# Biggest Horse's Ass in Rock&Roll History?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 31, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883 "2009-01-31T17:42:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883/21 "2009-02-01T03:51:16Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Joe Cocker

“Joe Cocker but _please_ don’t hurt her!”

Letterman’s infamous introduction of Cocker many, many years ago. Apparently, Cocker was mightily pissed about it, too.

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**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883/22 "2009-02-01T03:51:24Z")

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Glenn Danzig. There’s a great video on YouTube somewhere of him lipping off to some guy backstage and then being promptly knocked on his ass by him.

Also, Liam Gallagher of Oasis has always been a dick.

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**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883/23 "2009-02-01T06:21:45Z")

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Ike Turner, anyone?

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883/24 "2009-02-01T09:33:01Z")

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“Horse’s Ass” may have different meaning for different interpretations.  
Based on the OP, I think it seems the intended meaning of “Horse’s Ass” for the purposes of this Thread is best expressed as **Tamerlane** defined it: _pretentious douchebaggery_.

Ike Turner was a wife beater.  
Phil Spector has a history of mental cruelty, physical abuse, threatening people with loaded weapons, and quite possibly murder.  
Gary Glitter is at best a child molester\*, possibly a child fucker.

All these go beyond “Horse’s Ass” in my opinion.  
I’d like to nominate Billy Corgan for his tendency to scold audiences for not supplying the reaction he feels he deserves.

Also, because the first sentence of his wiki entry describes him as an “occasional poet”. “Occasional poet” is clearly a euphemism for “Horse’s Ass”.

\*Seriously, anyone who can be described as being “at best” a child molester has to be a major piece of shit.

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**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883/25 "2009-02-01T13:52:22Z")

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Sebastian Bach.

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**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883/26 "2009-02-01T14:20:33Z")

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Axl Rose?

Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth?

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883/27 "2009-02-01T14:30:45Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Joe Cocker

Why?

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**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883/28 "2009-02-01T14:33:19Z")

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Another vote for Gene Simmons.

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**Author:** ![xnylder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/bbce88/32.png) [@xnylder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xnylder)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883/29 "2009-02-01T16:07:39Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Of course, the “Bed-In” was done ironically. The media were completely whooshed. It was certainly dine with a nod and a wink and I think most of John’s fans got the joke. “Hair Peace” and “Bed Peace?” John’s famous sense of humor at work. He was a lot more closely allied with Groucho Marx than with Karl Marx.

Sorry for the derail, but now this is bugging me. How was a “Bed-In” a joke? Light-hearted, I can understand, but a joke as in, there’s wordplay/humorous reference involved? I’m a Montrealer who used to live nearby the Queen Liz Hotel, so I’d like to know more about this.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883/30 "2009-02-01T16:11:14Z")

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> [@Kalhoun](#):
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> Why?

Showing up drunk for his concerts and barfing on stage comes to mind.

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**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883/31 "2009-02-01T16:48:31Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Showing up drunk for his concerts and barfing on stage comes to mind.

I heard (on a local radio show, so who knows) he is terribly shy and anxious prior to live performances. Perhaps he used booze to get ready and over did it? Frankly, I’d give that a pass, even for numerous times given his musical contribution.

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**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883/32 "2009-02-01T17:20:13Z")

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David Cassidy.

Some years ago I took a side job working security during his tour. He treated everyone like dirt, and blamed the audience when he gave a truly bad show.

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**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883/33 "2009-02-01T17:26:59Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> David Cassidy.
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> Some years ago I took a side job working security during his tour. He treated everyone like dirt, and blamed the audience when he gave a truly bad show.

Not the Biggest Horse’s Ass in Rock&Roll History, but the biggest I had to deal with personally.

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**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883/34 "2009-02-01T18:12:36Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> I’d like to nominate Billy Corgan for his tendency to scold audiences for not supplying the reaction he feels he deserves.
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> Also, because the first sentence of his wiki entry describes him as an “occasional poet”. “Occasional poet” is clearly a euphemism for “Horse’s Ass”.

Still giggling about this one. Thank you.

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**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883/35 "2009-02-01T19:17:59Z")

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> [@xnylder](#):
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> Sorry for the derail, but now this is bugging me. How was a “Bed-In” a joke? Light-hearted, I can understand, but a joke as in, there’s wordplay/humorous reference involved? I’m a Montrealer who used to live nearby the Queen Liz Hotel, so I’d like to know more about this.

What I meant was, not that the Bed-In itself was a joke, just that it was carried out in a light-hearted manner as you describe. Maybe I didn’t put that across as well as I should have, but I certainly didn’t intend to bug anybody. Having lived near the hotel, perhaps you’re in a better position to know anything about it than I ever could be.

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**Author:** ![xnylder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/bbce88/32.png) [@xnylder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xnylder)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883/36 "2009-02-01T23:32:48Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> What I meant was, not that the Bed-In itself was a joke, just that it was carried out in a light-hearted manner as you describe. Maybe I didn’t put that across as well as I should have, but I certainly didn’t intend to bug anybody. Having lived near the hotel, perhaps you’re in a better position to know anything about it than I ever could be.

Oh, no, not at all. I just wanted to cure my own ignorance about that time in recent history. Besides, I love the Marx brothers, and was hoping there was some secret joke in there.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883/37 "2009-02-02T00:13:21Z")

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Darby Crash of the punk band, The Germs. He figured that since so many rock immortals achieved massive fame after an overdose death, he would kill himself by taking a huge amount of heroin. He did succeed in killing himself but he chose December 7th, 1980 to do it. His story was buried on the back page because John Lennon will murdered on the same day.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883/38 "2009-02-02T00:15:52Z")

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Ted Nugent.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883/39 "2009-02-02T00:19:07Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Ted Nugent.

Have to give the man credit where it’s due - his kids turned out quite all right.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2009, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-horses-ass-in-rock-roll-history/483883/40 "2009-02-02T03:21:52Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Ted Nugent.

I’ve worked backstage security at two of his shows in the past. While his schtick may be over the top for some, he’s a pretty good guy. He’s never played the rock star card and based on some of the things I’ve seen I wouldn’t call him an asshole. Stubborn, yes. Asshole, no.

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