# Big Brother 8 (7-5-07) (open spoilers - spoiler space for mouseover...) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 6, 2007, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679 "2007-07-06T01:27:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2007, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679/21 "2007-07-07T17:22:27Z")
[QUOTE=interface2x] I didn’t realize that it’s literally three hours EVERY night. Screw that! [/QUOTE] You can fast forward through a lot of it. “See, I can move my pecs. Can you move your pecs? You can move your pecs. Look at me moving my pecs. Hey, you can move your pecs too. Pecs pecs pecs.” ---
**Author:** ![8675309](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/ea5d25/32.png) [@8675309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/8675309)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2007, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679/22 "2007-07-07T19:50:25Z")
I hope America’s houseguest is up for anything we tell him to do. ---
**Author:** ![phil417](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6bbea6/32.png) [@phil417](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phil417)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2007, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679/23 "2007-07-07T19:56:33Z")
Can someone please explain the Big Brother draw? I recently left a 3rd shift job, so I’m finally watching prime time tv. Sorry, I don’t understand the big deal about So you Think You can Dance, America’s Got Talent, or Big Brother. (I confess I watched America Idol, because LaKeisha’s a local girl). But can someone explain why this genre is hot right now? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2007, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679/24 "2007-07-07T20:05:54Z")
[QUOTE=phil417] Can someone please explain the Big Brother draw? I recently left a 3rd shift job, so I’m finally watching prime time tv. Sorry, I don’t understand the big deal about So you Think You can Dance, America’s Got Talent, or Big Brother. (I confess I watched America Idol, because LaKeisha’s a local girl). But can someone explain why this genre is hot right now? Thanks. [/QUOTE] Schadenfreude. We revel in the fact that _we’re_ not stupid enough to go on these shows and some other poor sucker is. This does not hold, btw, for something like Idol or the Amazing Race, which actually require SOME talent and/or skill other than schmoozing or being a ho. Oh, and DRAMA! Especially for “put a bunch of strangers in a couple thousand square feet for 3 months with not a single other human being” type shows… ---
**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2007, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679/25 "2007-07-07T21:32:51Z")
Pretty good start, I thought. The “enemies” twist is kinda lame, though. You’ve got a girl who owes another girl $5 since high school (is that the best they could come up with?), the estranged father and daughter (possibilities) and Joe DramaQueen and his ex. I wasn’t sure which one I was going to favor until JDQ stood up in front of a group of total strangers and screamed “HE GAVE ME GONORRHEA!!!” That kind of blunt honesty deserves a very quick eviction. Jessica has taken the “most annoying voice in BB history” award away from Diane big time! The “America’s Puppet” guy was one of the few I liked right away. Hope he stays for awhile. And let me the first in this thread to proclaim: EVIL DICK ROCKS!!! Yes, that’s what I said. I’ll root for anyone in this game who doesn’t look like he/she just stepped out of an Abercrombie and Fitch print ad. And we still don’t know who’s at fault in this estrangement; it could very well be the daughter. Was it just the dress or does Julie the Robot look a little on the anorexic side this season? ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679/26 "2007-07-08T11:46:45Z")
[QUOTE=want2know] EVIL DICK ROCKS!!! Yes, that’s what I said. I’ll root for anyone in this game who doesn’t look like he/she just stepped out of an Abercrombie and Fitch print ad. And we still don’t know who’s at fault in this estrangement; it could very well be the daughter. Was it just the dress or does Julie the Robot look a little on the anorexic side this season? [/QUOTE] I support the “wait and see” approach to Dick, and I suspect it’s at least a 50/50 situation with the daughter. I also noticed that Julie Clone looked a little “rode hard and put up wet” in that first installmant. Maybe Les is hard on her? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679/27 "2007-07-08T13:11:51Z")
[QUOTE=want2know] And let me the first in this thread to proclaim: EVIL DICK ROCKS!!! [/QUOTE] You misspelled “second”. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679/28 "2007-07-08T22:45:05Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] [FONT=Verdana]I don’t like any of them. A black racist: “I cain’t stand bein’ in here wid all deez white people”. [/quote] She did not say that. She said, “I’m not used to being around all these white people”. That doesn’t make her racist, just sheltered. There are lots of black people who are just as equally provincial, and they’re always the first ones snapped up by reality TV shows. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2007, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679/29 "2007-07-08T23:58:13Z")
I was exaggerating, Monstro, drawing a caricature of her just like I was with all the rest of the gang. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679/30 "2007-07-09T01:31:58Z")
I propose that we just have one thread per week, instead of having to begin three different threads every week. So this one would be the Week 1 thread instead of the 7-5 thread. Agreement? Problem? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679/31 "2007-07-09T01:35:51Z")
Jessica bugs. Just. Bugs. And Jen! WTF? That picture wasn’t even close to BAD and she’s going off the deep end like someone had photoshopped her decapitated with a machete or something! And the whole thing about Dick not being allowed to touch them…I mean, he’s not my favorite person in the house, but that whole tirade on Jen’s part was completely stupid. I’ll concede that maybe there was a bit of dirty-old-man interplay we didn’t get shown, but still… Amber bugs a little bit. She’s a too teary for me, even if I do sympathize with her about her family. So…the Mrs. Robinson Alliance, eh? ---
