# BigThanks to BigT!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 5, 2011, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482 "2011-01-05T14:24:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/61 "2011-01-08T07:51:30Z")

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God damn, you’re a sanctimonious wimp. Man up.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/62 "2011-01-08T07:57:58Z")

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Oh Jeez, you have to get all reasonable and apologize?? Well, FUCK YOU and your rationality and niceness. And fuck puppies and kittens too!

Oooh, new shoe brand name – Fuck Puppies. That’s a million dollar idea, right there.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/63 "2011-01-08T13:21:57Z")

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See, I’d really like to start an MPSIMS thread about what we’re going through with my Evil Brother the Sociopath, who just put up another manipulative suicide attempt, and what it’s doing to my dad, but I just do not want to have to deal with the bullshit I’d get from people who think they know better than I do that of course he couldn’t possibly be an evil sack of shit, he’s a human being in pain and dear me, Z, you’re a heartless fucking monster! So I haven’t.

And that “I just had to post in my own Pit thread without admitting reading it to show you how Evolved I am” was _hilarious._

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/64 "2011-01-08T14:30:19Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I really hate having to do this, but I must: I cannot read this thread. By the length of the thread and the author (and the subject for which the author has a legitimate gripe), I know it is going to be quite heated, and I cannot take the risk that I would hold grudges against any of you. While I know this would be wrong, I also know my limitations.
> 
> But this thread does deserve a response. I have been graudally becoming that which I hate: an asshole. I don’t believe my opinions are necessarily wrong, but the way I’ve been expressing them has been. I get angry, and I lose my judgment.
> 
> I do still believe that **lorene** should not have brought Claude Remains past posting history into an MPSIMS thread. But I also know that she has had a bad experience with child molestation–likely being molested herself. So, while it’s wrong, it’s still understandable. And that’s what I should have said, and not what I did. I am sorry.
> 
> Based on the length of this thread, I have to assume that other people are bringing up past grievances. Again, all I can offer is an apology. I believe it is wrong to hurt people, and yet I have been hurting people. Again, I am sorry.
> 
> I can hope (whether realistically or not) that there are people defending me in this thread. I thank them. I think it more likely that any non-attack posts are people offering constructive criticism. While I also thank them, I appologize that I will not be able to read them. If we had a forum where people could offer constructive criticism without the insults, I might be able to take it. But not here.
> 
> While I object to where **Guinistasia** told me this, I do agree that, if you can’t take something, you should just stay out. I think avoiding the entire Pit is overkill, but I do need to start avoiding threads in all forums that turn into pile-ons–at least until I can not be a jerk in response.
> 
> And, yes, I’m aware I’m going to be made fun of for this post. So be it.
> 
> If anyone was hoping I’d be leaving, I am not. And I have to admit that I am not sorry for that.😛

Jeezus, will you _shut the fuck up_, you sanctimonious twat?

Lorene was 100% right to bring up a poster’s past history–nobody posts in a vacuum.

You posting how you’re not gonna read the thread because you’re a pussy or something just makes you even more of one.

Just…shut _UP_.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/65 "2011-01-08T15:06:42Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I really hate having to do this, but I must: I cannot read this thread.

You are full of shit. You have read every fucking line of this thread. Stop trying to pretend to some moral high ground, you are too retarded for that to work.

> [@](#):
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> By the length of the thread and the author (and the subject for which the author has a legitimate gripe), I know it is going to be quite heated, and I cannot take the risk that I would hold grudges against any of you. While I know this would be wrong, I also know my limitations.

**Bigt** , You may not realise it but, grudges, for lack of a better word, are good. Grudges are right, Grudges work. A grudge clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Grudges, in all of their forms; Grudges for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And a grudge, you mark my words, will not only save **Bigt** , but that other malfunctioning corporation called the SDMB. Thank you very much.

> [@](#):
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> But this thread does deserve a response. I have been graudally becoming that which I hate: an asshole. I don’t believe my opinions are necessarily wrong, but the way I’ve been expressing them has been. I get angry, and I lose my judgment.

Perspective. Self-awareness. Contrast. All these things you lack.

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> Based on the length of this thread, I have to assume that other people are bringing up past grievances. Again, all I can offer is an apology. I believe it is wrong to hurt people, and yet I have been hurting people. Again, I am sorry.

Ah, was this where you play the martyr card? You have been hurting people? Jesus christ in a pink treehut, get over yourself. I know this message board “is your life” and all that, but it is just a message board. And you are just a weenie. Go outside weenie.

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> I can hope (whether realistically or not) that there are people defending me in this thread. I thank them. I think it more likely that any non-attack posts are people offering constructive criticism. While I also thank them, I appologize that I will not be able to read them. If we had a forum where people could offer constructive criticism without the insults, I might be able to take it. But not here.
> 
> While I object to where **Guinistasia** told me this, I do agree that, if you can’t take something, you should just stay out. I think avoiding the entire Pit is overkill, but I do need to start avoiding threads in all forums that turn into pile-ons–at least until I can not be a jerk in response.

