# Big Bang Theory 1/12--The Shiny Trinket Maneuver

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 12, 2012, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314 "2012-01-12T17:46:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314/21 "2012-01-13T15:01:03Z")

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OK, OK. Has eveybody missed the all-important fact that Amy kissed Sheldon, and he didn’t immediately have a screaming cootie fit? I mean, yes, he wasn’t thrilled by it, but his response was surprisingly un-Sheldonian.

We’ve been here before with the Howard/Bernadette money dynamic. Remember “I just want my Honey to have nice things?” I don’t recall them really resolving that? They just sort of fell apart and then fell back together again.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314/22 "2012-01-13T15:26:12Z")

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> [@HeyHomie](#):
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> Did anyone recognize the actor who played the jewelry salesman? He seems familiar…
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> Mrs. Homie and I at first thought he might be the same guy who played the snooty Maitre 'D in _Ferris Bueller’s Day Off_, but it isn’t him (according to IMDB, which doesn’t yet have the full cast of last night’s episode up).

It was him. A good place to check cast listings immediately after broadcast is [TV.com](http://www.tv.com/shows/the-big-bang-theory/the-shiny-trinket-maneuver-1741477/cast/).

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**Author:** ![Lanzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Lanzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lanzy)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314/23 "2012-01-13T16:02:19Z")

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I have a little problem with Howard not making more money than everyone else. He has a MS in Computer Science from MIT. I usually make more than all the Phd’s in the room.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314/24 "2012-01-13T16:09:51Z")

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> [@FlightlessBird](#):
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> This!  
> Had to watch it twice. Something about the way she bellowed “Tee-AAAW-rah”

I watched the whole thing twice as well. It was pretty funny and very Amy.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314/25 "2012-01-13T16:12:10Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> It was him. A good place to check cast listings immediately after broadcast is [TV.com](http://www.tv.com/shows/the-big-bang-theory/the-shiny-trinket-maneuver-1741477/cast/).

It’s not listed on IMDB (yet), but he is listed as a writer on [Blossom](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0773536/).

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314/26 "2012-01-13T16:18:33Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> OK, OK. Has eveybody missed the all-important fact that Amy kissed Sheldon, and he didn’t immediately have a screaming cootie fit? I mean, yes, he wasn’t thrilled by it, but his response was surprisingly un-Sheldonian.

they are officially dating now, it must be in the agreement the circumstances under which it can happen. if it isn’t in the agreement then it will get brought up in the future as either a addendum or a major complaint.

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314/27 "2012-01-13T16:32:31Z")

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> [@Monkey\_Chews](#):
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> Bernadette doing the snake eyes to the little kid was great too.

I thought that whole bit with Bernadette and no kids was hilarious. Bernadette clearly doesn’t like kids.

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314/28 "2012-01-13T16:34:51Z")

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> [@Polerius](#):
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> “Amy feels disappointed when Sheldon doesn’t sincerely congratulate her on her new found accomplishment”. Really? Amy didn’t know that Sheldon was a complete ignoramus regarding social matters before they were a couple? She knew what she was getting into, so why would this be surprising enough to upset her?

That’s just it, now they are a couple (they even have a dating agreement) so she probably thought he may be changing a bit as they’ve actually kissed and danced and stuff.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314/29 "2012-01-13T16:38:01Z")

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> [@MikeG](#):
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> great! I just discovered this series recently and have had a good time catching up. Best use of cameos I can think of.

I’m in the same boat. I’m finding that it’s a great series.

I’m going to watch the reruns and the new eps…

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314/30 "2012-01-13T16:41:51Z")

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> [@johnpost](#):
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> they are officially dating now, it must be in the agreement the circumstances under which it can happen. if it isn’t in the agreement then it will get brought up in the future as either a addendum or a major complaint.

I’m fairly well certain that I recall the agreement saying something along the lines of “the current level of physical intimacy - to wit: None - shall remain in force.”

or something. . . 😛

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314/31 "2012-01-13T16:58:32Z")

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> [@Lare](#):
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> I think Bernadette is supposed to be normal, too.

I’m not so sure about that. She is dating Howard after all.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314/32 "2012-01-13T17:12:55Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> I’m not so sure about that. She is dating Howard after all.

