# Big Brother 2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 9, 2012, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712 "2012-07-09T17:23:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712/122 "2012-09-03T09:40:01Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > CBS was coming in really garbled for me last night. I missed the first 45 min. of the show. I did catch the veto meeting. Did anything interesting/important happen during the rest of the hour? Is anything interesting happening at all? How often does something interesting or important happen? Almost never. But after a show has been broadcast, there are many places where you can go and watch it. To the best of my knowledge, after a TV show has finished broadcasting, it is perfectly legal for some sites to allow people to come and watch it there. I sure hope I don’t get banned for posting this. I know this site is incredibly stringent when it comes to even a hint of anything illegal. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712/123 "2012-09-03T09:50:10Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Dan even had me fooled. In the four seasons I’ve been watching I don’t remember a time when I didn’t know who was really working with whom. Until tonight. Dan swore on the bible, his wedding ring, his wife, and everything that he holds dear he was working with Frank. That convinced me. To turn his back on that the first chance he gets? Impressive. Maybe so. But it will certainly cost him at least one jury vote. And the more often he does this, the more jury votes he will lose. Pretty soon, he won’t have any jury votes at all. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712/124 "2012-09-04T16:03:01Z")
It’s great to get to the end and have the jury votes locked up (as Dan did in BB10). But when that isn’t possible, it’s still better to get to the end to collect the runner-up prize ($50k) than to be evicted as a nice guy with “integrity”. Dan is actually a Magnificent Bastard and his move to get himself off the block was his Crowning Moment of Awesome. I was most impressed by how he led Frank to the payoff for his complicated plan by getting Frank to suggest it. He basically did an Inception and made Frank think it was his own idea. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712/125 "2012-09-06T13:50:31Z")
Since everyone left will be on the jury except the final two, I think Dan’s strategy might backfire on him if stays to the end. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712/126 "2012-09-06T17:57:25Z")
Dan has stated that if he gets to the final two with Danielle (one of his players from the coaching portion of the season) and wins the 50k second prize, he will consider that a total victory. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712/127 "2012-09-07T02:23:42Z")
That was all kinds of awesome. Jen has really been coming on strong of late, OTEV notwithstanding. ---
**Author:** ![tsm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/db5fbb/32.png) [@tsm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tsm)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712/128 "2012-09-07T02:41:46Z")
A big storm took my satellite out during the second vote. Who was the second eviction? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712/129 "2012-09-07T02:44:05Z")
Hmmm, west coasters probably haven’t seen it yet, so: Joe and Danielle on the block, Joe was voted out 3-0. ---
**Author:** ![tsm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/db5fbb/32.png) [@tsm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tsm)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712/130 "2012-09-07T02:55:11Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Hmmm, west coasters probably haven’t seen it yet, so: > > Joe and Danielle on the block, Joe was voted out 3-0. Thanks. I saw who went up and that’s the way I figured it would go, but you never know. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712/131 "2012-09-07T03:37:24Z")
Best part of tonights episode was when Joe was talking to Dan, thinking he was Shane. Dan is pretty much like teflon in this game. ---
**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712/132 "2012-09-07T11:52:16Z")
I’m wondering if Danielle is crying now or if she’ll ever stop crying. Joe talking to Dan in the dark was, indeed, hilarious. I love Ian’s nerd-rage. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712/133 "2012-09-07T12:07:52Z")
So, is Shane really that dumb/bad at challenges or is he trying to lay low to keep the target off of himself? At the beginning of the summer I would have bet he would have won a number of challenges. His attempt at the veto maze was comical… ---
**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712/134 "2012-09-07T13:43:22Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Best part of tonights episode was when Joe was talking to Dan, thinking he was Shane. That was awesome. Joe and Shane are both idiots. My husband noticed that in the HOH competition, Joe guessed Wil almost every time. I guess he was thinking he’d be right eventually? And Shane just…I don’t know. At least he’s pretty. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712/135 "2012-09-07T15:03:50Z")
> [@yellowval](#): > > That was awesome. > > Joe and Shane are both idiots. I agree. And yet I also disagree because “idiot” is just not strong enough of a word to describe these two. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712/136 "2012-09-08T00:02:23Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > So, is Shane really that dumb/bad at challenges or is he trying to lay low to keep the target off of himself? At the beginning of the summer I would have bet he would have won a number of challenges. His attempt at the veto maze was comical… Didn’t Shane start off the season with 3 veto wins and 2 HoHs? ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712/137 "2012-09-08T01:20:53Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Didn’t Shane start off the season with 3 veto wins and 2 HoHs? Yep. I had to go back and look it up, but he sure did. Maybe he decided he was winning too much and decided to lay low. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712/138 "2012-09-08T02:37:35Z")
Just ran across this now-old exit interview with Britney. Looks like Jeff does half-hour exit interviews with the evicted houseguests each week. If the direct link doesn’t work, it’s on [cbs.com](http://cbs.com) under Big Brother =\> Videos =\> Live Chats. Britney’s interview is awesome. [Live Chat: Britney](http://www.cbs.com/shows/big_brother/video/2275840447/big-brother-live-chat-britney) The week when the coaches entered the game there was no evicted houseguest to interview so Jordan sat in. Those two are so cute together. At the end they plug their web series [Jeff and Jordan Do America](http://www.cbs.com/shows/jeff_and_jordan_do_america/). ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712/139 "2012-09-11T11:04:37Z")
So, it’s down to Dan, Ian, Shane, Danielle and Jenn. Dan and Ian have played masterful games. Shane takes out just enough to win and could be dangerous if he makes it to the final 3. Danielle and Jenn have gotten by on social games, but I doubt either would win a final 2 against the others. Who do you want to win at this point? I’m rooting for Ian. ---
**Author:** ![judikium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9adbd/32.png) [@judikium](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/judikium)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712/140 "2012-09-11T11:12:43Z")
Rooting for Ian, but Dan has clearly played the best game. Every other player is completely susceptible to his whims. I don’t know what Ian’s endgame plan is. He can probably win the final vote against any other than Dan, but he has no one who’s going to bring him to the Final 2! Unfortunately, I think he’s dead meat if he doesn’t win the Veto next week. He should have allied with Jenn (hey, Dan pulled it off) and nominated Dan and Shane. As is, I’m guessing: #5 Jenn, #4 Ian, #3 Shane, #2 Danielle, #1 Dan. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712/141 "2012-09-11T11:29:54Z")
> [@judikium](#): > > Rooting for Ian, but Dan has clearly played the best game. Every other player is completely susceptible to his whims. I don’t know what Ian’s endgame plan is. He can probably win the final vote against any other than Dan, but he has no one who’s going to bring him to the Final 2! > > Unfortunately, I think he’s dead meat if he doesn’t win the Veto next week. He should have allied with Jenn (hey, Dan pulled it off) and nominated Dan and Shane. > > As is, I’m guessing: #5 Jenn, #4 Ian, #3 Shane, #2 Danielle, #1 Dan. That’s a fair analysis. The one thing I’d disagree with is that Ian couldn’t beat Dan in the final two. Dan has burned a lot of bridges. I think he’d get respect for the moves he made, but he’s also already won once, so the jury might not want to give it to him again. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-2012/627712.md?page=8)