# Bigoted Jackass is One of the Few, the Proud... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 5, 2016, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048 "2016-03-05T22:16:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048/61 "2016-03-07T18:43:01Z")
> [@steatopygia](#): > > Many many MANY moons ago I also enlisted under the delayed entry program. I also changed my mind and backed out. However, I was enlisted and received a formal discharge. I went by bus directly from the recruiting office to a large intake center. There I was given a physical and sworn in. Back on the bus and home. > . > 2 months later my circumstances had changed. They called me, and I told them no. They threatened me with jail and I told them to go for it. They backed down and told me that I could never join again. I was fine with that. I received a formal discharge in the mail. I don’t consider myself ever having been a member of the armed forces. Ah you made it a step farther than me. I made it to the MEPS and did my hearing test, duckwalk etc but I was approximately 3lbs too heavy for my height, and they wouldn’t let me enlist and just work it off before shipping out, or even in basic. (My recruiter had been giving me diets and working out with me for at least a month knowing my weight was a concern). My recruiter was absolutely shocked, I often think about this because at the time I was ready to sign on the dotted line and at 18 unlike you if I changed my mind after signing, the threats would’ve definitely worked on me. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048/62 "2016-03-07T19:17:01Z")
I trust your Guardian Angel deserved a vacation after all that work. Back in the Darker Days, a Marine candidate who beat up a lefty protester and bragged on it probably wouldn’t have had too much of a problem. Behold the wonders of Progress! ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048/63 "2016-03-08T14:34:28Z")
I haven’t seen the video but I have heard conservatives talk about the aversion that hippies have to soap and water. Did this person look like a hippie? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048/64 "2016-03-08T14:36:22Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I trust your Guardian Angel deserved a vacation after all that work. > > Back in the Darker Days, a Marine candidate who beat up a lefty protester and bragged on it probably wouldn’t have had too much of a problem. Behold the wonders of Progress! I’m pretty sure its part of the oath you take when you enlist. You promise not only to defend the right to beat up hippies (its one of the penumbra rights that surround the first and second amendments) but to turn it into an obligation. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048/65 "2016-03-08T14:55:55Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Did this person look like a hippie? No. She was just a slightly chubby young black woman. I would guess college student. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048/66 "2016-03-22T17:26:02Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > [but he’s no longer a Marine](http://news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-supporter-verbally-harassed-220800881.html?nf=1)! He never was a Marine. He had only enlisted to try to become one. Sorry, loser. You’re not Marine material. You’re barely human material. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048/67 "2016-03-22T18:44:38Z")
You didn’t read the whole thread, did you? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048/68 "2016-03-22T20:24:17Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > He never was a Marine. He had only enlisted to try to become one. Sorry, loser. You’re not Marine material. You’re barely human material. I knew hundreds of Marines throughout my career. Many of them were barely human material. It’s not a job requirement. All the recent adoration aside, people in the military aren’t all that different from anybody else when it comes to prejudices and bigotry. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048/69 "2016-03-23T00:40:52Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > The guy chose to feature the image on his own facebook page. Sounds like the kind of Marine who would moon the enemy and get shot in the ass. Good thing the idiot is out of the Corps. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048/70 "2016-03-23T05:00:50Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > He never was a Marine. He had only enlisted to try to become one. Sorry, loser. You’re not Marine material. You’re barely human material. What a complete sphincter you’ve proven yourself to be! ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048/71 "2016-03-23T07:27:04Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > What a complete sphincter you’ve proven yourself to be! What are you talking about? What the fuck is wrong with you? It’s not my fault you fucked up the definition of a Marine. Yes, I posted my comment before reading the whole thread and if I had, I’d have seen that many people before me had already pointed out how wrong you were. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048/72 "2016-03-23T10:22:53Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > What are you talking about? What the fuck is wrong with you? It’s not my fault you fucked up the definition of a Marine. > > Yes, I posted my comment before reading the whole thread and if I had, I’d have seen that many people before me had already pointed out how wrong you were. What’s wrong with me? On re-reading your post, I can see that you may have been referring to the recently discharged from DEP wannabe Marine. But it very well could be taken that you were directing that comment to me. How about a bit more clarity. And speaking of clarity, what’s the law on the matter? I buy that the USMC doesn’t want to call DEPer Marines, but everything I’ve seen so far legally shows that they are, in fact, in the USMC. Yeah, nobody’s ever been court-martialed for not showing up, but that’s not the nub here. The question now is: What is the law; is someone in the DEP in the Armed Forces? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048/73 "2016-03-23T10:28:37Z")
Speaking of law, until the early 1980s, time spent in the DEP was credited for determining a service member’s pay entry date. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048/74 "2016-03-23T10:46:19Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > What’s wrong with me? On re-reading your post, I can see that you may have been referring to the recently discharged from DEP wannabe Marine. But it very well could be taken that you were directing that comment to me. How about a bit more clarity. Forgot to type something. **I Love Me, Vol. I** : If you, in fact, were directing the derogatory comment at the DEPer, of course I apologize for my derogatory comment directed at you. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048/75 "2016-03-23T11:02:30Z")
Yeah, he was pretty clearly referring to the proto-jarhead with that, **Monty**. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048/76 "2016-03-23T13:47:54Z")
Yeah, it was clear. You’re 0 for 2 in this thread, **Monty** - though your underlying premise was correct (fuck the DEP guy). ---
**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048/77 "2016-03-23T16:43:36Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Yeah, it was clear. You’re 0 for 2 in this thread, **Monty** - though your underlying premise was correct (fuck the DEP guy). He’s sensitive because he erroneously chose to die on the hill of DEPers being service members, and he’s now resorted to flailing about and calling people names who aren’t even referring to him. A better way to save face would’ve been to admit a small misunderstanding of the DEP program and move on, but he’s desperately angling for some kind of ‘win’. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048/78 "2016-03-23T17:21:32Z")
Both sides of this argument are ridiculously tiresome. Just fucking let it go. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048/79 "2016-03-23T17:34:05Z")
Exactly. No one fucking cares. Stop already. I don’t know how it is these days, but when I was young back in the dark ages of the late 70’s, the only guys who ended up in the Marines were guys who really had zero prospects of doing anything else and weren’t known for being particularly bright. Now, I’m not saying that is all or even a sizable minority of the Marines today, but those were the type of guys I knew who went into the Marines back then. If any of them had done something like this, I don’t think anyone would be particularly surprised at their lack of intelligence and awareness of consequences. ---
**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048/80 "2016-03-23T18:29:20Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Exactly. No one fucking cares. Stop already. > > I don’t know how it is these days, but when I was young back in the dark ages of the late 70’s, the only guys who ended up in the Marines were guys who really had zero prospects of doing anything else and weren’t known for being particularly bright. Now, I’m not saying that is all or even a sizable minority of the Marines today, but those were the type of guys I knew who went into the Marines back then. If any of them had done something like this, I don’t think anyone would be particularly surprised at their lack of intelligence and awareness of consequences. The 70s had some dirtbags - post Vietnam, ending of the draft and the Carter era did not really work as a great time for recruiting. Once Reagan came into office, however, the Corps saw a difference in recruiting. As my Gunny put it “Late 70s, I couldn’t get guys to even PT half the time. It was the end of the draftees finishing up their obligation, and the dirtbags we were taking. By the mid-80s, the new breed were waking me up in the morning to get going.” I don’t know where they are right now in recruiting, but I have heard from my son that a couple of his friends were turned away and told to see the Army next door. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigoted-jackass-is-one-of-the-few-the-proud/748048.md?page=5)