# Big Bang 9/21 - well that sucked! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 22, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078 "2009-09-22T13:49:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078/21 "2009-09-22T18:21:02Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Oh, wait, I know this. After hoc, therefor something else… hoc. “after it, therefore because of it”. Fact B happened after fact A, therefore B must be a consequence of A. See : violent video games cause shooting sprees ! ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078/22 "2009-09-22T19:31:56Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > I was _really_ hoping to see more of the boys at the North Pole. The short bit at the end of last season was pretty funny, and it seems there would have been lots of material to be found in that situation. I liked the way they did it this episode. I can see them referring to things that happened “off-screen” for the rest of the season. Some things are better when left to your wild imagination. Like the night the heater went out. ---
**Author:** ![deedeeknowit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@deedeeknowit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deedeeknowit)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078/23 "2009-09-22T20:28:46Z")
I got the feeling Penny went to Star Trek out of missing Leonard and caring about his interests. That and it was a hit movie. She was lonely without her buds so she went out for some entertainment. I thought it was neat how Penny tried to show Leonard he should be more in touch with how Sheldon was feeling and to be more compassionate with his friend. My rating for the most laughs on the show would go: Penny (her comic timing and lines have gotten better with each episode) Sheldon Wolowitz …the other two haven’t really made me laugh much. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078/24 "2009-09-22T21:43:20Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > “after it, therefore because of it”. Fact B happened after fact A, therefore B must be a consequence of A. See : violent video games cause shooting sprees ! Yeah, I know; just thought I’d throw out a _West Wing_ reference while I had the chance. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078/25 "2009-09-23T00:55:25Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > “after it, therefore because of it”. Fact B happened after fact A, therefore B must be a consequence of A. See : violent video games cause shooting sprees ! Yep, I had a _West Wing_ flashback at that one. I thought it was “if then, therefore, because” but I probably got that wrong. I liked Raj’s comment to Wolowitz…“I should have gone over there to tell her we were back.” “Yeah, because it’s first come first served.” And look, not all Texans are slightly racist homophobic creationists. Why does Hollywood always caricature the flyover country? ---
**Author:** ![Serenata67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/serenata67/32/10646_2.png) [@Serenata67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Serenata67)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078/26 "2009-09-23T02:13:17Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > … > > I liked that Penny remembered the Kitty song. Shoot, even _I_ remember the Kitty song. My fiancee thought it was funny and made me sing it to him when _he_ was sick. Yes, I voluntarily sang the Kitty Song. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078/27 "2009-09-23T13:10:28Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > The STAR TREK movie wasn’t just for Trekkies, it was a major event unto itself, so it’s not necessarily indicative of anything that Penny went. I hope they do an episode where the guys watch it once it’s on DVD though; I’m curious how they’d accept the new actors in such sacred roles. They could really milk it if Sheldon falls into a deep depression afterwards, and eventually reveals that he was fully prepared to loathe it, critique & mock it unmercifully. Instead, he liked it, and cannot bear the shame. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078/28 "2009-09-23T13:17:09Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > And look, not all Texans are slightly racist homophobic creationists. Why does Hollywood always caricature the flyover country? Because it’s Hollywood. I had a gut reaction against the line “She can take care of whatever Third-world demon’s running around inside you”, BUT then I recalled that I’ve known people in my Charismatic circles who might have thought that, if not said it. And for many Charismatics, there’s no insult implied in that. One can catch a demon as easily as one can catch a cold, and can just as easily cast it out (which you seldom can do with a cold.) She did have another great line “Oh, they knew why they hated you, Sheldon.” ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078/29 "2009-09-23T14:07:23Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > And look, not all Texans are slightly racist homophobic creationists. Yeah! Where do they get off with _slightly_? (I keed. I keed.) ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078/30 "2009-09-23T17:05:39Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > I had a gut reaction against the line “She can take care of whatever Third-world demon’s running around inside you”, BUT then I recalled that I’ve known people in my Charismatic circles who might have thought that, if not said it. And for many Charismatics, there’s no insult implied in that. Agreed, in fact I think it’s a way of saying “\*You \*are a wonderful and perfect child of God,” meaning, therefore that anything imperfect which comes out of you must be coming from a demon. I found it creepy that he couldn’t talk to her. I thought Moms would be in a different category than women he found attractive. It had a yucky “Stacy’s Mom” feel to it. . . ---
**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078/31 "2009-09-23T17:44:25Z")
It still amazes me how people see things so differently. It’s a good thing! But it’s still amazing to me, as a nit picker even, how little things still annoy us. I thought this was a great episode, start to finish. Instead of having anything linger, they got it over with. The Antarctic trip, the sex, everything. It’s not a reset, as they have shown to learn from previous episodes and bring things up, but it gets them back to their lives. That seems normal and right to me. And the funny lines! The entire scene with the mother was awesome! “From what? Toy Story?” Great episode! Loved it all! vislor ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078/32 "2009-09-23T19:18:16Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Yeah! Where do they get off with _slightly_? > (I keed. I keed.) _glowers at **silenus** , crosses his name off the next Klingon Boggle Invitational_ ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078/33 "2009-09-23T19:22:51Z")
DaHjaj ghaH QaQ jaj Daq Hegh! ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078/34 "2009-09-23T19:55:57Z")
I think you just called me a pink cheese with wings. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078/35 "2009-09-23T21:04:54Z")
I wouldn’t think Klingon would have a word for “pink”. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078/36 "2009-09-23T21:18:11Z")
Of course they would…as we saw in ST:VI, Klingon blood is pink. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078/37 "2009-09-24T00:26:22Z")
So, we got a nod to ComiCon…surely there must be a Movie Night with Star Trek: Reboot, complete with costumes and props? ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078/38 "2009-09-24T11:35:30Z")
I liked it. Even mediocre BBT is still great television. > [@Khadaji](#): > > I totally agree that the man with the speech impediment is annoying. He seems to have the same impediment in the Geico commercial. > [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Having it just be awkward “we were friends and now we did it” has much more room for humor. Don’t count your chickens til next week… > [@silenus](#): > > the night the heater went out. I always wonder where this version of the meme came from. Yes huddling together for warmth can be necessary and embarrassing, but how does it help to huddle _naked_? Huddling together clothed is much more warmth producing. The only time it makes sense to get naked first other than as foreplay is if you’ve fallen in ice water and need to get out of wet clothes. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078/39 "2009-09-24T11:40:42Z")
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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078/40 "2009-09-25T19:10:46Z")
It felt like Penny’s and Leonard’s sex- a lot of anticipation but after it was done, no big deal. There were some moments, but I expected better writing. Surely there are better makeup artists than the guys that came up with those obviously fake beards. The guy that talks like Elmer Fudd isn’t funny at all, just annoying. And it looks like the writers want to rid themselves of the Penny-Leonard couple thing as quickly as possible. I found it very disappointing and a rare Monday where How I Met Your Mother was the better of the two shows. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-9-21-well-that-sucked/511078.md?page=3)