Yeah, the more we learn about Bernadette, the less “normal” she seems. But I like that. She can hold her own with any of the cast.

I also like that they didn’t really resolve the Kid issue. The sit-commy thing to do would be for Bernadette to get to know one of the kids, who melts her heart and she changes her mind and blah blah blah… But instead she and Howard agreed on a half-hearted compromise that makes neither of them happy. This ensures that the subject will come up again, which makes for good comedic fodder. It also makes them a more relatable couple; real couples actually do struggle with this question, and it doesn’t get resolved in 22 minutes.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314/33 "2012-01-13T17:41:21Z")

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Bernadette and Howard have issues which could fall either way, this may last a long time for effect.

kids, who wears the pants, mom, the only one he’s had serous or long term.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314/34 "2012-01-13T17:48:59Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> OK, OK. Has eveybody missed the all-important fact that Amy kissed Sheldon, and he didn’t immediately have a screaming cootie fit? I mean, yes, he wasn’t thrilled by it, but his response was surprisingly un-Sheldonian.

> [@johnpost](#):
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> they are officially dating now, it must be in the agreement the circumstances under which it can happen. if it isn’t in the agreement then it will get brought up in the future as either a addendum or a major complaint.

> [@TruCelt](#):
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> I’m fairly well certain that I recall the agreement saying something along the lines of “the current level of physical intimacy - to wit: None - shall remain in force.”
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> or something. . . 😛

there is likely somewhere where some nerd/fan/geek has transcribed all the agreements so far. and the violations of them and the resolutions.

also the equations from some of the episodes which are stated to be real and purposeful.

my fandom hasn’t reached a level to chase for that, yet.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314/35 "2012-01-13T18:01:24Z")

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I’m ok with sitcom characters changing, stasis is dull, but I think it’s getting increasing difficult for Jim Parsons not to break character when dealing with AFF.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314/36 "2012-01-13T23:06:02Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> Yeah, the more we learn about Bernadette, the less “normal” she seems. But I like that. She can hold her own with any of the cast.
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> I also like that they didn’t really resolve the Kid issue. The sit-commy thing to do would be for Bernadette to get to know one of the kids, who melts her heart and she changes her mind and blah blah blah… But instead she and Howard agreed on a half-hearted compromise that makes neither of them happy. This ensures that the subject will come up again, which makes for good comedic fodder. It also makes them a more relatable couple; real couples actually do struggle with this question, and it doesn’t get resolved in 22 minutes.

I agree totally. When Crista Miller left “The Drew Carey Show”, it was when Kate and Drew realized they differed on having kids.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314/37 "2012-01-13T23:49:08Z")

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> [@Lanzy](#):
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> I have a little problem with **Howard not making more money than everyone else.** He has a MS in Computer Science from MIT. I usually make more than all the Phd’s in the room.

They never said that. They said Howard doesn’t make as much as _Bernadette_. They’ve never, to my knowledge, directly compared Howard’s salary to Leonard’s or Sheldon’s.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314/38 "2012-01-14T01:27:30Z")

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> [@Lanzy](#):
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> I have a little problem with Howard not making more money than everyone else. He has a MS in Computer Science from MIT. I usually make more than all the Phd’s in the room.

But Howard works for the _university_. In academia, an MS doesn’t mean squat. (In industry, a PhD doesn’t mean squat.)

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314/39 "2012-01-14T01:51:59Z")

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> [@Lare](#):
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> I think Bernadette is supposed to be normal, too.

Not with that voice . . .

And not with her engagement to Howard . . .

And not with her getting along with Howard’s mother . . .

She only appears to be normal when compared with most of the other characters. Hell, even _ **I’d** _ seem normal, compared to them.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-1-12-the-shiny-trinket-maneuver/609314/40 "2012-01-14T14:44:36Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> It was him. A good place to check cast listings immediately after broadcast is [TV.com](http://www.tv.com/shows/the-big-bang-theory/the-shiny-trinket-maneuver-1741477/cast/).

According to IMDB he was also on several episodes of Blossom.

ETA: or maybe he wrote several episodes of Blossom?

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