# Biggest music act “retirement ripoff” ever? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 3, 2020, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840 "2020-01-03T07:00:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840/21 "2020-01-03T23:33:29Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > That proviso has been relaxed in the following years due to lineup changes and natural attrition and is no longer enforced. Well then, I fully expect my grandchildren to attend a Skynyrd show fronted by the yet unborn ‘Unnamed-at-this-time’ Van Zant offspring, somewhere around 2060. ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840/22 "2020-01-03T23:47:04Z")
Cher did a retirement tour also. ---
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840/23 "2020-01-04T00:36:27Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Suing a band over a tour may be legal but it’s really dumb. Not only that but you wouldn’t be a very good fan if you sued them. It would have to be a class action lawsuit AND plaintiffs would have to prove they actually paid to see the show, harder than you think since it was 4-5 years ago and you don’t still have the tickets. Maybe an Attorney General could make a case for false advertising but depending on the band they might not get re-elected! Another legal problem might be legally defining what a “retirement” is. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840/24 "2020-01-04T00:40:06Z")
> [@iamthewalrus\_3](#): > > This is hilarious. How on earth would that come up in court? Maybe they made it up as part of the advertising? It’s illegal to lie in court but, so far as I know, it’s not illegal to lie about being in court. OTOH, if you name your concert “The final tour” or something along those lines, you could claim you were on the final tour. They could even quietly release an album called ‘the final tour’ so they could claim the tour was in support of their new album. ---
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840/25 "2020-01-04T00:42:16Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > In 1982 the Who said it was their first retirement tour. They were correct, they are still touring now. But I don’t have a problem with them continuing to tour. Their latest tour, 38 years later is billed as the “Movin’ On” Tour, which to some may imply a retirement tour. But at this point they are going to sell out arenas and stadiums anyway why continue the silliness? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840/26 "2020-01-04T00:44:10Z")
> [@caligulathegod](#): > > Kiss had a farewell tour in 2000, but it turned out to be an inside joke and the “farewell” was to Peter and Ace, not touring. The question is did Ace and Peter know that? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840/27 "2020-01-04T03:04:29Z")
The fucking Eagles, man. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840/28 "2020-01-04T03:53:17Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > . . . I’ve never heard a word about retiring from Mick or Keith themselves ever. Or Charlie. Charlie cannot be replaced. Bill Wyman could be replaced, obviously, and probably Ronnie, too (not to mention Brian Jones and Mick Taylor), but not Charlie. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840/29 "2020-01-04T04:04:54Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > Or Charlie. Charlie cannot be replaced. Bill Wyman could be replaced, obviously, and probably Ronnie, too (not to mention Brian Jones and Mick Taylor), but not Charlie. Right. That’s why I predict that the end of the Rolling Stones will be announced when either Mick, Keith or Charlie keel over. ---
**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840/30 "2020-01-05T00:35:20Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > Right. That’s why I predict that the end of the Rolling Stones will be announced when either Mick, Keith or Charlie keel over. Their clones should be ready by then. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840/31 "2020-01-05T00:44:35Z")
> [@RioRico](#): > > Their clones should be ready by then. The advanced biology and chemistry to produce a Keith Richards clone has yet to be invented. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840/32 "2020-01-05T00:55:26Z")
[Why it will be Mick or Charlie.](https://awwmemes.com/i/adam-that-is-eve-you-are-to-love-her-for-2375adb198c14f7e96932ae5e893e556) ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840/33 "2020-01-06T04:37:37Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Maybe they made it up as part of the advertising? It’s illegal to lie in court but, so far as I know, it’s not illegal to lie about being in court. > > OTOH, if you name your concert “The final tour” or something along those lines, you could claim you were on the final tour. They could even quietly release an album called ‘the final tour’ so they could claim the tour was in support of their new album. I would honestly love to see one of these lawsuits go forward and have the winning argument from the band be “Of course it was our final tour. Every tour is the final tour until you do another one. Then that one’s the final tour.” ---
**Author:** ![Personal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Personal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Personal)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840/34 "2020-01-06T04:45:07Z")
Could be the promoter said that they’d invest a ton of money into a farewell tour, but the band had to promise they wouldn’t go on the road again in exchange. Just spitballing here. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840/35 "2020-01-06T13:11:46Z")
Cher has retired more than once. She is on tour again now. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840/36 "2020-01-06T13:26:00Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > Right. That’s why I predict that the end of the Rolling Stones will be announced when either Mick, Keith or Charlie keel over. I still remember a line from _Wait, Wait, Don’t Tell Me_: “When Keith Richards dies, if, indeed, he can die,…” ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840/37 "2020-01-06T13:53:21Z")
Darn that Rush. Those three just don’t play by the rules. Hinted that they were getting on in years. Did a tour and then after it was over announced they were done and have consistently not toured since. Stupid Canadians. Keeping their word and all. ---
**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840/38 "2020-01-06T13:59:33Z")
> [@yanceylebeef](#): > > The fucking Eagles, man. Out of my cab! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840/39 "2020-01-06T17:25:00Z")
This is the entertainment equivalent of the Persian rug dealer that has a going-out-of-business sale every year. Caveat emptor. > [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > Deep Purple, OTHOH, are a perfect example for this thread. They went on their farewell tour in 2016 and each year since then extended it into the next year. It is even known as [the Long Goodbye Tour.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Long_Goodbye_Tour) I don’t go to these types of concerts because, as an example, Deep Purple is not what they used to be. If you didn’t see them in 1973 then you will never be able to see them in 1973. You missed your chance. I have their Australia live recording and other than Steve Morse’s fine guitar playing, Ian Gillan is too old to keep doing those types of vocals, and Jon Lord’s chops were disintegrating. And that was 20 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840/40 "2020-01-21T17:56:58Z")
> [@russian\_heel](#): > > Ozzy Osbourne- I attended his “No More Tours” show in 1992. During which he announced he was not retiring… > > In 2018 attended another Ozzy concert, 26 years after he put on his “retirement” concert. And even THIS one was advertised as a “final” tour! It sounds like there will be very few more “final tours” > [@](#): > > Ozzy Osbourne has revealed he has been diagnosed with Parkinson’s disease after a year of health problems. > > During an interview with Good Morning America, the Black Sabbath frontman described 2019 as the “most painful and miserable year” of his life. He said he had been diagnosed with the neurodegenerative disease after experiencing health complications, including needing surgery on his spine and neck, following a fall. > **[Ozzy Osbourne reveals Parkinson's diagnosis](https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/jan/21/ozzy-osbourne-reveals-parkinsons-disease-diagnosis)** > > Black Sabbath frontman, 71, says 2019 was ‘most painful and miserable year’ of his life [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biggest-music-act-retirement-ripoff-ever/845840.md?page=3)