# Big Bang 11/3--The Isolation Permutation **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 3, 2011, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747 "2011-11-03T15:12:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747/1 "2011-11-03T15:12:46Z")
When it is revealed that Penny and Bernadette went wedding dress shopping without her, Amy becomes heartbroken. It’s chick time! ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747/2 "2011-11-04T03:34:38Z")
Amy finally gets to second base! ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747/3 "2011-11-04T03:42:24Z")
AFF sure keeps seeming she could go for either gender and gets hornier by the episode. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747/4 "2011-11-04T03:56:27Z")
Frankly, I thought that was a terrible episode. Beat us over the head with Amy’s bi-curiosity, in an extraordinarily boring and offensive way, why don’t you? I was not impressed. ---
**Author:** ![Lare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/53a042/32.png) [@Lare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lare)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747/5 "2011-11-04T04:03:37Z")
Overall I liked the episode while hoping that they dial AFF back a little. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747/6 "2011-11-04T04:07:54Z")
Yeah, they’re just moving on to outright sexual harassment of Penny by Amy. I know it might have hampered the funny but the “we’re sorry” should have been accompanied by the “here’s why we did it, but we’re still sorry since we should have just talked to you to begin with.” ---
**Author:** ![HardlySanguine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HardlySanguine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HardlySanguine)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747/7 "2011-11-04T05:22:12Z")
Are they not allowed to say ‘batshit’ on the air? Or were the writers just being silly / trying to start a new trend? ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747/8 "2011-11-04T05:24:57Z")
They’ve been using “batcrap crazy” for a while. I think Penny was the first to use it in any earlier season, in reference to Sheldon. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747/9 "2011-11-04T13:07:44Z")
I thought it was not as good as usual. When Sheldon is socially isolated, we can laugh, because Sheldon really truly doesn’t care; he’s satisfied with himself as he is. Amy, on the other hand, is just desperately lonely, and I don’t find that particularly funny, even though I laughed at the time at her ways of expressing it. I don’t think Amy is so much bi-curious as that she has a serious girl-crush on Penny. By which I mean, she’d like to _be_ Penny; she’s enthralled by her to the point where she’d be willing to sleep with her just for the joy of being chosen by Penny for anything, and the pleasure of being able to be with her. I get it. This week I watched a TV program where there was a female guest star that I just found utterly and completely appealing. I was fascinated by her. I’m a straight female, and frankly not very interested in sex with anyone, let alone another woman, but if this woman had suddenly appeared at my door and wanted sex, I’d have definitely considered it. She was so pretty, and so charming, that I could definitely see myself getting swept away. But, really, if I could have my druthers, I’d simply _be_ her. And I am neither lonely nor lacking in social skills the way AFF is. So, yes, the show certainly had a lot of humor, but the humor was more cruel than usual. I found Amy to be very sad. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747/10 "2011-11-04T14:34:53Z")
I laughed my ass off throughout the episode, but I wish they’d dial AFF back, too. Occasional, SMALL glimpses of her having a girl-crush on Penny was funny; this level of drooling is not. Sheldon being forced to be a boyfriend (and the dickering between him and Amy) was hysterical, too. But, as we learned recently, he does have attractive and fully functional genitals. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747/11 "2011-11-04T14:36:19Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Sheldon being forced to be a boyfriend (and the **dickering** between him and Amy) was hysterical, too. Especially apt choice of words there. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747/12 "2011-11-04T14:37:43Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Especially apt choice of words there. 😛 Thank you - I considered it as I typed it, and realized it was AWESOME! ---
**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747/13 "2011-11-04T14:46:31Z")
Raj sure is a fifth wheel these days since everybody else has a girlfriend who is featured as a main character now. If they get rid of him they can rename the show “Friends - Nerd Edition.” ---
**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747/14 "2011-11-04T15:01:36Z")
Those were some of the most hideous bridesmaids/bridal gowns I’ve ever seen, and I watch “Say Yes to the Dress” on a regular basis. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747/15 "2011-11-04T15:19:18Z")
> [@HardlySanguine](#): > > Are they not allowed to say ‘batshit’ on the air? Or were the writers just being silly / trying to start a new trend? They’re sure as shit not gonna say “shit” at 8pm on broadcast. You gotta save those shenanigans for cable. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747/16 "2011-11-04T16:17:48Z")
Am I the only one who missed the days when it was just the boys and Penny? Bernadette isn’t bad in small helpings, but I’ve never warmed to AFF; they seem to try way to hard too make the character funny and eccentric. Some of Mayim Bialik’s acting is painful to watch. mmm ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747/17 "2011-11-04T16:20:08Z")
To each their own. I prefer AFF to Bernadette. ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747/18 "2011-11-04T16:29:10Z")
> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > Am I the only one who missed the days when it was just the boys and Penny? Bernadette isn’t bad in small helpings, but I’ve never warmed to AFF; they seem to try way to hard too make the character funny and eccentric. Some of Mayim Bialik’s acting is painful to watch. > > mmm agreed. AFF’s idiosyncrasies are not as endearing as sheldon’s. it comes across as forced. it’s probably because sheldon’s rules are consistent and makes sense, whereas amy’s tendencies basically just mirror sheldon’s until it’s convenient for a joke - mostly when her (bi)sexuality shines through. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747/19 "2011-11-04T17:04:47Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I laughed my ass off throughout the episode, but I wish they’d dial AFF back, too. Occasional, SMALL glimpses of her having a girl-crush on Penny was funny; this level of drooling is not. > > Sheldon being forced to be a boyfriend (and the dickering between him and Amy) was hysterical, too. But, as we learned recently, he does have attractive and fully functional genitals. 😃 Amy is very funny, but a “dialing back” of her attraction to Penny would be very appropriate, I think. They are overdoing it! ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747/20 "2011-11-04T18:11:43Z")
Wow…again in the minority on a BBT episode…I LOVED it. I thought it was one of the funniest ones in the whole series. I love love love AFF and her character to death so that’s probably a reason for it. I think everything she says is just Gold. I understand wanting to dial back her lesibanocity towards Penny, but 20 internet points to **Oy!** for explaining it the way she did, I think she’s right. I also loved how Howard used the “Raj can’t talk in front of girls” thing against him by lying about what Raj whispered…funny funny stuff. edit about my AFF love: I think she is what Sheldon’s character _should_ be (and maybe even was intended to be): Really smart, very socially awkward, but not a 100% in-my-own-world complete and total waste of common sense. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-11-3-the-isolation-permutation/601747.md?page=2)