# Big Love 3-19-06 (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 20, 2006, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091 "2006-03-20T04:30:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091/1 "2006-03-20T04:30:10Z")
A little more jealousy conflict running between the wives. Personally, I find the lifestyle such a foreign concept I have a hard time relating. However, in my fantasy world of multiple spouses, Margie would have joined in when discovering Bill & Nickie in her bed instead of letting the green jealousy monster take over and causing conflict. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091/2 "2006-03-20T05:39:28Z")
I found it interesting. Of course there will be some issues with multiple wives, and the Nickie-Margie dynamic is going to probably be big during the series. However, the interesting part is the whole Roman thing. Nickie being Roman’s daughter is only going to make it more interesting. Wonder how she’ll take it when she finds out that Bill is trying to isolate himself from Roman. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091/3 "2006-03-20T14:14:29Z")
Does anyone else think the producers are setting us up for a gay storyline involving the son? His friend seems to have a crush on him. ---
**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091/4 "2006-03-20T14:21:18Z")
Yeah, I definitely think the son is gay. There was also an interesting under-the-table exchange between two of Bill’s friend’s wives during the card party. This show could get really interesting. I don’t really relate to the lifestyle at all either, but I think that’s what makes it so fascinating to me. I just can’t stop thinking about it. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091/5 "2006-03-20T14:46:58Z")
> [@yellowval](#): > > This show could get really interesting. It _could_ get interesting, and I hope to hell it does soon. Right now, to me, it just plays as : He has sex. He has lots and lots and lots of sex, with the help of Viagara. Oh, and his wives are jealous of one another, and there’s some stuff going on with Juniper Creek. Then again, I don’t really NEED to be staying up until 11 on Sunday nights, so maybe I shouldn’t hope to get interested in it. > [@ISiddiqui](#): > > Nickie being Roman’s daughter is only going to make it more interesting. Wonder how she’ll take it when she finds out that Bill is trying to isolate himself from Roman. I assumed that she already knew this, given that they moved away. Am I mistaken? I admit to not paying as much attention as I could. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091/6 "2006-03-20T15:01:50Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > I assumed that she already knew this, given that they moved away. Am I mistaken? I admit to not paying as much attention as I could. They moved away, but I’m quite sure she doesn’t know how much the rift is between Bill and Roman. She probably thinks boss lady is behind them not going up to the compound as often, but I don’t think she suspects Bill of being behind it. ---
**Author:** ![iluvurmom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iluvurmom/32/7276_2.png) [@iluvurmom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iluvurmom)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091/7 "2006-03-20T15:13:54Z")
okay, so I missed it last night…thank gawd for tivo…for the sound of it it sounds like it was pretty kick ass. Did you all find that you liked this episode as much/more than the first one?? I get the feeling I’m going to like it more an dmore as the show goes on and as the characters become more and more dynamic. Okay, but anyway - dich… ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091/8 "2006-03-20T15:23:41Z")
Oh, and to add to my prior point… remember Bill was already in Salt Lake (being left there at 14 by his dad) when Roman married off his daughter to him. So at that point, I don’t think Bill was trying to isolate Roman. Though I think there is an interesting story in how Bill decided to get a second wife. ---
**Author:** ![unwashed\_brain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a9adbd/32.png) [@unwashed\_brain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unwashed_brain)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091/9 "2006-03-20T15:33:29Z")
I’m not liking this show very much. I haven’t found much to like or even compelling about any of the characters, and the majority of the cast (except maybe Jeanne Tripplehorn) has been guilty of some seriously bad acting. I may give it one more episode just because it’s HBO, but I’d be tuning out already if this was on a network. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091/10 "2006-03-20T17:59:21Z")