**Author:** ![WindFish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a183cd/32.png) [@WindFish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WindFish)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679/32 "2007-07-09T03:10:15Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] And Jen! WTF? That picture wasn’t even close to BAD and she’s going off the deep end like someone had photoshopped her decapitated with a machete or something! [/quote] Yes, when the blonde, still-in-high-school-mentality, cartoon-voice girl who looks down on someone for using a curling iron thinks you’re too shallow, it’s time to re-examine your place in life, Jen. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679/33 "2007-07-09T16:20:20Z")
I’m really liking America’s boy less and less and less. On the Showtime feeds, he is an extraordinary yapper, talking ceasely. I think he has trained himself to end his sentences while inhaling so that he doesn’t pause before the next one. He rattles monotonously for fifteen minutes without saying anything coherent. Maybe that’s his “strategy” or whatever, but it is terribly off-putting. And that’s not to mention his stupid nipple rings. That is one affectation that I just cannot understand. ---
**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679/34 "2007-07-09T16:41:11Z")
He also whines about _everything_. My favorites so far are: Dick Nick Daniele Dustin Jameka Can’t stand: Jen Don’t care for: Joe Jessica Amber Eric Meh: Everyone else ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679/35 "2007-07-09T16:46:40Z")
As long as Nick and Jameka are still in the game, I’ll keep watching. The rest of them, I don’t even care what order they leave in, as long as they leave. This group is the least interesting so far. They could all be played by mannequins. Not a soul in the group. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679/36 "2007-07-09T16:52:40Z")
[QUOTE=Zeldar] As long as Nick and Jameka are still in the game, I’ll keep watching. The rest of them, I don’t even care what order they leave in, as long as they leave. This group is the least interesting so far. They could all be played by mannequins. Not a soul in the group. [/QUOTE] Eh. I think it’s too early to tell. It’s only the second ep, after all. It’s WAY too early to be seeing most of their actual personalities…there are just too many people yet. Few of them have had enough screen time to actually become individuals to us. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679/37 "2007-07-09T16:58:44Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] Eh. I think it’s too early to tell. It’s only the second ep, after all. It’s WAY too early to be seeing most of their actual personalities…there are just too many people yet. Few of them have had enough screen time to actually become individuals to us. [/QUOTE] You could be right. I do seem to have this same basic attitude at the start of each new season. And it does take a few behind-the-scenes encounters and a few exceptional efforts in the challenges before I warm to anybody well enough to pull for them. But this crowd makes it tough. I genuinely dislike all but maybe four of them and that’s giving two of them a break. Except for Nick, the Alliance Of Four is comedy. The pairs involved in the “enemies sector” are insipid at best. Jen is plastic. What’s left? ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679/38 "2007-07-09T17:14:19Z")
As a reality TV junkie that had never watched Big Brother and was really curious. I must say that this show sucks. I am sure I will watch a few more episodes, but I just don’t see myself falling for it. Explain the draw of it again? For the perspective of someone who is already into reality TV. How is this different or better than the rest? FTR, I liked The Real World, so I am not so far from this. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679/39 "2007-07-09T17:44:46Z")
[QUOTE=Zeldar] You could be right. I do seem to have this same basic attitude at the start of each new season. And it does take a few behind-the-scenes encounters and a few exceptional efforts in the challenges before I warm to anybody well enough to pull for them. But this crowd makes it tough. I genuinely dislike all but maybe four of them and that’s giving two of them a break. Except for Nick, the Alliance Of Four is comedy. The pairs involved in the “enemies sector” are insipid at best. Jen is plastic. What’s left? [/QUOTE] Well, there’s your problem. You’re looking for someone to like. Realize before you even start that even if you _find_ someone on this show to like, they’re not going to win, or probably even make it to the Final Three. The last three seasons have proved this to me. And even if you find someone to like, if they do the next All-Stars season you’ll just hate them even worse than you hate the people you hate this season. Trust me. Janelle and whats’ername…Mike Boogie’s patsy, from All-Stars proved that to me. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679/40 "2007-07-09T17:46:44Z")
[QUOTE=Sapo] As a reality TV junkie that had never watched Big Brother and was really curious. I must say that this show sucks. I am sure I will watch a few more episodes, but I just don’t see myself falling for it. Explain the draw of it again? For the perspective of someone who is already into reality TV. How is this different or better than the rest? FTR, I liked The Real World, so I am not so far from this. [/QUOTE] It’s like a roller-coaster. The first 2 minutes are just a long, boring trip up to the top of the first drop. About the first two weeks of this show are like that. Then, when alliances really start popping out of the woodwork and backs start getting stabbed…that’s the drop. That’s when it gets good. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-8-7-5-07-open-spoilers-spoiler-space-for-mouseover/410679.md?page=3)