# Big Brother 13 Season Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 8, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261 "2011-07-08T02:03:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261/181 "2011-08-11T18:11:50Z")
> [@CapnPitt](#): > > Disagree. Kalia’s point (which he refused to listen to) was that he wasn’t the target (which the audience knew to be true but he didn’t) and neither was Jordan. Instead of listening and trying to play nice, he went crazy. I don’t think his intention was to really keep Jordan off the block, it was to originally keep him off the block. He was pissed and blew up. Not well played even if he was lucky enough to get everything to work out for him in the end. You’re using the same flawed reasoning as Kalia did. We at home knew full well that Kalia put up Jeff as a pawn to beat Rachel in veto, and if he didn’t, oh well, he goes home and that’s almost as good for Kalia. Kalia explicitly stated this in her planning the noms with Dani. This is a fine plan for everyone – especially Kalia – except Rachel and Jeff. Jeff correctly tells her during their conversation, “If Rachel wins veto, I go home.” Kalia ignores his objection, and he gets pissed. Is Jeff supposed to be happy about this plan? Kalia’s downfall is her need to be liked by people; she wanted to bring Jeff in on the plan so that he’d feel on the same team with Kalia. What she was too stupid to realize is that the plan uses Jeff as an expendable commodity. Of course it pissed him off; how could it not? That he didn’t just smile and kiss the HoH’s ring is, IMO, to his credit. I personally hate the fake sucking up, but more importantly Jeff complained about that very thing all through BB11. Good on him that’s he’s now taking a stand against the HoH. At least he isn’t hypocritically kissing the ring. I’m not saying he was an angel, and maybe he was a little harsh, but his anger was clearly justified. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261/182 "2011-08-11T18:28:51Z")
On an unrelated note, Shelly is getting a terrible edit. She is running the entire house, pulling everyone’s strings. This week in particular was her crowning achievement, and yet CBS has shown none of it. Hopefully we get some good Shelly coverage tonight. Right now I’m rooting for Shelly to win it all as far and away the most deserving. Distant second would be Porsche, believe it or not, who is the only one to see through Shelly. ETA: I like J&J, but would like to see them voted out back to back with a couple/few weeks to hang out in jury house together. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261/183 "2011-08-11T18:34:38Z")
I thought Shelly got a lot of airtime last night. First trying to calm Rachel down and later (unsuccessfully) trying to reassure her place with J&J. ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261/184 "2011-08-11T23:10:51Z")
I certainly hope that _someone_ is getting a shit edit because the broadcast is making it look like no one has a clue on how to run a decent strategy. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261/185 "2011-08-12T01:58:02Z")
Jesus fucking Christ, America! You suck so bad! ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261/186 "2011-08-12T01:58:30Z")
Fuck me. Anyway, I wonder if they regret not voting out Rachel now. To paraphrase Obi Wan, they’re more powerful now than anyone ever imagined. ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261/187 "2011-08-12T02:00:00Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Jesus fucking Christ, America! You suck so bad! Ho yeah. You have to get rid of the WHOLE wart, folks. Not that I loved Lawon, but having Brenchel back in the house is nauseating. Poor Dom. I tried, sweetie. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261/188 "2011-08-12T02:00:57Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Jesus fucking Christ, America! You suck so bad! Who audits these votes? I really think they rigged it for drama ratings. They might have just killed the show for me. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261/189 "2011-08-12T02:07:18Z")
That said, Lawon looked poleaxed at the end. He really thought he had a chance against Brendon… ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261/190 "2011-08-12T02:08:30Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > Fuck me. > > Anyway, I wonder if they regret not voting out Rachel now. To paraphrase Obi Wan, they’re more powerful now than anyone ever imagined. I’m betting Dani, Kalia and Porsche have their hearts down around the soles of their shoes right now. It’s just sickening. ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261/191 "2011-08-12T02:10:07Z")
Yeah, Lawon is shorter and not as quick, but he also didn’t have a harpy fiancee shrieking answers at him. Amazed that that was allowed. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261/192 "2011-08-12T02:16:45Z")
Big Brother sucks! ---
**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261/193 "2011-08-12T02:19:38Z")
I think Charles Van Doren is going to be on next season. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261/194 "2011-08-12T02:21:29Z")
> [@CapnPitt](#): > > I think Charles Van Doren is going to be on next season. I think Charles Van Doren is already working for production. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261/195 "2011-08-12T02:29:10Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Dammit. Lawon’s going to be evicted, you know America is going to vote to bring Brendon back because that’ll create the most drama, and he’ll easily win a competition against Lawon. That means Rachel & Brendon will be together again. I really can’t stand watching that skank and her douchebag fiancee any more. Idiots, the whole lot of them. And America too. ---
**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261/196 "2011-08-12T02:38:54Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Idiots, the whole lot of them. And America too. +1 ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261/197 "2011-08-12T04:25:00Z")
I’m done with this show. Add it to Idol for shows I won’t bother with again. Hey, **CapnPitt** , come back to the poker game already, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261/198 "2011-08-12T12:48:39Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > On an unrelated note, Shelly is getting a terrible edit. She is running the entire house, pulling everyone’s strings. This week in particular was her crowning achievement, and yet CBS has shown none of it. Hopefully we get some good Shelly coverage tonight. > > Right now I’m rooting for Shelly to win it all as far and away the most deserving. Distant second would be Porsche, believe it or not, who is the only one to see through Shelly. > > ETA: I like J&J, but would like to see them voted out back to back with a couple/few weeks to hang out in jury house together. After her noodling through the ‘plans’ of Lawon and how easy she spotted his B.S., I was impressed. She did this twice last night, but my mind is foggy, so I can’t remember the other incident. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261/199 "2011-08-12T13:05:06Z")
> [@Meatros](#): > > After her noodling through the ‘plans’ of Lawon and how easy she spotted his B.S., I was impressed. She did this twice last night, but my mind is foggy, so I can’t remember the other incident. The other one I saw was the Dani bullshit that she saw through. Also, the quick single question she had for the sleeping Kalia – unless that’s what you meant about scoping out Lawon’s “acting” skilz. Why do you suppose CBS buckled to the pressure to inflict more Brenchel on us? Hatred for America? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-13-season-discussion-thread/588261/200 "2011-08-12T13:07:14Z")
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