# Biden's choice for vice presidential candidate **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 10, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505 "2020-04-10T15:04:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/643 "2020-08-07T15:31:00Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > True or not, none of that excuses or justifies your disgusting, objectifying posts. Yes it does. Nice try to deflect your candidates actions to me as an anonymous poster on a message board. You can try and sweep Biden’s questionable actions under the rug, but I have a right to express my opinion…or will you try and get me banned to suppress my own right of free speech, under the guise of misogyny? ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/644 "2020-08-07T15:34:43Z")
Going back to what this thread is supposed to be about: > **[Biden Needs a VP. Kamala Suddenly Sounds More Like Bernie.](https://www.thedailybeast.com/biden-needs-a-vp-kamala-suddenly-sounds-more-like-bernie)** > > “In moments as critical as these, we need folks to unite, we need allies,” said Nina Turner, a former Sanders surrogate. “You’ve got to give credit where credit is due on that.” > [@](#): > > The strategy isn’t as unexpected or unusual as it might at first seem. Biden himself often consults with Sanders, his longtime friend, on areas where they can unite. With his running-mate selection looming, Harris is making moves in the same, leftward direction, and allies in both camps have taken note. > > Harris has, in recent weeks, put her name behind bills that would give Americans $2,000 stipends, provide masks universally across the country, and send supplemental food-stamp benefits to communities in need. Those closest to her say she’s operating from a sincere ideological position and that the public perception of her as a non-progressive has always missed the mark. > [@](#): > > But the timing of the legislative output has political implications that extend into the presidential campaign. And it has gotten the notice of some committed Sanders fans. Seems Harris is making some moves that would be acceptable to the Sanders side of the party, which is smart politics when being considered for the VP slot. Especially since it appears she is seen as far less a progressive than Sanders/Warren by the general public. She can seemingly navigate the middle lane between the Biden side and the Sanders side. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/645 "2020-08-07T15:35:03Z")
Regardless of whatever the fuck Omar Little thought he was doing, it has fuck-all to do with this thread. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/646 "2020-08-07T15:37:04Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > > > True or not, none of that excuses or justifies your disgusting, objectifying posts. > > Yes it does. Nice try to deflect your candidates actions to me as an anonymous poster on a message board. You can try and sweep Biden’s questionable actions under the rug, but I have a right to express my opinion…or will you try and get me banned to suppress my own right of free speech, under the guise of misogyny? I’ve criticized Biden plenty on this board for the actual and legitimate accusations of inappropriate touching. That doesn’t justify sexualizing images, without their consent, of women and children who have not made any such accusations. Their bodies are their own, and it’s wrong to post images of them being touched in a way meant to sexualize them, as you did. This isn’t hard. Criticize someone all you want for the real accusations, which exist in Biden’s case. I certainly have. But it’s disgusting and shameful to rope in any old image of someone being touched and sexualize it without their consent. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/647 "2020-08-07T15:37:05Z")
I’m happy to let it drop. But if I’m going to be impugned, I’m going to respond. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/648 "2020-08-07T15:40:01Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > Seems Harris is making some moves that would be acceptable to the Sanders side of the party, which is smart politics when being considered for the VP slot. Especially since it appears she is seen as far less a progressive than Sanders/Warren by the general public. She can seemingly navigate the middle lane between the Biden side and the Sanders side. She is a smart political candidate. And if put on the ticket, has a high chance of being the first woman POTUS in '24. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/649 "2020-08-07T15:42:34Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > I’m happy to let it drop. But if I’m going to be impugned, I’m going to respond. Yeah, throw a misogynistic bomb into an unrelated thread and then whine when you’re called out for it. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/650 "2020-08-07T15:45:43Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > misogynistic bomb Keep using that word and you might be able to make it true, is that your hope? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/651 "2020-08-07T15:48:03Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > > > misogynistic bomb > > Keep using that word and you might be able to make it true, is that your hope? You know, instead of doubling down on using images of women and children for sexual purposes (maybe without fully realizing it) without their consent, your could just say “that was dumb and I apologize and I won’t do it again”. Why not just do that? Why is it so important for you to defend sexualizing images of women and children when they haven’t consented to this usage? ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/652 "2020-08-07T15:50:25Z")
