# Big Brother 5

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 6, 2004, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840 "2004-07-06T21:07:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840/1 "2004-07-06T21:07:50Z")

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Starts tonight. Boy is this a motley bunch.

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Will, Registered Nurse, 26, Tupelo:

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> _What is your biggest fear as you begin BIG BROTHER?_
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> Fear isn’t a part of my vocabulary. Make me walk naked through a pit of snakes while eating a raccoon’s testicles–JUST SHOW ME THE MONEY!

Scott, Sales Rep, 26, Pittsburgh

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> _What weaknesses do you bring to BIG BROTHER?_
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> Being looked at as a threat based on looks

Mike, House Painter, East Pointe, MI

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> _Who is your personal hero?_
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> George W. Bush or Rush Limbaugh

Michael, Security, Durant, OK, 23

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> _What is your motto?_
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> If you want something so bad that you can taste it, don’t let nothing get in the way of your dreams.

Marvin, Undertaker, Conway, SC, 36

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> _Who is your personal hero?_
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> God

Lori, Yoga Teacher, Boston, 26

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> _How do you plan to win BIG BROTHER?_
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> By being a good player, forming trusting relationships and being honest

Karen, Portrait Painter, Saddle Brook, NJ, 30

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> _How do you plan to win BIG BROTHER?_
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> Gonna wind that House up tighter than a bull’s a\*\* in fly season!

Jennifer, Restaurant Hostess, San Antonio, 21

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> _What is your motto?_
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> I’ll sleep when I’m dead. Coffee is God. I’m happy with myself no matter whose skin I’m in.

Jase, Firefighter, Decatur, 28

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> _What three adjectives best describe you?_
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> Crazy, crazy, crazy

Holly, Model, LA, 20

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> _What weaknesses do you bring to BIG BROTHER?_
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> Food issues that may affect my group competitions; I’m opinionated; I’m dramatic

Drew, Unemployed, Urbana, OH, 22

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> _What is your motto?_
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> Don’t ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive.

Diane, Cocktail Waitress, Burlington, KY, 22

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> _What is your biggest fear as you begin BIG BROTHER?_
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> That there will be snotty girls in the House

Adria, Web Designer, Birmingham, 30

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> _What strengths do you bring to BIG BROTHER?_
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> I’m a leader and am focused. I am also a great cook.

I swear that I did not make up any of those.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840/2 "2004-07-06T22:04:52Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> I swear that I did not make up any of those.

That’s too bad; they’re damned funny!

My favorite is this one:

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> _How do you plan to win BIG BROTHER?_
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> By being a good player, forming trusting relationships and being honest.

Riiight. Because we all know trust and honesty is the way these “reality” shows are won. :smack:

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**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840/3 "2004-07-06T22:51:11Z")

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I just want to see what the “most shocking twist ever” is. Hopefully they’ll cover it in the first episode so I don’t have to watch any more.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840/4 "2004-07-07T00:34:51Z")

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15 minutes into it and already I hate Holly with the white-hot hatred that usually takes three or four weeks to develop in these shows.

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**Author:** ![LeRoi\_Lezard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/53a042/32.png) [@LeRoi\_Lezard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LeRoi_Lezard)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840/5 "2004-07-07T02:46:23Z")

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This, like all “reality” shows, is rigged. You’re supposed to root for someone, hate most of the others, look forward to their interactions, and (most importantly) keep watching. The final two players will inevitably be opposite sexes, young and attractive, and probably had the opportunity to hook up somewhere along the way but didn’t. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840/6 "2004-07-07T03:03:18Z")

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> [@LeRoi Lezard](#):
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> This, like all “reality” shows, is rigged. You’re supposed to root for someone, hate most of the others, look forward to their interactions, and (most importantly) keep watching. The final two players will inevitably be opposite sexes, young and attractive, and probably had the opportunity to hook up somewhere along the way but didn’t. :rolleyes:

Well, of course they’re gonna edit it so you have someone to root for and someone to hate. Ever see the first season? They allowed America to choose who left and they booted out the interesting people. The rest of the season was the biggest snooze you’ve ever seen.

And for the record, of the previous four seasons, several had people of the same gender as the final two. Usually the people who hook up stab each other in the back before the final four hit.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840/7 "2004-07-07T03:48:18Z")

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Holly is either the most air-headed Valley Girl in existence or she’s pulling a Jessica Simpson. I’m kind of voting for the latter. Although that voice…

Am I the only one that can practically SEE the waves of alpha-male arrogance emanating from Scott?

I called the DNA pair within 10 minutes. Too obvious. I hope he tells her, because withholding that information for a better chance at the money can’t be good for their future relationship.

