# Big Brother Season XI \[edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 9, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477 "2009-07-09T18:17:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477/321 "2009-09-13T22:37:49Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > If Federer puts the third set away, BB may start on time, if not be prepared for Big Brother to be delayed by the semis of the US Open. Set DVRs accordingly. > > Go Jordan!! It’s a clip show, anyway. I’m skipping it because I generally skip the clip show episode of reality shows…I’ve seen most of this before, and it doesn’t mean a thing for the game itself, so it’s infinitely missable. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477/322 "2009-09-13T22:59:20Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > It’s a clip show, anyway. I’m skipping it because I generally skip the clip show episode of reality shows…I’ve seen most of this before, and it doesn’t mean a thing for the game itself, so it’s infinitely missable. Maybe I misunderstood the schedule, but I thought they were going to have round 3 for final HOH tonight. Evicition/ jury questions / votes and reunion show on Tuesday. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477/323 "2009-09-13T23:11:27Z")
Federer won at 7:10 pm edt, look for BB to start at 8:15 edt or so. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477/324 "2009-09-13T23:24:08Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Maybe I misunderstood the schedule, but I thought they were going to have round 3 for final HOH tonight. Evicition/ jury questions / votes and reunion show on Tuesday. [TV Guide.com](http://www.tvguide.com/detail/tv-show.aspx?tvobjectid=294992&more=ucepisodelist&episodeid=12371617) says that “highlights from the season are featured.” And the synopsis for [Tuesday](http://www.tvguide.com/detail/tv-show.aspx?tvobjectid=294992&more=ucepisodelist&episodeid=12436313) says that the final part of the HoH will happen then. It’s a 2-hour show. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477/325 "2009-09-13T23:32:42Z")
60 Minutes started at 7:24pm. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477/326 "2009-09-14T01:24:19Z")
Watching the clip show I noticed that when Chima is laying in her bed for the last time before being booted, she has a loose-leaf notebook propped up in one corner of the headboard. Since I believe that reading materials are forbidden (except for the Christian Bible and perhaps other religious tomes), I can only assume that the notebook contained the Big Brother game rules. Maybe she was checking off how many she had broken. ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477/327 "2009-09-14T01:38:05Z")
Yes, it was the manual they were passing around. Natalie also studied it. Well, that started late and ended lame. I muted all the Jordan and Jeff footage as I had already had dessert today, and the remainder took up about five minutes. I’m not spoiler-barring this since it’s not really game-related: in the live feeds, they showed the HGs always being interrupted and coached in their reminiscing, being told to stop talking about certain things (like Russ calling Ronnie a Nazi, Michele’s sex talks, etc.) and more about others (Jeff, Casey). ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477/328 "2009-09-14T01:46:12Z")
That clip show may have hurt Jordan’s chances:[spoiler]Toward the end, Jordan left the room for a bit and Kevin and Natalie were saying that “now we know this was the Jeff and Jordan show. Ugh. America loves them. We must look like bullies.” In other words, the DR instructions for the reminiscing made it crystal clear to Kevin that Jordan will get America’s jury vote, which he didn’t seem aware of to that point.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477/329 "2009-09-14T02:24:41Z")
I hadn’t seen any of the live feeds but while watching the clip show it was obvious to me that the producers were feeding them the topics to discuss as intros into the clips. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477/330 "2009-09-16T03:08:13Z")
Atta girl Jordan! Way to play the best at the end. Winning the final HOH and making the absolute right decision to take Natalie to the Final 2. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477/331 "2009-09-16T03:15:17Z")
Go Jordan Go Jordan Go Jordan 80 total votes to evict, including tie breakers? Really Kevin? But I think the answer was 52 votes but BB said it was 51 Braden 11 votes plus 10 votes to evict plus tiebreaker Laura 9 votes Casey 8 votes Ronnie 7 votes Jesse 5 votes (Coup d’Etat, Chima and Jeff did not vote) Chima No votes Lydia 4 votes Russell 3 votes Jeff 3 votes (2 votes + tiebreaker) Michelle 1 vote Kevin 1 vote Go Jordan ETA…oops Jordan vote to evict Kevin had not happened yet…nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477/332 "2009-09-16T03:48:14Z")
I wish Julie had asked Kevin who he would have taken with him had he won the last HOH. All in all a very satisfying conclusion. I liked Jordan early on but predicted that she didn’t have a snowball’s chance. I’m glad she won. She seems like good people and she and her family need the money. I just hope she gets a good and trustworthy money manager. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477/333 "2009-09-16T04:01:22Z")
That couldn’t have gone better, though Natalie winning $50k sucks balls. I would much rather Kevin get $60k and leave Natalie with nothing, but I think Kevin would have beaten Jordan if Jordan chose Kevin. If Kevin won and chose Jordan, I think Jordan would have won, so in a way it would have been best if Kevin won part three. But I was glad to see Jordan win the third part, and I was especially glad that Jordan made it a point of emphasis that she won the last two competitions. I was worried she’d present it as one HoH win, diminshing her achievement. Go Jordan. I’m so happy she won. It’s rare to see such a stark contrast between good and evil square off at the end of a reality show. (Speaking in general; not specific to Big Brother.) There’s usually shades of gray in every player, and the final two are often very similar so you’re just rooting on a lesser of two evil type of thing. Or both finalists are fundamentally decent, and you don’t care which wins but feel bad the other loses. This one was perfect. All good all the time versus all nasty all the time, and the good person won. And hey, she’s on the short list to go to Hawaii, so there’s that. (Ha!) ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477/334 "2009-09-16T04:32:18Z")
What was Lydia’s problem with Jordan? Is she \*really \*still that bitter about Jeff using the Coup d’etat? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477/335 "2009-09-16T04:50:40Z")
She just doesn’t like Jordan. Remember that back in week 1 she and Jordan got in a screaming match. Jordan is sweetness and light, and very chaste. Lydia is…not. I find it totally in character for someone like Lydia to hate someone like Jordan just on general principle. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477/336 "2009-09-16T10:22:06Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > She just doesn’t like Jordan. Remember that back in week 1 she and Jordan got in a screaming match. > > Jordan is sweetness and light, and very chaste. Lydia is…not. I find it totally in character for someone like Lydia to hate someone like Jordan just on general principle. But in the end Lydia voted for Jordan anyway. Russell voting for Natalie surprised me a little, but how about Jesse voting for Jordan? That has to hurt Natalie deep down. ---
**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477/337 "2009-09-16T12:09:52Z")
Snuggie. That is all I saw last night. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477/338 "2009-09-16T12:36:15Z")
It’s good to see a nice person finally win the game. It’s usually the biggest asshole (Evil Dick, Mike Boogie, Dr. Will) who ends up winning. ---
**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477/339 "2009-09-16T12:39:50Z")
> [@Nutty\_Bunny](#): > > Snuggie. > > That is all I saw last night. The blue monstrosity Julie was wearing or the wedgie Jordan had the entire show from her hot pants? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477/340 "2009-09-16T13:03:44Z")
> [@Nutty\_Bunny](#): > > Snuggie. > > That is all I saw last night. Heh…the first thing I thought was that poor Julie had gotten to the point where they finally just draped a tent over her. That or I expected her to break into a handclapping chorus of “Oh, Happy Day”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-brother-season-xi-edited-title/502477.md?page=18)