# Biden's Running Mate Prediction Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 14, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482 "2020-03-14T15:59:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/61 "2020-03-16T03:19:48Z")

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I’ll admit to not knowing much yet about Klobuchar, but something about the way Mayor Pete was able to frazzle her so badly during their last debate is a little bit unsettling to me.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/62 "2020-03-16T03:38:20Z")

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> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#):
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> I’ll admit to not knowing much yet about Klobuchar, but something about the way Mayor Pete was able to frazzle her so badly during their last debate is a little bit unsettling to me.

It’s personal. She can’t stand Buttigieg. She’ll be fine as long as she doesn’t have to be around him.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/63 "2020-03-16T05:52:01Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> I’m going with Amy Klobachar. Midwestern, moderate, likable, re-elected to the Senate twice, and from a state with Democratic governor who gets to pick a replacement, critical to keep control of the Senate. And Jill Biden likes her.
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> Stacey Abrams doesn’t have the qualifications for President. Kamala Harris has too much baggage. Tammy Baldwin also has baggage, even in 2020. Elizabeth Warren would be great, but we can’t have two 70+ year olds. The rest of the names are unknown. The best of the pack is Gretchen Whitmer. And it’s true that polls have Biden leading Trump by a safer margin in Minnesota. Plus she doesn’t affect the Senate.
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> Even so, from public statements of how much they like each other and how important her endorsement was, I’m sticking with Klobachar.

There was something about the apparent chemistry between them the night they appeared together at the rally in Texas where Klobuchar endorsed Biden that made me see what a strong ticket they would be.

For those who think it needs to be Abrams or Harris to secure African American voters - Biden already has that demographic locked up. He needs someone from the upper Midwest/Rust Belt to secure MN, WI, MI and PA. Klobuchar will help with that.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/64 "2020-03-16T06:28:56Z")

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Surprised no one has mentioned Michelle Lujan Grisham. Governor of New Mexico, so she’s got executive experience to bring to bear if she has to step into the job right away. Former member of the U.S. House, so she’s got experience with DC and Congress. She’s a woman, obviously (no men need apply, per Joe at tonight’s debate), and a Latina to boot. That checks a lot of boxes!

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/65 "2020-03-16T10:56:16Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Surprised no one has mentioned Michelle Lujan Grisham. Governor of New Mexico, so she’s got executive experience to bring to bear if she has to step into the job right away. Former member of the U.S. House, so she’s got experience with DC and Congress. She’s a woman, obviously (no men need apply, per Joe at tonight’s debate), and a Latina to boot. That checks a lot of boxes!

Never heard of her until now, but _me gusta._

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/66 "2020-03-16T11:02:39Z")

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Interesting how Lujan Grisham is “Hispanic” in much the same way that Obama is “Black/African American.” In both cases, their heritage experience is not the one we typically associate with those categories. Lujan Grisham is from one of those New Mexico Spanish families that was there a century before the US even existed.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/67 "2020-03-16T16:03:34Z")

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Duplicate 504.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/68 "2020-03-16T16:04:49Z")

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I’ve said Klobuchar for months, and I see no reason to change that prediction. I’ll be amazed if it’s someone else.

I suspect he has Harris in mind for that SCOTUS seat, although I’m sure there are many other equally qualified black women who could have it.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/69 "2020-03-16T16:14:18Z")

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I’m a Michigan resident and I personally like Whitmer. The Republican Michigan legislature is refusing to help her find a way to improve the roads, since doing so requires more revenue and they basically have a “thou shalt not tax” attitude. I don’t know if she would bring much to the ticket. I think Harris would be a stronger choice, she’d chew Pence alive during her debate and spit out the bones and hair. I’d be cool with Klobuchar. I think Warren would scare too many of the more moderate voters.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/70 "2020-03-16T16:48:52Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I’m a Michigan resident and I personally like Whitmer. The Republican Michigan legislature is refusing to help her find a way to improve the roads, since doing so requires more revenue and they basically have a “thou shalt not tax” attitude. I don’t know if she would bring much to the ticket. I think Harris would be a stronger choice, she’d chew Pence alive during her debate and spit out the bones and hair. I’d be cool with Klobuchar. I think Warren would scare too many of the more moderate voters.

