# Big Bang Theory, February 6, 2014 -- "The Locomotion Manipulation"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 6, 2014, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684 "2014-02-06T19:21:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684/41 "2014-02-08T00:33:35Z")

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> [@Sauron](#):
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> Maybe I’m being whooshed, but Madame Curie died of radiation poisoning. Sounds pretty abusive.

in this thread that would be Bazinga!

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684/42 "2014-02-08T00:44:51Z")

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> [@Sauron](#):
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> … Madame Curie died of radiation poisoning…

Ya, but radiation didn’t do it on purpose, SHE was the one who kept at it.

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684/43 "2014-02-08T01:12:07Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> That’s what he started to do, but he enjoyed the kiss (he leaned in and put his hands on her butt). So he made the first tentative steps toward a physical relationship with her. Maybe by the season finale, they’ll be in bed together. (Still dressed, but in bed together.)

I expect they will have an incident where the two of them are forced to sleep in a double bed together (perhaps they get stranded in a motel room with only one bed) and then for Sheldon to decide he likes it and Amy decides to dump the asshole.

I’m pretty tired of AFF anyway. They have failed to develop her character very much. She is just a single dimensional joke, IMHO.

I’m also tired of Bernadette. Her shtick has just gotten stupid. Her angry voice has been way over-done. I’d like to see H&B get divorced and Howard take the vet away from Raj (who doesn’t really deserve a gf anyway) and we could have some shows with conflict between Raj & Howard.

I wouldn’t mind if they got rid of the Raj character. He’s never been much fun anyway.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684/44 "2014-02-08T01:32:00Z")

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> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#):
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> I’m pretty tired of…
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> I’m also tired of…
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> I wouldn’t mind if they got rid of…

Perhaps you should watch a different show.

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684/45 "2014-02-08T03:58:46Z")

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> [@standingwave](#):
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> Didn’t he once build a fighting robot and even a robot hand (that’s all he needed)?

As I remembered it, he “borrowed” the robot hand from JPL. And he was working on a sex robot. 😃

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684/46 "2014-02-08T15:22:00Z")

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I want to see more of the train guy.

“Did I tell you what happened when I worked at UPS?”

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**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684/47 "2014-02-08T16:14:58Z")

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I didn’t care for the fact they made him legitimately brain-damaged.  
Still, without that he was more amusing than most of them. Except for Bawwy, who deserves his own show.

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**Author:** ![Raskolnikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ac8455/32.png) [@Raskolnikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raskolnikov)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684/48 "2014-02-08T17:41:55Z")

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> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#):
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> I expect they will have an incident where the two of them are forced to sleep in a double bed together (perhaps they get stranded in a motel room with only one bed) and then for Sheldon to decide he likes it and Amy decides to dump the asshole.
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> I’m pretty tired of AFF anyway. They have failed to develop her character very much. She is just a single dimensional joke, IMHO.
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> I’m also tired of Bernadette. Her shtick has just gotten stupid. Her angry voice has been way over-done. I’d like to see H&B get divorced and Howard take the vet away from Raj (who doesn’t really deserve a gf anyway) and we could have some shows with conflict between Raj & Howard.
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> I wouldn’t mind if they got rid of the Raj character. He’s never been much fun anyway.

I agree on Bernadette, it seems now that most everything out of her mouth is condescending and angry. It wears on you at times.

There’s a bit too much drama with Bernadette and the constant AFF frustration with Sheldon and throw in the whole Penny dumping on Leonard and this sit-com has gotten somewhat serious. Plus here we are again with Raj and a putative girlfriend and wondering if it’ll run out and not develop, we’ve been here before with Raj.

that’s why to me this show has lost much of it’s humor, when was the last time Howard had a great one-liner? He was often the funniest character in seasons past and I just don’t recall him being memorable this year. It’s like he’s brow beat by marriage.

come to think of it, both Howard and Leonard are not treated well by their partners.

character development - the Achilles heal of sit-coms.

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684/49 "2014-02-08T17:59:19Z")

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where there’s Howard there is the frustrated female. been that way forever.

i think it OK how Bernie can do both the clever and frustrated. she has maybe the funniest lines/situations from the show.

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**Author:** ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684/50 "2014-02-08T18:16:55Z")

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> [@Raskolnikov](#):
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> It’s like he’s brow beat by marriage.  
> come to think of it, both Howard and Leonard are not treated well by their partners.  
> character development - the Achilles heal of sit-coms.

