# Big sucking void of pain that is Buffy. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 10, 2001, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-sucking-void-of-pain-that-is-buffy/86509 "2001-10-10T04:23:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-sucking-void-of-pain-that-is-buffy/86509/141 "2001-10-23T06:11:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by PatrickM \* > \*\*That should be their problem, not Buffy’s. Let 'em get jobs for Pete’s sake. Just because they’re powerful witches doesn’t mean they get to mooch. Have Willow conjure up some cold hard cash. \*\* OK, that is a fifth possibility. Willow conjures money, rationalizing that it is to help Buffy, when it actually is just another step toward the Dark Side. ---
**Author:** ![lolagranola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ea5d25/32.png) [@lolagranola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lolagranola)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-sucking-void-of-pain-that-is-buffy/86509/142 "2001-10-23T12:13:37Z")
> [@](#): > > …a black woman from England whose name I don’t recall… That would be Olivia. I think the last episode she was in was Hush. ---
**Author:** ![Peta\_Tzunami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b487fb/32.png) [@Peta\_Tzunami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peta_Tzunami)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-sucking-void-of-pain-that-is-buffy/86509/143 "2001-10-23T12:35:56Z")
Just a note, Jenny **Calendar** , who was a descendent of the gypsies who cursed Angel in the first place. Do we get to count Druscilla for their make-out scene? 😉 Regarding Olivia, I don’t know if it counts as a “last appearance” but she was present in the dreams of the season four finale. “Hush” would be the last time Olivia was physically present in Sunnydale. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2001, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-sucking-void-of-pain-that-is-buffy/86509/144 "2001-10-23T15:38:18Z")
> [@](#): > > Just a note, Jenny Calendar, who was a descendent of the gypsies who cursed Angel in the first place. I knew that. Sheesh. I was so worried I had her first name wrong I screwed the pooch on the last name. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2001, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-sucking-void-of-pain-that-is-buffy/86509/145 "2001-10-28T00:23:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Otto \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > Why has poor Giles only ever gotten one love interest? That hardly seems fair…Someone else should have made him squirm! > > I can think of three “love interests,” or at least sex interests for Giles. Jenny Valentine, a black woman from England whose name I don’t recall, and Joyce \*\* Sorry, I lost this thread… I was going to say though, that we must have different ideas of what consitutes a love interest. By my own personal definition, a love interest is someone the character has a well developed romantic relationship with. The british woman who was in all of one episode doesn’t meet that, nor does Joyce since there was nothing romantic about their relationship (friendly, yes, but zero chemistry.) So…he only had one, Jenny, and it’s still not fair. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2001, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-sucking-void-of-pain-that-is-buffy/86509/146 "2001-10-28T00:37:26Z")
Not only that, I’ve just seen the episode where it is revealed who Jenny really is! WAH!!! I would so do Giles! Hot, hot, hot. Super tasty. Yum. ---
**Author:** ![andygirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@andygirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andygirl)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2001, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-sucking-void-of-pain-that-is-buffy/86509/147 "2001-10-28T01:09:15Z")
Olivia has been in three episodes, all of them in Season 4. I know that two of them are Hush and Restless, and I think the third is The Freshman, but I’m not sure. ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2001, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-sucking-void-of-pain-that-is-buffy/86509/148 "2001-10-28T06:17:32Z")
> [@](#): > > Kyla: The Lost Boys was set in Santa Clara, or maybe Santa Carla. Anyway, it wasn’t Santa Cruz. They changed the name to Santa Carla, but that’s all. The movie was filmed in Santa Cruz and it does a nice job of capturing the oddness of the town. There’s a part where someone asks “How are you liking Santa Carla so far?” and the kid (Corey Haim?) answers “It’s really cool…if you’re from Mars!” Probably the city council wouldn’t let the filmmakers use the real name. Oh yeah…Buffy. I like Buffy. Good show. Watch FX reruns, Angel’s about to go evil! Angelus is an excellent villain, I’m already freaked out in anticipation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-sucking-void-of-pain-that-is-buffy/86509.md?page=7)