# Big Love 2/1 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 3, 2009, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-1/484212 "2009-02-03T03:23:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-1/484212/21 "2009-02-05T11:38:20Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > This was a great episode – probably better than the whole second season (maybe excluding the nuttiness of the Green family stuff.) Yours very sincerely, Hollis Green. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-1/484212/22 "2009-02-05T11:41:01Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Women usually seem to get the shaft in most religions. That seems rather gratuitous. Certainly women were very important in Jesus’ ministry. And it was a woman to whom He first appeared after His resurrection. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-1/484212/23 "2009-02-05T13:55:08Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > That seems rather gratuitous. Certainly women were very important in Jesus’ ministry. And it was a woman to whom He first appeared after His resurrection. Women fared _better_ in Jesus’ ministry, that’s very true. Of course the New Testament (Bible lite!) softens the stance ( and in some instances erases) of many examples of sin and punishment. Personally, I’d love it if Christians simply used Jesus’ ministry as their guide to thoughts and actions, but even Jesus said in Luke 16:17 “And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one title of the law to fail.” Naturally there are a lot of contradictions in the Bible. I still suggest to anyone interested the book I mentioned in my first post here, but get into a lengthy discussion about the Bible here? Not really something I’m interested in doing. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-1/484212/24 "2009-02-05T15:27:12Z")
All the major religions: Islam, Judaism, Catholicism, evangelical Christianity, LDS all teach a woman is to be submissive to male authority. The FLDS is extreme but they all teach just about the same thing if you read the fine print. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-1/484212/25 "2009-02-05T18:35:24Z")
> [@xanthous](#): > > I thought the last scene was best: Nikki sitting there, after tearing her page out of the Joy Book and feeling the anger/pain/shame—whatever it was (perhaps really for the first time), and being a total captive audience for the prosecutor’s opening arguments against her father, the prophet. I felt bad for her but at the same time, she’s also very manipulative. A bit like Rhonda–I guess she’s had to be that way. When you grow up in a place with institutionalized statutory rape, you either learn to manipulate or you get crushed. I saw that scene as her turning yet another scene to her advantage. Now she’s getting more info about the case against her father, straight from the source. Though I am starting to wonder if she’s going to turn against Roman. She’s always been super supportive of him–which is yet another thing that made me wonder if he’d molested her. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-1/484212.md?page=1)