Is Lori an idiot or what? Yeah, everyone’s going to SAY they’d take it. That won’t make that target on your back after a week of PB&J any smaller. (On the other hand, it wouldn’t bother me because I can eat PB&J seven days a week…love the stuff!)

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840/8 "2004-07-07T04:48:14Z")

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I don’t like many people on that show. I do like holly. After reading her bio on the Big Brother 5 website, I’m pretty sure I’m in love with her. I love self aware girls.

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> What type of news from the outside world will you miss the most? The stock market (joking!); what new crush Diana has; new styles; how my cats are

Plus a girl that loves cats as much as she does can’t be all bad. Being one, I relate to absent minded, air headed (not necessarily dumb!) blondes very well.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840/9 "2004-07-07T10:52:58Z")

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I’m surprised that Michael said nothing to Jennifer. It might affect his _game_? She’s your friggin’ sister, dude. The one you said you’d love to have. Goes to show talk is cheap, I reckon.

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**Author:** ![Futile\_Gesture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840/10 "2004-07-07T11:18:11Z")

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If the American BB5 is anything like the British it’ll be the last. The UK version is half way through and has reached the stage where the producers have recruited a selection of freaks and nutters with conflicting personalities, placed them in a pressure cooker and then provoked them until they either fight or sleep each other. They’ve also got at least three bisexuals (plus one more who admits he lied that he was in order to get on the show) and one secret transsexual; they are _desperate_ for some headline-grabbing high-jinxs to happen.

The inevitable result was increased viewing for a single day and a police investigation as things turned violent.

The show is dead. There is nowhere else for it to go, except onto some subscription only porn channel.

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**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840/11 "2004-07-07T11:46:17Z")

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I thought that was a bit low to exploit the unknown blood-tie between a half-brother/sister for ratings. That just isn’t cool. On another note, where do they find these hyper-narcissistic body-shaven “men” who wear fricking headbands?

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840/12 "2004-07-07T11:54:30Z")

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As fortune would have it, they’re the ones who apply, reasoning that it is on their behalf an act of kind charity to expose their beauty to us all.

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**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840/13 "2004-07-07T13:37:51Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> I’m surprised that Michael said nothing to Jennifer. Goes to show talk is cheap, I reckon.

He’s in a tough situation though, since the story from her perspective is so unbelieveable. She gave all the information to him, and none flowed the other way, so she might think he’s just trying to manipulate her.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840/14 "2004-07-07T13:58:00Z")

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I suppose that is a possiblity.

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**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840/15 "2004-07-07T14:38:08Z")

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What’s the deal with the “identical twins”? Anyone know?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840/16 "2004-07-07T15:11:52Z")

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> [@rockle](#):
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> What’s the deal with the “identical twins”? Anyone know?

Well, both Drew and Diane mentioned that they had twins while the whole group was talking around the sofa. Which leads me to believe that it’s neither one of them because the producers simply would not make it that easy to figure out.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840/17 "2004-07-07T15:13:08Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Well, both Drew and Diane mentioned that they had twins while the whole group was talking around the sofa. Which leads me to believe that it’s neither one of them because the producers simply would not make it that easy to figure out.

Oh, and the deal with the identical twins is that one of the housemates has an identical twin who is also playing this game and they’ll switch off periodically without telling (apparently either us or the housemates) which twin it is. The housemates don’t even know it’s happening, let alone who it is.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840/18 "2004-07-07T15:20:49Z")

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This is why I watch _This Year’s Model_ instead. When I want to watch a reality show full of mindless whining and back-stabbing, I prefer it being done by scantily clad young women.

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**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840/19 "2004-07-07T15:42:14Z")

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Adria, Web Designer from Birmingham, AL:

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> What is your motto?  
> _Being fit is twice the fun!_

Whaaa…??? 😕 Does this make sense to anyone? And I thought Holly was the dumb one.

FTR, I hate Holly. She’s possibly the most annoying reality show contestant ever. I thought Alison from BB4 was bad, but seeing her on _The Amazing Race 5_, as annoying as she is, seems like a Mensa member compared to Holly.

Why is Julie Chen a different color this season? It’s very distracting. Well, that and all the glitter she was wearing. Did she think she was a Christmas ornament? Or a stripper? Julie, you’re not 18 anymore.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-5/253840/20 "2004-07-07T15:55:01Z")

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> [@Nutty Bunny](#):
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> FTR, I hate Holly. She’s possibly the most annoying reality show contestant ever. I thought Alison from BB4 was bad, but seeing her on _The Amazing Race 5_, as annoying as she is, seems like a Mensa member compared to Holly.

Heh! Did you ever hear Margaret Cho’s bit about the deal with Los Angeles and high colonics? The voice she uses for the girl who does her colonic is EXACTLY like Holly’s voice!

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