# Big Brother 4: I Hate Them Already

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 9, 2003, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116 "2003-07-09T00:02:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![The\_Wrong\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b782af/32.png) [@The\_Wrong\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Wrong_Girl)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/101 "2003-07-13T18:05:26Z")

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Because as far as I can see, these people are morons. [wild assumption] They probably think that if one condom is good, two must be better, and that you can’t get pregnant the first time you have sex [/wild assumption].

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**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/102 "2003-07-13T18:20:40Z")

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[Scott’s tempertantrum gets him thrown outta da House](http://canoe.ca/JamBigBrother4/jul13_bb4-can.html)

IDBB

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**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2003, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/103 "2003-07-13T18:25:27Z")

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Well…now we know adding a link in a spoiler doesn’t work.:rolleyes:

IDBB

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**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2003, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/104 "2003-07-14T01:11:26Z")

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Well, there we go. There’s my meltdown. I’m kind of sad about it, actually. He was the most interesting person in the house, odious though he was.

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**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2003, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/105 "2003-07-14T13:50:47Z")

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I studiously avoided BBs 1-3, so I am a BB Virgin. I am hooked. Can’t stand Jun either, but I hate Erika even more. Scheme on, girlfriend! Crybaby Allison is about the most annoying person on prime time television.  
Since I am a person of a certain age, Jack is my hero. But Nathan makes mighty fine eye candy.  
Thanks for the spoilers about you-know-who. He was a nasty piece of work!  
So. . . this stuff goes on for how many weeks???

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/106 "2003-07-16T01:07:18Z")

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Take that “Man Troll”.

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**Author:** ![callie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@callie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/callie)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/107 "2003-07-16T01:29:05Z")

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Well that episode was completely anti-climatic!

I need more drama.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/108 "2003-07-16T13:04:47Z")

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Okay, per my promise to myself, I didn’t watch – but I gotta know, who got voted out?:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![cadolphin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c37758/32.png) [@cadolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cadolphin)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/109 "2003-07-16T13:13:37Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by twickster \*  
> \*\*Okay, per my promise to myself, I didn’t watch – but I gotta know, who got voted out?:rolleyes: \*\*

No one yet. Tune in tonight to find out…or did they say Friday? Now I’m not sure, but they did have an “explosive” show that left ya hanging. :eek: :rolleyes:

Kathy

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**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/110 "2003-07-16T13:16:06Z")

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I think they reveal who got voted out on Friday…I don’t think it’s tonight.

**cadolphin** –I totally agree. I was on the ede of my seat when Scott started throwing things. Even though I KNEW it was going to happen, it still shocked me. I’m surprised he didn’t start throwing chess pieces at people as well. He was totally out of his mind by that point I’m sure…a whack job if’n I ever saw one!

IDBB

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**Author:** ![cadolphin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c37758/32.png) [@cadolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cadolphin)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/111 "2003-07-16T13:23:59Z")

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**I\_Dig\_Bad\_Boys** I did the same thing… knew it was coming but was still startled when it did.

I did paid more attention to him throughout the show and that boy does need his meds. I could see it in his eyes and his body language even before the cussing and throwing furniture started.

I felt bad for him knowing things could have been so different if he’d just stayed on those drugs.

Kathy

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**Author:** ![80sHairMetalMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ed655f/32.png) [@80sHairMetalMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/80sHairMetalMaven)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/112 "2003-07-16T13:26:46Z")

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Perhaps they could have. I knew SOMETHING was up when he began to profess his love for Amanda, his ex. I knew that was the slow downward spiral into madness. It’ll be interesting to see how the other HGs react now he’s gone.

IDBB

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**Author:** ![cadolphin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c37758/32.png) [@cadolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cadolphin)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/113 "2003-07-16T13:28:53Z")

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Totally agreed **I\_Dig\_Bad\_Boys**.  
Kathy

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**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/114 "2003-07-16T14:05:33Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by cadolphin \*  
> \*\*Tune in tonight to find out…or did they say Friday? Now I’m not sure, \*\*

Our newspaper says it’s TONIGHT!