I really liked this episode. The stuff with the son and his friend kind of confused me. Which one is the son? The kid with the boner? Or the other kid. I thought it was the other kid but I thought it was weird that he was sleeping on the floor. And straight teenage boys don’t interact way. So that’s either forshadowing some gayness there or the show’s creators just showed how gay they are. I like how they are playing Margie. Have they said how old she is? Maturity-wise seems at the same level as the teenaged daughter. I really liked the scene with Bill praying and then going in to set it right with Margie. And the tag of the scene being that Margie still asks for a car. I was also confused by the scene with him and his dad in the hospital. Didn’t Bill say that Roman was trying to do his dad in, but then immediately they started talking about Bills mom trying to kill him. It’s clear from the “last time on” and the focusing on the drink Roman brought for the dad that’s its Roman trying to kill him (I predicted that right last week). So does Bill still think his mom is trying to kill his dad or is he getting wise to it being Roman? And when Bill was abandoned in Salt Lake he referred to the stuff he was forced to do. Did anyone else think that he prostituted himself? That seems like a played out angle for them to go with. So how about that creative editing in the preview for next week? They use enough quick cuts to give the impression that Bill walks in on Nickie blowing her dad. Interesting to see if they go with that. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091/11 "2006-03-20T18:15:41Z")
I think that Roman is trying to kill the dad to so that Bill has to spend more time at Juniper Creek. I like this episode better than the last one but if this thing doesn’t improve by the half way point, I’m bailing. ---
**Author:** ![RogueRacer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RogueRacer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RogueRacer)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091/12 "2006-03-20T18:31:33Z")
Put me in the give it one more week camp too. I’m a little depressed that I’m getting this instead of a third season of Carnivale. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091/13 "2006-03-20T19:11:39Z")
> [@Push You Down](#): > > I really liked this episode. > > The stuff with the son and his friend kind of confused me. Which one is the son? The kid with the boner? Or the other kid. I thought it was the other kid but I thought it was weird that he was sleeping on the floor. And straight teenage boys don’t interact way. So that’s either forshadowing some gayness there or the show’s creators just showed how gay they are. The one with the boner is Bill’s son. He was the one in the front seat with the girl trying to hit on him. > [@Push You Down](#): > > I like how they are playing Margie. Have they said how old she is? Maturity-wise seems at the same level as the teenaged daughter. > > I really liked the scene with Bill praying and then going in to set it right with Margie. And the tag of the scene being that Margie still asks for a car. If I remember correctly, Margie is somewhere in her early 20s. I think she’s 21. I loved that scene with Margie and Bill, too. Maybe she’s learning a thing or two from Nickie? > [@Push You Down](#): > > I was also confused by the scene with him and his dad in the hospital. Didn’t Bill say that Roman was trying to do his dad in, but then immediately they started talking about Bills mom trying to kill him. It’s clear from the “last time on” and the focusing on the drink Roman brought for the dad that’s its Roman trying to kill him (I predicted that right last week). So does Bill still think his mom is trying to kill his dad or is he getting wise to it being Roman? I think Bill is beginning to suspect Roman, but his dad thinks it was his mother. Did anyone else think Bill’s dad was trying to imply that Bill and his mother were working together to poison him? > [@Push You Down](#): > > And when Bill was abandoned in Salt Lake he referred to the stuff he was forced to do. Did anyone else think that he prostituted himself? That seems like a played out angle for them to go with. That’s exactly what I thought. > [@Push You Down](#): > > So how about that creative editing in the preview for next week? They use enough quick cuts to give the impression that Bill walks in on Nickie blowing her dad. Interesting to see if they go with that. Again, that’s exactly what I thought. I wonder how Bill would react to something like that? Nickie just might get her manipulative butt sent back to the compound. The other thought I had is that she’s blowing Bill’s son (the one with the boner). ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091/14 "2006-03-20T19:12:07Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > Though I think there is an interesting story in how Bill decided to get a second wife. They alluded to part of the story. Barb got sick and can no longer have kids. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091/15 "2006-03-20T19:34:17Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > They alluded to part of the story. Barb got sick and can no longer have kids. Yeah, but as Barb said “It’s more complicated” than her simply allowing Bill to get a new wife. ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091/16 "2006-03-20T20:19:09Z")
