Notre Dame is going to have to join a conference if thisngs shake like they seem to be headed. I just don’t see how they can remain independent in light of these super conferences. Which means the Big 10 because it is the best regional fit and also the best fit with the rivalries (Michigan and Michigan State and Purdue).
I really hope this happens one way or another.
Shoot, as a Coug fan, the thought of Oregon State walking into your stadium is worth an :eek:
Sorry, gratuitous cheap shot. 
Missouri and Nebraska are getting ultimatums, so I just read in ESPN. Missouri ,I can see, but at Nebraska the N on their helmets stands for nowledge.
The reality of it is the PAC-10 wants Texas. To get Texas, they may have to take all 4 Texas teams from the Big 12.
And Stanford and California don’t have much to bitch about…look in their own conference backyard at Oregon. Besides the individual schools don’t have a say-so anymore. They gave the Pac-10 director the power to make the decisions and he’s pretty much said, whatever the Texas legislature wants, as long as it includes UT.
Besides the PAC-10 expansion is really moot if Nebraska agrees to stay committed to the Big 12, then the Big 12 renegotiates their existing TV contracts and then they expand themselves. This probably includes a separate TV contract for UT by themselves.
The more I think about it, the more I like. Especially if I’m wrong about the 2 teams/state limit, and we could get Florida State, Miami, Ga Tech, and Clemson or VT.
All my shameless SEC homerism aside, those teams could walk in to the SEC and be competitive from the start. SEC fans would see more quality games per year, and the SEC Championship is still going to be meaningful in BCS considerations.
Also like the idea of the PAC 16, which looks to be a much stronger football conference than the PAC 10. The Texas schools are a major boost in terms of strength of schedule. I shall, of course, always maintain that all conferences are inferior to the sublime perfection of the SEC, but that’s just how I roll.
I think Oregon’s a pretty decent academic school (Animal House notwithstanding). It’s the Arizona schools where you can major in keg stands.
The five ACC teams listed are consistently on top the admittedly weak ACC conference in football.
I may have a little bit of bias, but my alma mater, GT, probably brings the most to the SEC in the other sports. Tech fields consistently competitive teams in CBB, Womens B-Ball, baseball, softball, womens volleyball which are the most high profile sports outside of CFB.
And FWIW to the SEC :dubious:, they are the best academically of the 5 schools, with Virginia Tech a near 2nd.
Virginia Tech, Clemson, and FSU are the ones that bring SEC type passion on Football Saturdays, which Ga Tech admittedly does not. And neither does Miami.
I still get sick at my stomach when I see that clip. Just exactly WTF was the conclusive evidence that an OU player touched the ball? And why doesn’t who recovered the ball matter? :mad::mad:
I’m all for a Pac-16. I’d like to see the Pac-8 teams have to face Texas every few years.
Hey, we played the Beavs TOUGH last time they were in town! Only lost by 32… 
University of Oregon is Tier 1 ranked 115th by US News. Also one of only 61 members of the Association of American Universities.
Sadly, I think all of the possible new teams have historically stronger football programs than my beloved Mississippi State Bulldogs. We’re still going to be struggling for bowl eligibility this year, but might get to something like the “Shown on ESPN at 2:00 AM because We’re Out of White Guys Boxing Footage Bowl” or something.
Lets assume for a minute that Ga Tech, Clemson, FSU, and Miami join the SEC.
I would guess that the SEC would still have 2 divisions, but all 4 teams added would naturally fit geographically into the East Division. Possibly FSU to the West.
Assuming the SEC want to keep a geographical divisions, how would they line up. Keep in mind that they would also want to keep rivalries like UF/LSU, Tenn/Bama, and UGA/Auburn playing every year. And the new “SEC” rivalries like UF/FSU, FSU/Miami, UGA/GT, and Clemson/USC
My initial guess: (with two annual rivalries from teams the other Division):
SEC South
LSU (Ark, KY)
FSU (Clemson, Ark)
UF (UGA, Tenn)
Miami (GT, Clemson)
MSU (Vandy, GT)
Miss (KY, USC)
Aub (UGA, USC)
Bama (Tenn, Vandy)
SEC North
UGA (Aub, UF)
GT (Miami, MSU)
Clem (Miami, FSU)
USC (Miss, Aub)
Tenn (Bama, UF)
Vandy (Bama, MSU)
KY (Miss, LSU)
ARK (LSU, FSU)
Furthermore, I think the SEC should go to 9 conference football games with 6 within their division, and 3 from the other division.
3 of the intra-divsion games should be hard-coded while the other three games would rotate amongst the four other teams.
And two of the three inter-division would be “hard-coded” while the other game rotates amongst the other 6 teams.
For instance,
Florida would play LSU, FSU, Aub, UGA, Tenn every year.
Bama would play Aub, LSU, Miss, Tenn, Vandy every year.
UGA would play Tenn, GT, USC, UF, Aub every year.
The down side is that it may suck to be Kansas State. Heard something on ESPN radio about them possibly being left without a conference, or having to join a lesser conference.
K-State’s even smaller than KU, who’s gonna get hosed. One of the premiere basketball schools (and a pretty decent football school of late), and they’ll be left out in the cold. KU, KSU, Colorado and Iowa State may need to pull in some WAC schools to get something together. Dunno what’s going to happen.
Dude, don’t I know it. Looking back on it, its pretty amazing we were in major conference for so long. My biggest hope is that we join the MWC and form a new conference that perhaps gets a BCS bid.
btw from what I hear Nebraska is gone on Friday, and then all of the dominoes will start falling.
As long as we’re discussing CFB rumors, apparently the NCAA hammer will fall on USC today. Whether it’s a sledge hammer or an inflatable rubber clown hammer remains to be seen.
Watching College Football Live last night on ESPN2, the talking heads were saying that everything hinges on Notre Dame and whether or not they make the move to the Big 10 Conference.
Notre Dame likes things like they are right now, (Independent in Football, Big East everything else) but if they do not make a move, the dominoes start to fall.
But if Notre Dame joins the Big 10:
So it looks likes Notre Dame is damned if they do, damned if they don’t .
And jsc1953, the NCAA hammer on USC was supposed to fall last week. Why is it taking so long?
God only knows; I sure don’t. But we Cal fans have been rubbing our hands together with glee for months now. (yeah, yeah, I know…but schadenfreude is the only kind of freude we get)
FWIW, the talking heads at ESPN also opined that Missouri football program may go downhill if they defect to the Big 10. Mizzou’s recent “success” :dubious: has been built on talent from the state of Texas. They doubt if they can successfully recruit in Texas if Mizzou no longer belongs to the a conference that includes Texas teams.
So I’m a Texas high school football star, and I’m perfectly happy to play for Missouri, so long as I can play against Texas Tech and A&M. But if I play for Missouri against Indiana and Michigan, all bets are off?
I’m not sure I follow the logic, but then I’m not a Texan.