# Big Brother 4: I Hate Them Already **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 9, 2003, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116 "2003-07-09T00:02:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/221 "2003-07-31T14:23:19Z")
Actually, it’s really, really imperative that Ali gets Dana out this week. Because if Dana survives and gets HoH again (not an impossibility), Nathan and Ali are on the block as sure as the sun’s coming up in the east tomorrow morning. Justin, on the other hand, doesn’t appear to have the personal burning hatred of Ali that Dana has. Did you see the look on Dana’s face when Ali won the HoH, though? I thought she was going to swallow her lips. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/222 "2003-07-31T16:39:16Z")
I think it would have been fun if, the moment Alison was confirmed as the winner of HOH, she said: “Okay, everybody, you might as well know now, Dana will be one of my nominees. The rest of y’all can figure out who the other one is.” On live TV no less. Maybe not the _smartest_ strategic move in the world, but boy howdy wouldn’t that have been a big kick to the hornet’s nest. Not like the actual _choice_ is a surprise, but that the weepy blonde would be willing to do something so ballsy would upend everybody’s impression of her character. But no luck. I’m just glad Jack is still in the house. By far the most interesting player. And you _know_ Erica felt like a total shit when she realized she’d have to continue looking Jack in the face after she voted for his eviction but he’s still in the house. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/223 "2003-07-31T17:39:07Z")
Actually, if Jack encouraged Erika to vote against him for her own strategic safety, I doubt there would be any rancor involved there. ---
**Author:** ![DeskMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DeskMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeskMonkey)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/224 "2003-07-31T17:45:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cervaise \* > **I think it would have been fun if, the moment Alison was confirmed as the winner of HOH, she said: “Okay, everybody, you might as well know now, Dana will be one of my nominees. The rest of y’all can figure out who the other one is.” On live TV no less.** That would have been great! I loved when Jack said something about the whining, sniveling bitches in the house. I like to think he was including Nathan in that statement. When Jack was doing his exit interview with Julie Chen, she said that he had and “intimate” evening with Alison (I think) and that it was a first. What was she talking about? Is she saying that they has sex and they were the first ones to do it in Big Brother history? Di they slepp together? Surely someone else has done it. Didn’t Will and scary toothbrush girl do it? I love that weepy Alison is turning out to be a drunken slut. She’s pretty much the embodiment of Girls I Hate. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/225 "2003-07-31T17:53:15Z")
David (not Jack) had an intimate evening with Amanda (not Alison), and apparently that’s the first time on Big Brother U.S. that the producers can unambiguously say they know two people had sex on camera. Previous liaisons were evidently too quiet for them to know for sure whether anything happened. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jayjay \* > \*\*Actually, if Jack encouraged Erika to vote against him for her own strategic safety, I doubt there would be any rancor involved there. \*\* Oh, right, I forgot about that. I don’t watch the live feeds, so I wasn’t really aware of this. But if it’s true that Jack was thinking he was going to be evicted, and he was encouraging Erika (Erica?) to vote for him so it would be unanimous, now that it turned out otherwise, she has to live with the possibility that her vote _would_ have evicted him if it had been closer and not so skewed the other direction. ---
**Author:** ![DeskMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DeskMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeskMonkey)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/226 "2003-07-31T19:31:00Z")
Man, I cannot keep these people straight! Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/227 "2003-07-31T19:39:35Z")
That’s because most of them are absolutely alike… ---
**Author:** ![moejuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@moejuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moejuck)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/228 "2003-07-31T19:48:50Z")
I have watched all of the Big Brother series, and I can honestly say that I have more disdain for Allison than any other guest on any previous show. She is obviously an immature whore who will stop at no level of parasite-type action to get her way. I was almost sick when she said “I told Nathan that he had to stay out there until he was perfect” (something like that" in regards to practicing for the HOH competition. As soon as someone other than Allison or Nate wins HOH, they will both be on the block and I think Nate will go first, then they will boot her off the next week. Can’t wait until they are gone, I can’t stand their endless snuggling. Don’t you feel sorry for Jack? As he said himself, the house is like Junior Prom all over again. This guy would be running out the door if it weren’t for the money. I will make my early prediction that Jee is going to win the money. ---
**Author:** ![Slainte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@Slainte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slainte)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/229 "2003-07-31T22:48:32Z")
Although I don’t like Alison, I _love_ that she won HoH. She’d be a fool not to nominate Dana and Justin - I can’t wait for tomorrow’s episode. I’m sure Dana is sweatin’ it and rightly so. She shouldn’t have double-crossed the original alliance and been such an uberbitch to Alison (and most everyone else). What was it that Jack said about Dana? Something along the lines of: “Dana has all the sex appeal of a badger’s crotch.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/230 "2003-07-31T23:05:47Z")
