# Big Love 2/9/09 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 9, 2009, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064 "2009-02-09T14:57:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064/21 "2009-02-10T14:39:20Z")
You know what annoys me? There’s two characters named Rhonda and Wanda. With the crappy sound on my TV it’s sometimes hard to tell who people are talking about. I was a little disappointed that the trial fell apart so quickly. Nice job screening that hotel maid, Utah’s finest. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![jellyblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jellyblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jellyblue)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064/22 "2009-02-10T16:06:32Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > You know what annoys me? There’s two characters named Rhonda and Wanda. With the crappy sound on my TV it’s sometimes hard to tell who people are talking about. > > I was a little disappointed that the trial fell apart so quickly. Nice job screening that hotel maid, Utah’s finest. 😉 I’d say the way the DA’s office [didn’t] screen their office help was way more egregious! ---
**Author:** ![Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rube_E.Tewesday)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064/23 "2009-02-10T16:37:45Z")
> [@jellyblue](#): > > I’d say the way the DA’s office [didn’t] screen their office help was way more egregious! And how, in a case where the age of the victims was crucial, the DA didn’t have a plan for establishing age. ---
**Author:** ![jellyblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jellyblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jellyblue)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064/24 "2009-02-10T16:53:26Z")
> [@Rube\_E.Tewesday](#): > > And how, in a case where the age of the victims was crucial, the DA didn’t have a plan for establishing age. Yeah, can’t you tell by their teeth or something?😉 ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064/25 "2009-02-10T17:24:57Z")
> [@jellyblue](#): > > I’d say the way the DA’s office [didn’t] screen their office help was way more egregious! Yeah. In the last episode the DA was all “I am obsessed with Roman Grant! I live and breathe him!” - except you don’t know who all his children are? And my first thought, when the age question came up, was “can’t they cut one of the girls in half and count her rings?” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064/26 "2009-02-10T22:28:43Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > Yeah. In the last episode the DA was all “I am obsessed with Roman Grant! I live and breathe him!” - except you don’t know who all his children are? Well to be fair, the dude’s probably got like 90 children at this point. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064/27 "2009-02-10T22:28:55Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > …I was a little disappointed that the trial fell apart so quickly. Nice job screening that hotel maid, Utah’s finest. 😉 Did Adaleen cheat Rhonda? 😕 It looked like the money was all in 1s; I doubt Rhonda would think to count it herself. Things don’t look good for Alby. His mother is out for revenge and she knows all about his “hobby”;). ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064/28 "2009-02-11T05:15:20Z")
This may be a stupid question, but waiting so long between seasons, you tend to forget a few basic things. When exactly did Barb become so gung-ho about the polygamy thing? I seem to recall she entered into it reluctantly after her original go-round with cancer (and not being able to have any more children). Now she’s all over Ana? ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064/29 "2009-02-11T14:49:06Z")
> [@zuma](#): > > This may be a stupid question, but waiting so long between seasons, you tend to forget a few basic things. When exactly did Barb become so gung-ho about the polygamy thing? I seem to recall she entered into it reluctantly after her original go-round with cancer (and not being able to have any more children). Now she’s all over Ana? Remember when Roman’s wife Adaleen had a talk with Barb last season? About how the first wife could either take matters in hand and stay in charge, or continue to protest and be reluctant, and a more ambitious wife would overtake her. (Apparently Adaleen isn’t Roman’s first wife, but the earlier wives were less ambitious.) From that point on Barb has begun to steer events rather than just let them happen to her. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064/30 "2009-02-11T15:42:32Z")
What was the phrase they used for having seven wives? ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064/31 "2009-02-11T15:43:40Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > What was the phrase they used for having seven wives? Quorum! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rube_E.Tewesday)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064/32 "2009-02-11T15:44:25Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > What was the phrase they used for having seven wives? “Quorum” I don’t get it either. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064/33 "2009-02-11T18:00:50Z")
[This article briefly talks about a “quorum” in the FLDS:](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deborah-king/warren-jeffs-gives-12-yea_b_103666.html?page=2&show_comment_id=13308379#comment_13308379) > [@](#): > > It’s vitally important in the FLDS culture for a man to have at least a Quorum of wives (3 is the minimum) in order to enjoy the benefits of the heavenly kingdom; he really needs at least seven wives to be considered an important member of the priesthood and the community. The show doesn’t seem to use “quorum” the same way (and various cites were inconsistent about this as well), but that seems to be the basic idea–Bill only needs three wives to “live the Principle”, but he’d need at least seven if he wanted to be a real part of the UEB leadership. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064/34 "2009-02-11T18:04:28Z")
I think this may have been the best episode of any television drama ever aired. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064/35 "2009-02-11T18:26:03Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > I think this may have been the best episode of any television drama ever aired. Well, given that it was not an episode of **The Wire** , I can’t quite agree. But it was damn good. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064/36 "2009-02-11T22:33:11Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > Who, Barb’s mom and Lois? > > I wonder if she called her “sister” because the two were connected via church previously. Was Barb brought up Mormon? (Wikipedia doesn’t say) I would assume she was… She was. Barb mentioned that her great-grandfather was a polygamist. Her mother and father had a temple marriage (sealed for all eternity). Her mother then had that sealing canceled in order to remarry. Barb was suprised and upset by this (Barb’s sister didn’t seem all that happy either). I wonder if Nikki will keep working at the DA’s office after this. She actually seemed to enjoy working outside the home and the rest of the family knows she’s working. On the other hand they don’t know where she’s working or that she’s stolen Margie’s identity ;). The longer she works there the more she runs the risk of being found out which could land her, Bill, Adaleen, & even Roman in jail. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064/37 "2009-02-12T03:08:58Z")
Bill’s becoming creepier and creepier. God, he’s as manipulative as Roman. Why was the DA so happy about Bill getting Alby to denounce Roman? That’s not going to sink their case. Especially if they can’t even establish how old their witness was. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064/38 "2009-02-12T20:24:20Z")
I still don’t see why Ana is here. Seriously, why didn’t she get the hell out of dodge when she found out Bill likes to watch the Weather Channel? And are there really people like that gay man married to that straight woman? Does that happen? ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064/39 "2009-02-13T00:25:09Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > I still don’t see why Ana is here. Seriously, why didn’t she get the hell out of dodge when she found out Bill likes to watch the Weather Channel? > > And are there really people like that gay man married to that straight woman? Does that happen? I think Ana is still there because of Barb. Or rather, because of what Barb said to her about how important and meaningful the Principle is to them. I think that pushed her into seriously dating the bunch of them–if it were due to Bill’s charms, or being all buddy-buddy with Margie, it would have happened a long time ago. Ana strikes me as the sort of person who has been rather anchorless for a long time and is ready for her life to have some purpose and meaning, even if she’s not really sure what that purpose and meaning ought to be. If you give a person in that state the sort of speech Barb gave her, and gave it a few days to get under her skin… And yeah, there are people who are “reformed” gays and are married to either straight people or another “reformed” gay of the opposite sex. They’re pretty rare even in evangelical Christian circles, enough so that the kids from the polygamist family were weirded out by it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-2-9-09/485064.md?page=1)