# Big Brother 4: I Hate Them Already **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 9, 2003, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116 "2003-07-09T00:02:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Zazie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Zazie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zazie)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/321 "2003-08-27T00:30:18Z")
oh that sucks, let’s get it over with! ---
**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/322 "2003-08-27T03:51:36Z")
What the hell is _Big Brother 4_? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/323 "2003-08-27T03:54:52Z")
And what were they talking about at the end tonight about an extra person leaving? I missed a part of that sentence because of conversation in the room. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/324 "2003-08-27T04:06:35Z")
That’s what I heard. also. No more details from my end. I guess we get to have Erika and Robert leave as a couple? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/325 "2003-08-27T05:04:24Z")
The reference to another person leaving was a vague teaser. No details, just a “you better not miss this!” thing to pump up the ratings. I can’t decide if Jee’s gameplay is idiotic or brilliant. Yeah, he’s going balls-out, and attracting attention — but for cryin’ out loud, there’s hardly anybody left; _everybody_ is a target now. All the rest of them are pussyfooting around, making their little plans, and Jee’s the only one who’s actually out there in front making no secret of his intent to win the thing. What I can’t tell is whether he’s taking advantage of everybody else’s wimpy passivity, or if he’s going to overextend himself and fall on his ass. Time will tell, I guess. Of course, if Jack gets evicted, then I’m done watching. He’s the only player left with a decent personality, and who I wouldn’t be irritated about for placing in the money. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/326 "2003-08-27T05:14:48Z")
Hear, hear, **Cervaise**. The only other I have any regard for at all is Erika and I’m losing that as the weeks pass. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/327 "2003-08-27T06:06:23Z")
With regards to the teaser about another person “leaving the house,” my suspicion is that there will be a luxury comp. in which the prize will be a trip out of the house somewhere. Last year somebody won a trip in a helicopter IIRC. It _won’t_ be an eviction. The network has to milk those for all they’re worth. The only really surprising twist this show has ever pulled was bringing Amy back to the house last year. ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/328 "2003-08-27T11:29:56Z")
Diogenes, I bet you’re right. There is no way they could boot another player immediately AND extend the show for an extra week. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/329 "2003-08-27T15:31:52Z")
Ahhh…I’d forgotten about the “Get Out of the House” luxury. And last year was actually the boat ride with Jesus Vanderbeek and Suzanne Sugarbaker. The year before was Will and Bunky’s helicopter ride. ---
**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2003, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/330 "2003-08-27T16:28:45Z")
“There is no way they could boot another player immediately AND extend the show for an extra week.” If they want to add more time to it, they just do a rehash show. ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/331 "2003-08-28T00:36:21Z")
Big Brother isn’t one of the shows that does the rehashes. Survivor? Yes. Joe Millionaire? Yes. Big Brother? Nah. They just take up five minutes (or more) at the beginning of each episode to rehash everything back to the days when television was first invented. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/332 "2003-08-28T02:51:30Z")
I called the twist (sort of). ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/333 "2003-08-28T06:31:02Z")
Well, Jack’s gone. Enjoy the rest of the show. Everybody left is a yak scrotum. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/334 "2003-08-28T10:45:27Z")
Jack would want you to watch, for Erika’s sake. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Wrong\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b782af/32.png) [@The\_Wrong\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Wrong_Girl)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2003, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/335 "2003-08-28T11:35:54Z")
Power of Veto Spoiler [spoiler]Looks like the POV competition is to figure out where Jun is, from some clues around the house. So far, there’s a big apple out in the yard. Robert and Jee both thought about it and figured out that it couldn’t be an event. Erika and Allison seem to be on the right track, but Allison keeps insisting that it might be New York, New York, in Las Vegas. This is a guess on my part, but I bet the next clue will be a moonman, or whatever it is that MTV gives out. If no one figures out where Jun is, she gets PoV. Also Robert went ballistic last night after Jack was evicted and wouldn’t talk to Alison–he went on some tourette’s rampage in the back yard and was calling all the women in the house “bitches,” “whores” and “cheap sluts.” Any guesses as to whether or not CBS will choose to air that and tarnish Robert’s “nice daddy” reputation? :rolleyes: [/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/336 "2003-08-29T03:56:43Z")
Diogenes said: > [@](#): > > I called the twist (sort of). Yup, and I gave you credit [in my recap](http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article3565.art&page=1). 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/337 "2003-08-29T05:56:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by David B \* > \*\*Diogenes said: > > Yup, and I gave you credit [in my recap](http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article3565.art&page=1). 🙂 \*\* Cool. Thanks. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![omni-not](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8dc957/32.png) [@omni-not](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omni-not)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/338 "2003-08-31T02:30:56Z")
You were…wrong in that last respect, **Wrong Girl**. Liked the Tourette’s analogy, though :D. ---
**Author:** ![omni-not](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8dc957/32.png) [@omni-not](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omni-not)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/339 "2003-08-31T02:33:03Z")
Actually, you weren’t wrong, _per se_. You DID ask for guesses… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![D-bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@D-bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D-bear)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/340 "2003-09-03T20:47:14Z")
She nominated ALISON?!? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116.md?page=18)