# Biden's choice for vice presidential candidate

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 10, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505 "2020-04-10T15:04:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/903 "2020-08-12T15:20:32Z")

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I wonder how long until her “long form” birth certificate is demanded.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/904 "2020-08-12T15:24:41Z")

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I’m not crazy about Harris for several reasons but Biden had my vote before, and he for sure still has it now. She’s smart and tough and I could see her someday as President. It’s a solid choice and does no harm, I’d say.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/905 "2020-08-12T15:31:00Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I’m not crazy about Harris for several reasons but Biden had my vote before, and he for sure still has it now.

And, to be honest, this is likely to be all that matters in the run-up to the election. This one is between Biden and Trump. Whether it should be or not, the VP ticket on both sides is likely to be largely irrelevant.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/906 "2020-08-12T16:23:32Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Will there be any racial pushback from, well, _anyone_ , because although Harris is a woman of color, she’s not African-American?

I don’t think so. In her case, unlike Obama’s, she was raised solely in the US, and experienced some events that define the African American experience such as busing. In addition, she attended Howard, a historically black university and was a member of AKA, a historically black sorority. The black women I have heard from (obviously a limited sample) feel that this gives her African American cred, for lack of a better phrase.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/907 "2020-08-12T16:30:54Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Even if I didn’t already know this, I could tell you’re not a progressive XT 😆. Because man, many progressives do not care for Harris and she’s not one herself. Despite her pretty liberal-seeming voting record in the Senate she’s more identified with the doctrinaire liberal establishment Dems like Biden than the activist progressives. 538 makes the same note in their commentary on the [Harris pick](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/kamala-harris-biden-vice-president/).
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> Her pick is a partial rebuke to progressives, not a salve for them. She’s okay on that front mind you. She’s a San Francisco left-moderate like Gavin Newsome was, which=pretty liberal in most other corners of the country. But to call her a progressive would be a stretch and considering her history as an AG she’s undoubtedly a disappointing pick for a lot of genuine progressives.

huh…I didn’t know that. I always thought of her as a progressive, not an establishment liberal. That puts this in a new light for me. I have to admit in the last few years I’ve kind of fallen out of touch with most US politics, as the entire thing just seems like such a morass. Appreciate the info…I’ll look over the link and rethink some of the assumptions I was making that seem flawed.

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/908 "2020-08-12T16:38:25Z")

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Wherever you read that, you should stop reading there.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/909 "2020-08-12T16:38:34Z")

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Trump’s in trouble. This [video removed by moderator] looks pretty tough…

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/910 "2020-08-12T16:47:42Z")

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I’m guessing you think that’s funny, but it’s 4th grade racist bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Mallard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Mallard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mallard)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/911 "2020-08-12T17:08:32Z")

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IMHO, this is an excellent choice for VP. A strong willed, progressive yet still enough to appeal to the “centre”. A women who is coloured or of colour (or whatever the correct term is in now-a-days) strong on crime enough to piss the extreme left off a bit and stem some criticism from the right. I don’t follow US politics that closely but I think Biden has chosen exceptionally well.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/912 "2020-08-12T17:15:38Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> It would be racist if their thinking was “I’ll vote for the Indian-American because Indian people are superior”. It wouldn’t be racist if their thinking was “I’ll vote for the Indian-American because her victory will help change perspectives about Indian people and lead to more opportunities and inspiration for Indian people in the future”
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> Whether or not that’s a great metric for voting for someone can be debated, but it isn’t racist.

Exactly. People like to folks who look like them or from their region get top political spots. Especially if it’s from a group or region that historically hasn’t had those opportunities. We talk all the time about VP picks helping bolster votes in their home state - is that because we think people in that state are bigoted towards folks in other states? Of course not. It’s because people like seeing someone like them finally get ahead.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/913 "2020-08-12T17:20:16Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> I’m guessing you think that’s funny, but it’s 4th grade racist bullshit.

No, it’s a classic pro wrestling video that’s been around forever, made somewhat more poignant because James “Sugar Bear” Harris, who wrestled as “Kamala” among other gimmicks, died recently. I was a fan, and actually met him in person. He had a T-Shirt made that said something like “Kamala for President 2020”. Given the way he felt about Vince McMahon and the WWE, I’m pretty sure he’d be on the Biden/Harris team.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/914 "2020-08-12T17:22:29Z")

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It’s childish, silly and pretty much a predictor of the kind of nuanced political thinking that we’ve come to expect of the right wing.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/915 "2020-08-12T17:36:07Z")

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Give me a fucking break. It’s funny. A 6’9", 385 pound pro wrestler with the same name as Biden’s running mate.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/916 "2020-08-12T17:45:46Z")

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As has been discussed rather extensively in the Stand-up thread, humor is subjective, and not everyone finds the same things funny.

For instance, I would have found it amusing if you had used this [Kamala](https://www.childrensmercy.org/profiles/kamala-m-landshut/). But I would understand why some others wouldn’t.

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**Author:** ![Dictionary](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Dictionary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dictionary)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/917 "2020-08-12T17:46:18Z")

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Get over yourself. You’ve already earned the max virtue points for the day, maybe you can trade some in to the SJW bank.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/918 "2020-08-12T17:48:31Z")

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> [@urbanredneck2](#):
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> I read that Harris cannot actually be president because her parents were not born here. Is this true?

In addition to what everyone else has said: Kamala Harris was one of the Democratic Presidential candidates, way back when there were many of them. If she were ineligible to be POTUS, surely someone would have pointed it out back then, rather than letting her participate in those Democratic Primary debates.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/919 "2020-08-12T17:56:34Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Give me a fucking break. It’s funny. A 6’9", 385 pound pro wrestler with the same name as Biden’s running mate.

Given the grotesque racial stereotyping (even if it was promoting the wrestler himself) I think it was in very poor taste in this forum and in this thread. The post has been hidden by community flags, but I have edited out the video in question.

Colibri

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/920 "2020-08-12T18:01:18Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Given the grotesque racial stereotyping (even if it was promoting the wrestler himself) I think it was in very poor taste in this forum and in this thread. The post has been hidden by community flags, but I have edited out the video in question.
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> Colibri

Please respond to the ATMB thread on point.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/921 "2020-08-12T18:42:10Z")

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> [@Dictionary](#):
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> Get over yourself. You’ve already earned the max virtue points for the day, maybe you can trade some in to the SJW bank.

Welcome to our 6 day old poster, who seems to be quite happy to jump into adult conversations with insults.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-choice-for-vice-presidential-candidate/851505/922 "2020-08-12T18:55:04Z")

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Yep. He has drunk the OANN koolaid and reposts on FB all the worst drivel. Covid is a hoax, need to re-open, Biden is a pedo, etc, etc.

Total asshole.

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