> [@Push You Down](#): > > I really liked this episode. Ditto. They’re starting to really flesh out the characters. > [@](#): > > I was also confused by the scene with him and his dad in the hospital. Didn’t Bill say that Roman was trying to do his dad in, but then immediately they started talking about Bills mom trying to kill him. It’s clear from the “last time on” and the focusing on the drink Roman brought for the dad that’s its Roman trying to kill him (I predicted that right last week). So does Bill still think his mom is trying to kill his dad or is he getting wise to it being Roman? I think he still suspects his mom. What amazes me is that Bruce Dern’s character isn’t wise to it being Roman. > [@](#): > > So how about that creative editing in the preview for next week? They use enough quick cuts to give the impression that Bill walks in on Nickie blowing her dad. Interesting to see if they go with that. That’s what I thought, too! “HOLY CRAP!” But it may be someone else entirely. Also, the vibe I got from Margie hugging the boys in the kitchen and bending over for Bill’s friend when she was handing out the coffee in that little baby doll dress is that she’s looking for validation from anything male. > [@RogueRacer](#): > > Put me in the give it one more week camp too. I’m a little depressed that I’m getting this instead of a third season of Carnivale. ☹ I was listening to the SF Chronicle’s TV critic Tim Goodman talking about the show this morning. [Here’s](http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/03/10/DDGS4HL6JO11.DTL) his review of it. > [@](#): > > “Big Love,” like the epic “Rome” before it, rolls out slowly. The audience needs patience. And that’s perhaps the greatest perk that HBO enjoys. Since subscribers have already paid for the service, they have more patience for complicated, grown-up television. This morning he said “Hang in there, the little nuggets you’ve seen so far do expand and the show gets more and more engaging. The story line builds.” ---
**Author:** ![Greywolf73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d9b06d/32.png) [@Greywolf73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greywolf73)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091/17 "2006-03-20T20:22:54Z")
> [@yellowval](#): > > Again, that’s exactly what I thought. I wonder how Bill would react to something like that? Nickie just might get her manipulative butt sent back to the compound. The other thought I had is that she’s blowing Bill’s son (the one with the boner). I kind of wondered that myself but what I found interesting is Margie telling Bill’s son to pick her up and twirl her around in that teensy little nightgown she had on. That seemed more than a little odd. Of course, I guess with all that amazing sex she’d just gotten she wasn’t thinking too clearly. And if he married Nicki because Barb couldn’t have any more children, why did he go ahead and marry a third wife? Will be interesting to see the backstories on Nicki and Margie. Does that backyard pool bother anyone else besides me? Every time they show that big pool a few feet from all three backdoors of their houses, I cringe and wonder why in the world they didn’t build a fence around it with all the small children running around. Then I tell myself to get a grip because it’s a TV show. :rolleyes: I wonder if that’ll factor into a storyline later on? ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091/18 "2006-03-20T20:26:06Z")
> [@Greywolf73](#): > > Does that backyard pool bother anyone else besides me? Every time they show that big pool a few feet from all three backdoors of their houses, I cringe and wonder why in the world they didn’t build a fence around it with all the small children running around. Then I tell myself to get a grip because it’s a TV show. :rolleyes: I wonder if that’ll factor into a storyline later on? Hmmm… in the first show, at the end, with Bill sitting by the pool, there WAS a fence (not “I think”, but “there was”, I saw it last night again). Maybe they put it up when they remember? > [@Maureen](#): > > What amazes me is that Bruce Dern’s character isn’t wise to it being Roman. Maybe he doesn’t want to believe it, since they apparently have known each other for so long. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091/19 "2006-03-20T20:30:55Z")
I’ll stick with the show. It makes me jittery. Nobody reacts the way I expect them to, and it keeps me on edge. I like that. And Grace Zabriskie’s phone calls to Paxton remind me of some mother threads I’ve read here. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RogueRacer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RogueRacer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RogueRacer)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091/20 "2006-03-20T20:45:27Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > I think he still suspects his mom. What amazes me is that Bruce Dern’s character isn’t wise to it being Roman. I’m wondering how much of that is an act. He gave that drink from Roman some pretty significant looks. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-love-3-19-06-spoilers/349091.md?page=2)