I don’t know about this Scott character. It looked to me like he was trying to get himself thrown out. The chair throwing was kind of lame. He never actually threw one of the chess pieces. I never really got the sense that he was very threatening. But this group of inmates seem like the kind who would stand on chairs and shriek if a mouse wandered by, so I suppose the over-reaction is to be expected.

That being said, I’m glad Scott is gone. He was rude, unattractive and a potty-mouth. One can only tolerate so much of that nonsense!

Jee’s haircut had to be the funniest part of the show! Jun’s flabby tummy the second funniest. And Crybaby Allison should be nominated as House Tramp!

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**Author:** ![cadolphin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c37758/32.png) [@cadolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cadolphin)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/115 "2003-07-16T14:24:03Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by annieclaus \*  
> \*\*Our newspaper says it’s TONIGHT!  
> \*\*

TONIGHT :eek:

**Rico** made sure I understood not to make plans tonight… we have a “hot date”. 😃

It’s my b’day and I know the “hot date” includes dinner out 😃 😃 😃

I doubt it includes BB. 😉

Will someone please let me know if I miss anyting?

Thanks tons!

Kathy

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**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/116 "2003-07-16T14:26:50Z")

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So how DO they kick someone out if they are non-cooperative? Last night, they said “go to the diary room Scott” and he just didn’t.

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**Author:** ![cadolphin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c37758/32.png) [@cadolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cadolphin)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/117 "2003-07-16T14:32:08Z")

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**SmackFu** – If you read the spoilers **I\_Dig\_Bad\_Boys** posted, they tell all about what happened.

Kathy

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/118 "2003-07-16T14:35:30Z")

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You do see him going to the Diary Room after the family meeting. They probably had a few security guys in there waiting for him.

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/119 "2003-07-16T14:52:43Z")

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Posing question- In the article linked by **IDBB** it states:

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> Before the “Big Brother 4” series even began, the producers disqualified potential player Brandon Showalter, the 28-year-old computer engineer from Newport Beach, Calif, for breaking the rules

Anyone know the skinny on that?

And drat it all, I missed Saturday’s epi. But Scott was a putz. No tears for his absence.

My .02c rundown on the prisoners:  
**Jun** : Not as annoying to me as to others, I give the girl credit for losing a lot of weight (as she and Jun have said), but she IS the “It’s all about ME!” contestant  
**Alison** : Annoys me the most. She worries about when her boyfriend thinks, yet is seen neigh on tethered either to her ex or to Nathan. Grow up.  
**Amanda** : The eyes bug me, but I don’t know much else about her yet  
**Dana** : Her voice grates, again don’t know much.  
**Erika** : Euw. She bugs me.  
**Jack** : I like Jack. I think the producers expected him to be more vocal, more into the game as the previous token old guys have been, but he seems to just be absorbing everything. I think he’ll be one to watch.  
**David** : Irks me. He’s goofy looking, more “Off” than offbeat.  
**Jee** : I like Jee, Jun acted like the world was coming to an end when he entered, but it seems to me he’s pretty much leaving her alone (or did I miss fascinating interaction?)  
**Justin** : Playah. He’s just too Rocky Balboa. I do think Amanda was probably the psycho one of that relationship.  
**Michelle** : “When I grow up I want to be a vetrinarian because I really, really like children!” _~shudder~_. Even LilMiss commented on the free space between the ears.  
**Nathan** : Sneaky eye-candy. Don’t trust him much. That Good Ol’ Boy schtik won’t last.  
**Robert** : Euweuweuw. He looks like a snake and has the personality of a slug.

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2003, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/120 "2003-07-16T14:56:01Z")

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Oops, Justin and Alison, not Justin and Amanda. Preview is my friend.

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