# Big Brother 4: I Hate Them Already **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 9, 2003, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116 "2003-07-09T00:02:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Slainte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@Slainte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slainte)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/201 "2003-07-29T20:21:27Z")
Thanks, **NailBunny**. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/202 "2003-07-30T13:08:13Z")
Favorite part of last nightā€™s show: Jackā€™s hair blowing in the wind during the spinning chair test. Yikes, that was weird! Second favorite part: This was NOT a Jun show. That girl has been hogging face time up to now. It was good to be rid of Her Smugness for an hour or so. Third favorite part: Dana being pissed off again! I love it when sheā€™s pissed off (which is most of the time). But I donā€™t understand the big old crocodile tears at the end of the show. Was she just unhappy because her Allison nomination got vetoed or what? Help me out here. . . . Least favorite part: Killing Allisonā€™s stuffed elephant. Hey! They should be kind to stuffed animals if they canā€™t be kind to each other! It will be interesting to see who goes tonight. I think David is the more annoying of the two, so I would like to see him depart. And I support Jack since I am close to his age. ---
**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/203 "2003-07-30T13:15:35Z")
What a big baby. Is Allison that much in need of a safety blankie that she brings a stuffed elephant with her? Wah wah wah. I thought them ā€˜killingā€™ her toy over and over was the funniest part. Well that and Jackā€™s hair blowing in the wind during the spin-n-puke competition. Wheeā€¦ I agree. Iā€™d like to see Dave go instead of Jack. I really donā€™t think that theyā€™ll evict Jack because he is flying under the radar pretty well. And alsoā€¦did Nathan really get Allison THAT drunk during their ā€˜dateā€™ because it seemed afterwards, when she was flirting her ass off with her ex, that she was plastered out of her little blonde brain. Nathan also didnā€™t look too happy that she was over there flirting with her ex instead of drooling all over him like she normally is. I got the feeling that Nate wasnā€™t going to use the veto on her because of it and was shocked when he did. You could tell she was shocked too because she wasnā€™t quite expecting it. Things are going to getā€¦interesting. :dubious: IDBB ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/204 "2003-07-30T14:15:09Z")
[spoiler]Live feed conversations confirm that Dave is going to be evicted. Believe it or not, there are reports that Dave had sex with Alison last nightā€¦at least live feed recappers are describing heavy petting action under the covers, culminating with ā€œhumping motionsā€ from Dave on top of Ali. What is it with these women throwing themselves at Dave? It must be that Ranger thing. Lucky bastard. I wonder what happened to that boyfriend that Ali was so worried about?[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/205 "2003-07-30T22:28:07Z")
Well I read the spoiler and I canā€™t WAIT till toniteā€™s ep. I wonder if everybody in the house remembered to bring condoms? Safe sex ya know. And honestlyā€¦ it wouldnā€™t be the first time somebody had sex in the house. I seem to remember a week or so ago Nate let a couple use the HOH room for the night and it showed basically the same thing on camera. woo. IDBB ---
**Author:** ![AllShookDown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d9b06d/32.png) [@AllShookDown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllShookDown)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/206 "2003-07-30T23:32:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by annieclaus \* > \*\* > Third favorite part: Dana being pissed off again! I love it when sheā€™s pissed off (which is most of the time). But I donā€™t understand the big old crocodile tears at the end of the show. Was she just unhappy because her Allison nomination got vetoed or what? Help me out here. . . . > \*\* I donā€™t get that either. She goes on and on about how tough she is and then cries because the veto was used? And her line about ā€œbetrayalā€ to Nathanā€¦Iā€™m so glad he threw it right back at her that she betrayed them first. Iā€™m glad Dana got screwed on the veto yet, of those three, Iā€™d just as soon see Allison go. **Minor request regarding spoilers** It would be really nice if you guys could preface them with something like ā€œVeto spoiler 7/28ā€ so those who arenā€™t reading them ahead of time know if itā€™s safe yet. ---
**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/207 "2003-07-31T01:58:26Z")
Warning: Weds Evening 7/30 Spoiler ahead: [spoiler] I am SO glad they didnā€™t vote Jack out. I like Jack. Alsoā€¦I wonder who Aliā€™s gonna put up now that sheā€™s got HOH and if Dana is no longer safe. I bet she puts Dana up. Iā€™m also betting Ali and Nate use the HOH room for some private lovinā€¦under da covers, clothes off type stuff.šŸ˜ƒ Mrrow. Big Brother pornā€¦heh heh heh[/spoiler] IDBB ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/208 "2003-07-31T02:04:19Z")
