# Big Brother 4: I Hate Them Already **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 9, 2003, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116 "2003-07-09T00:02:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![The\_Wrong\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b782af/32.png) [@The\_Wrong\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Wrong_Girl)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/161 "2003-07-23T01:36:52Z")
“Fresh off the boat immigrant” “Fucking Korean” ? Good job, Erika. Now I hate you, too. Is there anyone decent left on this goddamned show? Why the heck does she think it’s okay to say stuff like that? Bleh. ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/162 "2003-07-23T01:44:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Wrong Girl \* > \*\*Is there anyone decent left on this goddamned show? \*\* Doesn’t look like it. But the show would be even more boring if there were. . . . ---
**Author:** ![c\_goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@c\_goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/c_goat)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/163 "2003-07-23T15:11:10Z")
Everyone on this show is a big wimp. I miss Will, who did things just to shake it up. He played the game how it should be played. Say one thing, do another and make it look like someone else did it. These unanimous evictions, and nobody using the veto are making things really boring. Since they don’t really know who you’re voting for, in the early game I would vote the other person that everyone else is voting for, just to make people wonder who betrayed them and voted the other way. For example, I would have voted to get rid of Jee, then when everyone was wondering who did it, I’d try and convince them that it was Jun and she’s untrustworthy because she only does what she wants, not what the “alliance” wants. The exes make it even easier, since you can make a case for someone trying to save/get rid of their ex. I hope Michelle gets kicked off instead. I mean really, at some point everyone is going to go up for eviction, get over it already and grow up and realize what you’ve signed up for. I’m sick of her whining and complaining. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/164 "2003-07-23T15:27:47Z")
But **c\_goat**! Michelle is the GOOD GIRL!! And she’s PRETTY! And NICE! And INNOCENT! At least we don’t have an out-and-out slut quite like Chiara from last year this time. Unless my not paying attention to live-feed happenings is fooling me… ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/165 "2003-07-23T15:46:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by c\_goat \* > \*\* > I hope Michelle gets kicked off instead. I mean really, at some point everyone is going to go up for eviction, get over it already and grow up and realize what you’ve signed up for. I’m sick of her whining and complaining. \*\* **NOOOOOO!!!** 1/2 the reason I watch this show is T&A 😃 ---
**Author:** ![c\_goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@c\_goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/c_goat)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/166 "2003-07-23T17:52:36Z")
Good point. If they do more lettuce bikinis she can stay. ---
**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/167 "2003-07-23T21:43:22Z")
Yes, those lettuce bikinis were fun…Maybe the guys can do some too… One thing that creeps me out is the toilet room has no wash basin, so they can’t wash their hands after using zee toilet without going into the other room. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2003, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/168 "2003-07-23T22:39:39Z")
I don’t believe the (literal) water closet ever did have a basin in years past, either. Besides, when you go in a public rest room, you have to come out of the stall to wash. What’s the difference? ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/169 "2003-07-24T02:02:43Z")
I’m really getting tired of: a) girls shoving locks of hair behind their ears b) girls hauling their bikini or dress tops up to keep their boobs from falling out c) guys whispering together like old ladies. And. . . after tonight’s episode, as they say, it’s a whole new ballgame! Could get interesting! ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/170 "2003-07-24T02:15:38Z")
Ha ha ha, little Barbie girl went home :D. I was also glad that Dana won HOH just because it screws with everyone’s plan to dump her next. I hope she nominates Allison and Nathan. I hate them both. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/171 "2003-07-24T02:30:56Z")
It does look like it’s finally getting interesting. Did you see the look on Jee’s face when Julie announced Michelle? That was classic “What the fuck!?” And Dana’s HoH stint is, at least, uncertain. Will she stick with the Originals or slide to the Exes? ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/172 "2003-07-24T13:40:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jayjay \* > \*\*It does look like it’s finally getting interesting. Did you see the look on Jee’s face when Julie announced Michelle? That was classic “What the fuck!?” \*\* That was pretty much everybody, I thought. ☹ :mad: I’m not motivated to watch anymore. Ok, maybe just a little. ---
**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/173 "2003-07-24T19:07:48Z")
Sorry I’ve been out of the loop. I just can’t get into it this season - I have tried. I turned it off half-way through last night. I can’t get into any of these people - but now, that new show “The Restaurant” - that’s WICKED! heh heh ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/174 "2003-07-24T19:20:46Z")
You can tell this season is not working. By this time last year there was three times the discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/175 "2003-07-24T19:27:35Z")
There are just no over-the-top, around-the-bend personalities this year. Boring. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/176 "2003-07-24T19:36:39Z")
But Dana’s pissed off! They dropped the ball on that. I was hoping to document an “I’m pissed off!” from Dana for every episode, at least until her eviction. LOL ---
**Author:** ![c\_goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@c\_goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/c_goat)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/177 "2003-07-24T21:46:28Z")
I think Dana is going to go with the exes, espeically after Jee spills the beans about how they wanted him to nominate her. I would LOVE to see her put up Nathan and Jack. I have a feeling she’ll be too much of a wimp though like everyone else so far and afraid to go against the majority. She’s gotta realize that even if she sides with the originals, that she’ll be the first gone when the exes are finished. I’m also extremely surprised that the exes never considered the possibility of the others making an alliance while they weren’t in the house yet. It seemed like the obvious course of action to me. I think they finally get it now though, with the vote being 6-2 (only Robert and Justin voted as originally planned). Anyway, if Dana puts up two of the original 8 on Friday, then I’ll continue to watch the show. If she puts up Robert and Justin (she seems to have a plan with Jee, so I doubt he’d go up), then that’s it for me, alliances are just too boring to watch in this game. ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/178 "2003-07-25T01:38:48Z")
Dana should nominate Justin. Some of the HGs seem to think he is a “strong player,” so that’s the guy who should go, right? And she should put up Allison just because she’s annoying. If one of these two isn’t on the block, I’ll be Pissed Off! ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/179 "2003-07-25T05:53:21Z")
Spoilage from the live feeds if you want it. The nominees are… [spoiler]Allison and Jack… The E8 was pissed but there was nothing they could do about it. From the way they’re talking they’re going to dump Allison and that’s just fine with me. P.S. Dana says if someone gets vetoed she’ll put up Nathan.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116/180 "2003-07-25T06:36:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by annieclaus \* > \*\*And. . . after tonight’s episode, as they say, it’s a whole new ballgame! Could get interesting! \*\* No, it’s exactly the same ballgame, but now Jee, Justin and Robert know what the rules are. I was really torn between wanting cutie-pie Michelle to stay so I could look at her, and wanting her gone just to see the look on Jee’s and Robert’s faces when they realized they’d been played all along. In the end, I think I’m happier the way it turned out. Hot girls are everywhere, but seeing Jee’s supreme confidence turn into abject confusion was priceless. **c\_goat** , I know what you mean about alliances being boring. If it works out like it should, we’ve got a pretty predictable three weeks ahead. But _then_, it gets interesting, when the group that’s been together for so long begins to tear itself apart. That’s some good drama. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-4-i-hate-them-already/187116.md?page=10)