# Biden's Running Mate Prediction Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 14, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482 "2020-03-14T15:59:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/81 "2020-03-16T18:40:48Z")

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Maybe he’s borrowing Romney’s binders full of women.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/82 "2020-03-16T18:45:27Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> You can’t argue with Mayor Pete becoming Sec State? Sweet jesus, guys. You realize there’s shitloads of intelligent qualified people who have not run for president, right?

> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Ridiculous. I am quite sure his list is bigger than the internet political junkie fan list.

I know that running around telling everyone they’re wrong is kind of your jam, but if you have and suggestions or predictions to offer, they are also welcome in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/83 "2020-03-16T18:46:31Z")

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Since I’ve stated on more than one occasion that I’m pretty sure it will be Klobuchar, I’m sticking with that. This from the guy who predicted Biden had no chance and would fade quickly, right after he announced, based on previous performance. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/84 "2020-03-16T18:49:39Z")

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I’m really hoping it’s not Klobuchar, and it’s not b/c I don’t like her, but that would be akin to Hillary selecting Tim Kaine all over again. Another boring-as-hell white senator from a swing state.

As much as I think that Abrams has potential upside, there’s potential downside as well. At this point, she is still a political novice. I don’t think she’s earned her stripes just yet, although in some ways that would be an asset and not a liability, especially in these times.

I’m kinda hoping it’s either Harris or some other person of color (NM’s governor for instance). I think Biden already has the white working class rust belt vote. What he needs is to bring in more young voters and he needs to inspire Black and Latino voters to actually go to the polls. Klobuchar doesn’t do it. Abrams just might. Harris might, but she has baggage.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/85 "2020-03-16T19:46:29Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> I know that running around telling everyone they’re wrong is kind of your jam, but if you have and suggestions or predictions to offer, they are also welcome in this thread.

I’m not running around telling everyone they’re wrong. There have been a bunch of interesting suggestions from the different corners of the country, like the NM governor. But that is just it: Biden has a breadth of knowledge and advice from the party that it is really silly to limit choices to the recent shiny stars that political junkies are fascinated with. It’s like the old joke about the guy looking for his keys near the lamppost because he’ll never find them in the dark alley where he dropped them.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/86 "2020-03-16T20:00:27Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I’m not running around telling everyone they’re wrong. There have been a bunch of interesting suggestions from the different corners of the country, like the NM governor. But that is just it: Biden has a breadth of knowledge and advice from the party that it is really silly to limit choices to the recent shiny stars that political junkies are fascinated with. It’s like the old joke about the guy looking for his keys near the lamppost because he’ll never find them in the dark alley where he dropped them.

So, no suggestions of your own then, nor input beyond telling everyone they’re [del]wrong[/del] silly?

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/87 "2020-03-16T20:19:35Z")

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Again, I’m not telling everyone they’re silly. I think it’s silly to focus on Abrams. I think it’s silly that every 2020 candidate is getting a cabinet appointment. I honestly don’t know enough experienced “not always making national news but solid party favorites” to make guesses. Like I said, I am finding the suggestions from the more hidden corners quite interesting.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/88 "2020-03-16T20:34:46Z")

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Really, I don’t think his statement that it’s going to be a woman really changes the landscape much. As it happens, right now the Democratic bench is mostly women, and most of the potential choices folks were talking about anyway are women.

I feel like Klobuchar is likely, but I hope it’s not her. We’ve already got a boring guy on the top of the ticket, and while boring might be a refreshing change of pace from Trump, it doesn’t have a great track record of winning elections.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/89 "2020-03-16T20:35:01Z")

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Really, I don’t think his statement that it’s going to be a woman really changes the landscape much. As it happens, right now the Democratic bench is mostly women, and most of the potential choices folks were talking about anyway are women.

I feel like Klobuchar is likely, but I hope it’s not her. We’ve already got a boring guy on the top of the ticket, and while boring might be a refreshing change of pace from Trump, it doesn’t have a great track record of winning elections.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/90 "2020-03-16T20:38:31Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Sweet jesus, guys. You realize there’s shitloads of intelligent qualified people who have not run for president, right?

> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Ridiculous. I am quite sure his list is bigger than the internet political junkie fan list.

> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I honestly don’t know enough experienced “not always making national news but solid party favorites” to make guesses. Like I said, I am finding the suggestions from the more hidden corners quite interesting.

More posts like the third and fewer like the first two would probably get you farther then.

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**Author:** ![The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_wind_of_my_soul)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/91 "2020-03-16T20:42:25Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> I’m sticking with my prediction of Amy Klobuchar. I’m still of the opinion that he promised her the position when she dropped out after the South Carolina primary.

I feel like often, when people take guesses at the VP pick, people guess a lot of other candidates from the same election cycle, just because they’re familiar with the names, and then the VP pick is someone who didn’t even run for president. (Not all the time, obviously.)