I came into this thread knowing I’d say Whitmer.

Woman  
Won office several times in Michigan  
Current governor  
Will be replaced by another Democrat - a black one - so no worries there  
48 years old

She checks a lot of boxes Joe could use. And Michigan is an epic-level swing state. We need it badly and she knows how to deliver it.

For the others? Klobuchar and Harris would be great cabinet level appointees. Make Julian Castro Secretary of DHS and tell him to clean up ICE and CBP. That’ll get people moving. Mayor Pete for SecState. He’s wonky, good with languages and well-respected for his knowledge.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/71 "2020-03-16T16:54:42Z")

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I just heard Whitmer on live television say that she would do everything she could to support Biden, but it would not be her.

I had the impression she was making it clear she has no interest in the position, not that she didn’t expect to be considered/asked.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/72 "2020-03-16T16:54:55Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> I’ve said Klobuchar for months, and I see no reason to change that prediction. I’ll be amazed if it’s someone else.
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> I suspect he has Harris in mind for that SCOTUS seat, although I’m sure there are many other equally qualified black women who could have it.

Klobachar was always my first pick, but there was a small possibility that Biden would go with Julian Castro to energize Hispanic voters. That’s gone now.

There is zero chance he will go with someone not already nationally known and vetted. The odds of a Biden health crisis are too high.

For most practical purposes the choice of vice president affects the ticket less than statistical noise. Whether it matters even in a very close election is debatable. But when the stakes are this high why take chances?

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/73 "2020-03-16T16:56:25Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> For the others? Klobuchar and Harris would be great cabinet level appointees. Make Julian Castro Secretary of DHS and tell him to clean up ICE and CBP. That’ll get people moving. Mayor Pete for SecState. He’s wonky, good with languages and well-respected for his knowledge.

I like these choices. Castro at DHS is a genius move. Harris for AG maybe.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/74 "2020-03-16T16:57:05Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> I came into this thread knowing I’d say Whitmer.
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> Woman  
> Won office several times in Michigan  
> Current governor  
> Will be replaced by another Democrat - a black one - so no worries there  
> 48 years old
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> She checks a lot of boxes Joe could use. And Michigan is an epic-level swing state. We need it badly and she knows how to deliver it.
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> For the others? Klobuchar and Harris would be great cabinet level appointees. Make Julian Castro Secretary of DHS and tell him to clean up ICE and CBP. That’ll get people moving. Mayor Pete for SecState. He’s wonky, good with languages and well-respected for his knowledge.

I can’t argue with any of that. I still think Harris would be a stronger asset on the campaign trail, but I also have her as my first choice for AG. Totally on board with Castro at DHS. I’d find a cabinet spot for Buttigieg, but I’m not sure about SOS. I’d see if Kerry would like to do it again and let him have a go at patching things up with Iran.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/75 "2020-03-16T17:05:14Z")

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You can’t argue with Mayor Pete becoming Sec State? Sweet jesus, guys. You realize there’s shitloads of intelligent qualified people who have not run for president, right?

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/76 "2020-03-16T17:08:25Z")

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How about the gay, black, lady mayor of Chicago?

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/77 "2020-03-16T17:12:36Z")

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IIWB (if I were Biden), I’d ask Kerry to come back and do a couple of years as SoS to mop up the mess, appoint mayor Pete to UN ambassador to give him some global experience, then move him up to SoS when Kerry retires.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/78 "2020-03-16T17:55:48Z")

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It’s Abrams or Harris. I doubt there is anyone else under serious consideration.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/79 "2020-03-16T18:14:33Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> It’s Abrams or Harris. I doubt there is anyone else under serious consideration.

Ridiculous. I am quite sure his list is bigger than the internet political junkie fan list.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/80 "2020-03-16T18:38:45Z")

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I’m sure his list is about 50 names deep. Hence the word “serious” in that sentence.

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