list. (They start talking about VPs at about the 30 minute mark - sorry to link to a podcast, c’est la vie.) Claire Malone thinks her prosecutorial background might end up being a plus for some voters, as it argues against the ludicrous narrative that the Trump campaign is currently deploying (i.e. Biden and leftist radicals will throw the country into anarchy). So, nope to your nope. (Personally, I am not a big fan of Harris, so I hope it’s not her). ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/417 "2020-07-28T19:54:39Z")
Bush Sr. hit Reagan pretty hard in 1980 primaries , Voodoo Economics was his term for Reagan’s plan. Harris going after Biden is not that big of a deal if he wants to pick her. I think Rice is probably top of the list now. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/418 "2020-07-29T01:44:48Z")
Betting markets (PredictIt, anyway) went sharply towards Harris about 4 hours ago. She’d always been one of the highest bets, but as of now she’s over 50%. My instincts tell me she’s not a great choice - she ran a poor primary campaign after a hot start, and if she becomes veep she’ll likely be Prez nominee at some point. But we’ll see. Right now I guess my top choice is Bass, and maybe Lujan-Grisham in second. I like Rice fine but we have no idea of her campaigning skills, which makes her a big risk IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/419 "2020-07-29T01:52:26Z")
You know why, right? [Biden’s “overseen” notes](https://apnews.com/d3fc8b88cde56bac9f1e7b5e494fb019) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/420 "2020-07-29T02:04:24Z")
I hadn’t seen that. We’ll see if it means anything next week I guess. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505.md?page=22)