I agree with Bad Boysā€™ spoiler on all points! Friday will be verrrrrry interesting! (And that Erika should be ashamed of herself, voting for who she did!!!) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/209 "2003-07-31T02:12:15Z")
Bet Danaā€™s pissed offā€¦ šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![callie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@callie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/callie)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/210 "2003-07-31T02:26:10Z")
**Now** Dana has a reason to cryā€¦ heheheheh ---
**Author:** ![The\_Wrong\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b782af/32.png) [@The\_Wrong\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Wrong_Girl)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/211 "2003-07-31T02:26:55Z")
Those Dave and Alison spoilers didnā€™t seem to amount to much. He told Erika that he just kissed Alison, and it was like kissing his non-existant sister. Different feeds had different reports. So, whateverā€“I really donā€™t think they did it. Bleh. I miss Dave! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/212 "2003-07-31T02:40:28Z")
And could you **believe** Skankiara claiming she and Roddy werenā€™t a couple, never kissed, never did couple things? While the producers continued the Skanki/Roddy tradition of juxtaposing visual refutations of the audio? LOL ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/213 "2003-07-31T02:54:24Z")
Gah, I canā€™t stand Alison. Sheā€™s probably going to nominate Dana and Justin. If one of them gets vetoed sheā€™ll put up Jun. (Just my WAGS) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/214 "2003-07-31T03:09:50Z")
Hell, Iā€™m almost certain sheā€™ll nominate Justin and Dana. The only other possibility is that sheā€™ll put up Dana against a sure keeper just to get rid of her. But whoā€™s the sure keeper? Iā€™m betting Robertā€¦heā€™s so under the radar to everyone but Erika that itā€™s ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![ladydisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@ladydisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladydisco)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/215 "2003-07-31T10:31:05Z")
I really donā€™t understand why Erika voted the way she did. Any ideas? ---
**Author:** ![Yossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/9de0a6/32.png) [@Yossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yossarian)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/216 "2003-07-31T12:06:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ladydisco \* > \*\*I really donā€™t understand why Erika voted the way she did. Any ideas? \*\* In a live feed recap I read ([Link](http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article3401.art&page=1)) it was stated that Jackā€“thinking that the vote was going to be unanimous against himā€“encouraged Erika to vote for him, lest she ā€œrock the boatā€ and make herself a target. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/217 "2003-07-31T13:15:25Z")
A lot of the live feed recaps also seem to indicate that Erica had a crush on David. She was always taking about what a great boyfriend he would make, how he was the only thing that made the house bearable for her, etc. ---
**Author:** ![evilhomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/43a26b/32.png) [@evilhomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/evilhomer)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/218 "2003-07-31T13:43:34Z")
**jayjay** , I think putting Dana up against a ā€œsafeā€ bet would be a mistake on Alisonā€™s part. It almost never works, and usually ends up biting the HOH in the ass. Michelle is a good example from this season. Jack, who was supposed to be the ā€œsafeā€ this time almost went out - although if Nate hadnā€™t vetoā€™d Alison, it might have worked the way Dana wanted. However, if Dana had put up Nathan instead of Jack, it would have worked out much better. ---
**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/219 "2003-07-31T13:47:05Z")
Yeah. What Dio said. IDBB ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/220 "2003-07-31T14:03:11Z")
I think Allison should nominate Dana and Justin. Then it wouldnā€™t matter which one got voted out. Theyā€™re both putzes! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116.md?page=12)