One, you clearly don’t understand the definition of misogyny. Two, your opinion that the images are sexualizing women and children, is that, your opinion. To me, the images show the inappropriateness of Biden. Again, I’ve agreed to drop it. So we can agree to disagree. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/653 "2020-08-07T15:54:21Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > One, you clearly don’t understand the definition of misogyny. Says the guy who, without their consent, posts images of women and children being touched. If you think that’s okay, then you clearly don’t understand misogyny. > [@](#): > > To me, the images show the inappropriateness of Biden. And somehow you refuse to let the women and children involved have the chance to make this decision about their own bodies. You’ve decided that you can make a decision for women and girls about what is inappropriate for their bodies; their view is unimportant to you. Clearly you don’t understand misogyny. > [@](#): > > Again, I’ve agreed to drop it. So we can agree to disagree. I’m sure you’d prefer to not have your misogyny called out. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/654 "2020-08-07T16:02:25Z")
I haven’t been keeping up with the thread, but figured I’d just lob this thought out there. Sally Yates is my favorite candidate for VP. Not sure if she’d want the job, and I don’t know if she has presidential aspirations, but I really like the idea of a prosecutor with a minimum of political baggage in the role. Especially considering the reckoning that really needs to come after 4 years of epic corruption. She’s politically somewhat green, but no less so than several of the other women bandied about, and I don’t see any reason why she’d become a lightning rod for the opposition, any moreso than any generic candidate would anyways. . ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/655 "2020-08-07T16:10:45Z")
I met and heard a living-room talk by Sally Yates a few years back and liked her a lot, but think she would probably make a better AG. I will be very surprised if Biden’s VP pick isn’t a WOC. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/656 "2020-08-07T16:42:47Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’m sure you’d prefer to not have your misogyny called out. As a neutral 3rd party observer of the thread, I’d prefer to see a prolonged discussion of someone’s misogyny in the Pit, rather than crapping it up in here. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/657 "2020-08-07T16:50:57Z")
Those are edited and faked vids. Note the slo-mo, etc. You are not posting public images, you are posting some faked-up vids shared around the internet by Maga-hat wearing trolls. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/658 "2020-08-07T17:01:08Z")
Also shared around the internet by disgruntled Bernie fans as well. And to keep this post relevant to the topic - I am expecting the pick to either be Rice or Harris. I don’t see any logical reason to go with any of the others I’ve seen mentioned. Maybe Duckworth but I find that unlikely at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/659 "2020-08-07T17:31:41Z")
[Rice is reported as divesting in stocks.](https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/susan-rice-divested-herself-of-netflix-stock-options-could-it-be-a-sign-she-is-bidens-vp-pick/) Could be moves to reduce her footprint as a target for opposition criticisms. ---
**Author:** ![putnam6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/putnam6/32/4082_2.png) [@putnam6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/putnam6)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/660 "2020-08-07T23:50:22Z")
[https://nypost.com/2020/08/01/joe-biden-delays-vp-announcement-another-week/](https://nypost.com/2020/08/01/joe-biden-delays-vp-announcement-another-week/)In March, Biden promised to choose a woman for the job and since then may names have risen and fallen. Sen. Kamala Harris, Rep. Karen Bass, and former National Security Advisor Susan Rice are [among the current finalists](https://nypost.com/2020/07/21/joe-biden-says-four-black-women-are-on-vp-shortlist/). “For Joe Biden, this is crunch time. After all the vetting, all the investigations into the prospective nominees, it’s now up to Joe. It’s personal,” [said former] **New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson**. “It’s now about his gut feeling.” So we are just ignoring the Epstein stuff and letting Bill Richardson speak for the campaign? > **[Former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson implicated in newly unsealed Jeffrey...](https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/former-new-mexico-gov-bill-richardson-implicated-in-newly-unsealed-jeffrey-epstein-docs/)** > > Bill Richardson, the former Democratic governor of New Mexico, has been implicated in the Jeffrey Epstein scandal trafficking scandal.The Daily Beast reports that newly unsealed court documents show that Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre claims that... ---
**Author:** ![Crunched\_Frog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crunched_frog/32/3491_2.png) [@Crunched\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunched_Frog)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/661 "2020-08-08T00:17:55Z")
In what possible way is he “speaking for the campaign”? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/662 "2020-08-08T00:24:19Z")
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