Aren’t most of the women in Chuck Lorre shows rather hateful? I think he has had problems with every female in his life, and has a strong misogynistic streak.

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**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684/51 "2014-02-08T18:40:01Z")

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Not every woman; just mothers.

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**Author:** ![Washoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecae2f/32.png) [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684/52 "2014-02-08T18:54:49Z")

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> [@Raskolnikov](#):
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> come to think of it, both Howard and Leonard are not treated well by their partners.

And they’re both involved with women who are unfathomably out of their respective leagues. _Especially_ Howard. That whip has a mighty long reach, son.

If Sheldon were a real person and became a member of this board, would he be banned?

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684/53 "2014-02-08T19:08:55Z")

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> [@Tapiotar](#):
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> Aren’t most of the women in Chuck Lorre shows rather hateful? I think he has had problems with every female in his life, and has a strong misogynistic streak.

Are the men any better; seems they’re all emotionally, intellectually, and/or socially stunted to some degree.

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684/54 "2014-02-08T19:29:25Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Perhaps you should watch a different show.

If it bothers you that people have largely negative opinions about certain shows, then perhaps you might consider posting in a different forum. Or, perhaps you might enjoy an activity where you don’t have to read anyone else’s opinions at all.

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**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684/55 "2014-02-08T19:37:17Z")

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> [@Charlie Wayne](#):
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> If it bothers you that people have largely negative opinions about certain shows, then perhaps you might consider posting in a different forum.

When people see unhappiness, they want to help. It’s an ingrained instinct. People want to solve everyone else’s problems.

You seemed to have a problem with BBT. But it is perhaps we who have the problem. Either way, carry on with your bad self!

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**Author:** ![Raskolnikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ac8455/32.png) [@Raskolnikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raskolnikov)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684/56 "2014-02-08T19:45:02Z")

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> [@Washoe](#):
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> And they’re both involved with women who are unfathomably out of their respective leagues. _Especially_ Howard. That whip has a mighty long reach, son.
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> If Sheldon were a real person and became a member of this board, would he be banned?

so that makes it o.k. to be treated like that?

I’m just saying after a certain point, on a sit-com no less, it becomes tiresome and predictable and not so funny.

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**Author:** ![Washoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecae2f/32.png) [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684/57 "2014-02-08T20:05:33Z")

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> [@Raskolnikov](#):
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> so that makes it o.k. to be treated like that?

It’s their decision to make, not ours.

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684/58 "2014-02-08T21:15:33Z")

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> [@Tapiotar](#):
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> Aren’t most of the women in Chuck Lorre shows rather hateful? I think he has had problems with every female in his life, and has a strong misogynistic streak.

My guess is that he had all the problems with women that he would ever need stemming from the time he worked with Roseanne.

I read a few items that suggested it would probably be easier to live through combat than it would working for Roseanne.

I can certainly understand why he would feel that way about women after working for Roseanne.

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**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684/59 "2014-02-08T21:38:37Z")

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Well, I loved the kiss, but then, I guess, I am a real sucker for a big surprise kiss. I wondered how many times they practiced that! I absolutely enjoyed it, but I know the writers have their work cut out for them. How are they going to make Sheldon feel real feelings and how is it going to be funny??

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-bang-theory-february-6-2014-the-locomotion-manipulation/680684/60 "2014-02-08T22:08:42Z")

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I am sorry to say that this was the second episode in a row that I didn’t care for very much.

What I didn’t care for were the sudden reversals that just seemed to happen because that’s the way the writers wanted. Bernadette is a hateful, demeaning shrew who denigrates her husband openly, and then suddenly they are kissing because it’s Valentine’s Day. Sheldon is an insufferable jerk, and then suddenly kisses Amy just because it moves the story arc forward. And Sheldon seems to know that he is being a selfish jerk, and doesn’t care. It’s one thing when he is clueless about romantic interactions, and another when he is aware of Amy’s feelings and then goes off and is selfish anyway.

The guy who had the box fall on his head was funny, and the parts with Leonard and Penny, and Raj and the vet were OK. But it is hard to laugh when Bernadette and Sheldon are being hateful bitches.

And again, an episode where I didn’t laugh out loud once. I know that’s a high standard, but the show used to hit it every week consistently.

The show needs a fresh schtick, and it can’t be “Sheldon and Amy have sex” unless it is a lot better written.

Regards,  
Shodan

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