I thought he said “vulture’s crotch”, myself. ---
**Author:** ![AllShookDown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d9b06d/32.png) [@AllShookDown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllShookDown)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/231 "2003-07-31T23:19:29Z")
Oh my god, I forgot about that. That was hilarious and I sure didn’t expect to hear it coming out of Jack’s mouth. Thanks for reminding me! ---
**Author:** ![Slainte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@Slainte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slainte)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/232 "2003-07-31T23:36:43Z")
You’re right, **jayjay**. I didn’t quite remember what he said. It was damn funny, especially coming from Jack. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Wrong\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b782af/32.png) [@The\_Wrong\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Wrong_Girl)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2003, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/233 "2003-07-31T23:45:44Z")
Buzzard’s crotch. Everyone on hamster time is calling her BC now. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![callie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@callie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/callie)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2003, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/234 "2003-08-01T00:44:31Z")
Nomination spoiler… According to the live feed recaps… Alison nominated Dana and Jun for eviction. I’m really surprised it wasn’t Dana/Justin but apparently Alison still thinks that she has some sort of alliance with Justin. Also according to the live feed recaps - if Justin wins veto power and saves Dana - Alison will put up Robert. It would be interesting to see what happens if Robert wins veto power and then saves Dana. ---
**Author:** ![pure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ab097/32.png) [@pure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pure)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2003, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/235 "2003-08-01T04:49:45Z")
I hope you spoiler is wrong callie. That would suck hardcore. My early pick is also Jee. ---
**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2003, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/236 "2003-08-01T13:28:10Z")
**callie** – [spoiler] I am hoping your spoiler is correct. I don’t want to see Dana go, but I am betting that it’ll be Jun who goes tbh. I mean, it’s easy to see why Dana might get voted out because she’s such an uberbitch, but then I also am betting that everybody in the house is tired of seeing Jun’s flabby body in those sick little two pieces she’s been wearing. ICK! Every time I see her flab hanging out, it makes me wanna go scrub my brain with Drano until it’s good and clean. And while I’m at it…am I the only one who thinks the girls are wierd for running around all day in nothing but bikinis, even going so far as to cook in them? Geesh. :rolleyes: I don’t do that at home and I doubt they do either, the little slutpuppies. Well…ok maybe they do. I don’t live with them so how would I know right? Still…put some fucking clothes on people! :smack:[/spoiler] IDBB ---
**Author:** ![SweetP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@SweetP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SweetP)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2003, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/237 "2003-08-01T14:58:57Z")
I’m a bit annoyed about comments about June’s flab. She’s not fat. And, she looks a hellofalot healthier than most of the other women on the show who look like they haven’t had a meal in days. With that being said, I also don’t understand why the women and men in the house wear bathing suits every day. It’s underwear, not outerwear? Who in their right mind cooks in their underwear? ---
**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2003, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/238 "2003-08-01T16:14:54Z")
Exactly, SweetP. But at least the other girls look good in their bathing suits. Jun just looks fat and icky. IDBB ---
**Author:** ![callie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@callie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/callie)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2003, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/239 "2003-08-01T22:05:20Z")
Veto spoiler… Again according to the live feed recaps… Robert won veto power. This is an interesting dilemma for Alison now - or it will be if Robert saves Dana or Jun. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2003, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/240 "2003-08-02T06:31:58Z")
First of all, I hadn’t really realized how much Jun had gained until tonight. Wow… Secondly, what was up with that conversation Ali had with Justin about Opie? Is this just Ali’s ego not believing that a straight man could possibly could resist her own personal Allegheny Mountains? Or is she trying to undermine Nate’s image with the rest of the junior high schoolers by starting that kind of rumor? Or does she actually know something we don’t? Any live feed people catch the original of that conversation? Did they edit a lot out? Do we need to get a pool started on whether Dana’s going to swallow her own lips before she’s evicted? Poor Jee. Being the only smoker can be a lonely, lonely thing. And if Ali had come out with that “He died of lung cancer, but you smoke?” to me I’d have told her to mind her own business. Like any of them in there actually care about any of the others. Justin’s ready to sell his new girlfriend down the river, Ali’s placing knives strategically over vulnerable spots on her bedbuddy’s back, Dana’s freaking out because _gasp_ someone is saying she’s evil (she’d have killed Danielle from last season). And can someone please tell Pappy Jack that the Original 8 Alliance is dead, dead, dead? Thank you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116.md?page=13)