But in this particular instance, I see your point. Klobuchar didn’t seem like she had any realistic shot at winning, and neither did Buttigieg, but their chances seemed higher going into Super Tuesday than they had at any point prior. Both Buttigieg and Klobuchar had over-performed expectations in early states, and even though they hadn’t performed too well in NV or SC, I still thought it was a little odd for them to drop out when they did. It would certainly make sense that Biden would have offered something enticing to convince them to drop out. When you couple that with (a) the fact that Biden promised to pick a woman VP, and (b) Klobuchar’s Freudian slip during her speech where she endorses Biden, that pairing certainly sounds plausible to me. I’d certainly expect to see her as the running mate sooner than I’d expect any of the other females who ran this time around.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/92 "2020-03-16T22:30:29Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> It’s Abrams or Harris. I doubt there is anyone else under serious consideration.

Not gonna be Harris. CA is Deep Blue.

And Harris got in a nasty jab at Biden.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/93 "2020-03-16T23:01:18Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Not gonna be Harris. CA is Deep Blue.
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> And Harris got in a nasty jab at Biden.

And she has since endorsed him.

You have a point about Biden not needing help in California, but the jab doesn’t mean anything. Politicians generally don’t hold grudges about trash talk in the primaries, and it’s easy to be forgiving when you’ve won. Reagan picked Bush despite the “voodoo economics” snark.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/94 "2020-03-16T23:58:19Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Not gonna be Harris. CA is Deep Blue.
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> And Harris got in a nasty jab at Biden.

The small plus it gives in the VP candidate’s home state is not the only reason to pick a running mate, even though it can be an important one in a very critical state.

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**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/95 "2020-03-17T01:08:24Z")

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I just don’t see the logic in Abrams getting chosen. Her only elected office is being the minority party in the Georgia state legislature. She ran an impressive campaign for Governor but ultimately lost. I never believed a small town mayor was ready to become president and I don’t believe she’s ready to be vice president.

When the guy at the top of the ticket is going to be 78 years old on inauguration day, the VP being ready to step up is a marker that is greater than ever before. Go back to 2008 for a moment:

> [@](#):
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> “Let me tell you the reason I picked Joe Biden. Number one, he can step in and become president. And I don’t think anybody has any doubt about that,”

Obama was 47 years old to Biden’s 66 but he made the point that there is always a possibility, no matter how improbable, that the VP has to step in and become president.

That possibility is much higher now because as stated, Biden is going to be 78 years old on the day he would be sworn in.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/96 "2020-03-17T04:20:36Z")

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Reuters has an [article](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden-runningmate-factbo-idUSKBN2133FB?taid=5e704dbae6e3ff00014009bc&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter) listing some potential Biden VP picks. It’s a short and pretty superficial article that doesn’t bring up any names we haven’t discussed here, except one: Florida Representative Val Demings.

> [@Reuters](#):
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> The African-American congresswoman from Florida’s national profile rose earlier this year when she was tapped as one of the managers, effectively prosecutors, in the House impeachment proceedings against Trump.
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> Demings, 63, was first elected to office in 2016. Before going to Washington, she was a police officer.

I don’t know. Being an impeachment manager is great. But her only experience in any elected office is as a Representative since January 2017. That’s awful thin for the person one 78-year-old heartbeat away from running the country.

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/97 "2020-03-17T04:53:04Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> Reuters has an [article](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden-runningmate-factbo-idUSKBN2133FB?taid=5e704dbae6e3ff00014009bc&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter) listing some potential Biden VP picks. It’s a short and pretty superficial article that doesn’t bring up any names we haven’t discussed here, except one: Florida Representative Val Demings…

Yeah, out of that article I liked Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer (48). Michigan is a critical state.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/98 "2020-03-17T05:46:23Z")

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I think Biden made a mistake by announcing it this way. By saying he was going to pick “a woman” he’s feeding into the accusation of identity politics that Republicans love to beat the drum for. He should have named a particular individual and then said she was chosen because she was the best person for the job.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/99 "2020-03-17T07:20:29Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I think Biden made a mistake by announcing it this way. By saying he was going to pick “a woman” he’s feeding into the accusation of identity politics that Republicans love to beat the drum for. He should have named a particular individual and then said she was chosen because she was the best person for the job.

I kind of agree with this. Wouldn’t it be better to just say, “I’d strongly consider picking a woman for VP if I get the nom”? I mean, I figured a female VP would be the pick for the Dems anyway, but it’s like giving the GOP a sneak peak in the playbook.

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bidens-running-mate-prediction-thread/849482/100 "2020-03-17T09:50:46Z")

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Biden announced this during the debate to make sure the headlines coming out of the debate were “Biden pledges female VP”, just in case he royally sucked during the debate itself. He didn’t do terribly, but IMO he’s still not a very sharp debater, and his team recognized this and planned it in advance.

I think it was a brilliant move. He can still say “I chose her because she was the absolute best person for the job”. And it’s beyond time for a woman to be a VP (and prez, for that matter).

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