What a load of horseshit. Fucking weenie.

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> If anyone was hoping I’d be leaving, I am not. And I have to admit that I am not sorry for that.😛

Not leaving? Leaving the house? You really should you know.

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**Author:** ![lindsaybluth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90db22/32.png) [@lindsaybluth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsaybluth)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/66 "2011-01-08T17:31:17Z")

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What I like best is that he apologizes for hurting people. You didn’t hurt anyone, dude, you’re a fucking moron. Apologize for being stupid and working to rectify that and we’ll move on.

Also, he needs to stop participating in any threads about human interaction whatsoever. Post about food, books, movies, etc…but anything remotely about the way people interact is bullshit. He never leaves the house!

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/67 "2011-01-08T17:42:21Z")

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Refresh my memory - what crime has **BigT** committed to deserve all this?

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**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/68 "2011-01-08T17:52:41Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Refresh my memory - what crime has **BigT** committed to deserve all this?

I’m no legal expert, but it looks like the crime is posting in a manner that gets on people’s tits. Also, multiple counts of dressing funny and smelling of poo.

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**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/69 "2011-01-08T18:03:00Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Refresh my memory - what crime has **BigT** committed to deserve all this?

The school bullies are ganging up on him for being too nice. I wonder if they behave like this in real life, or is it easy pickings when they can hide behind their online anonymity?

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/70 "2011-01-08T18:12:16Z")

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> [@NineToTheSky](#):
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> The school bullies are ganging up on him for being too nice. I wonder if they behave like this in real life, or is it easy pickings when they can hide behind their online anonymity?

That’s actually not it at all. I pitted him for extremely valid reasons, having to do with his crapping all over a thread I was in, telling me I was wrong and immoral for providing some posting history context for the OP of that thread. It had nothing at all to do with him being nice. But if being sanctimonious helps you to feel superior as well, by all means, have a great time.

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**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/71 "2011-01-08T18:19:07Z")

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> [@lorene](#):
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> That’s actually not it at all. I pitted him for extremely valid reasons, having to do with his crapping all over a thread I was in, telling me I was wrong and immoral for providing some posting history context for the OP of that thread. It had nothing at all to do with him being nice. But if being sanctimonious helps you to feel superior as well, by all means, have a great time.

You may have started it like that, but the subsequent pile on has broadened to take in his perceived character. (For example: ‘Fucking moron’.) And, no, I don’t feel morally superior. I just think someone needs to redress the balance.

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/72 "2011-01-08T18:23:02Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Refresh my memory - what crime has **BigT** committed to deserve all this?

Crime? What the fuck are you talking about? What “crime” has any Doper ever committed to warrant a Pit thread?

He’s an annoying fucking twat, and was pitted for that reason. There is no “crime” implied.

It’s funny how MPSIMpletons feel the need to stick up for one another like this.

OMG!!! HOW CAN YOU PIT BIGT??? HE NEVER MURDERED/RAPED/ROBBED ANYONE IN HIS LIFE!!! HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE BE SO MEAN!!!1!!1eleven!

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/73 "2011-01-08T18:27:55Z")

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> [@NineToTheSky](#):
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> The school bullies are ganging up on him for being too nice. I wonder if they behave like this in real life, or is it easy pickings when they can hide behind their online anonymity?

Oh bullshit - read the thread. No one’s pitting him for his extremely helpful advice in computer threads, where he always adds something useful. He’s being pitted for his sanctimonious crap in every other thread, where he decides to start handing out morality judgment cards when he thinks people are being too judgmental.

And I don’t doubt that he hasn’t read the thread. Given his descriptions of his past panic attacks, the thought of this thread’s mere existence probably doubled his blood-pressure. Doesn’t excuse his weasel-y post, but I don’t think it was insincere (for BigT).

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/74 "2011-01-08T18:33:57Z")

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> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> Crime? What the fuck are you talking about? What “crime” has any Doper ever committed to warrant a Pit thread?
> 
> He’s an annoying fucking twat, and was pitted for that reason. There is no “crime” implied.
> 
> It’s funny how MPSIMpletons feel the need to stick up for one another like this.
> 
> OMG!!! HOW CAN YOU PIT BIGT??? HE NEVER MURDERED/RAPED/ROBBED ANYONE IN HIS LIFE!!! HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE BE SO MEAN!!!1!!1eleven!

{{{{{{{{{{{{Bigt}}}}}}}}}}}

{{{{{{{{{{{{Cat whisperererer}}}}}}}}}}}

{{{{{{{{{{{{bucketybuck}}}}}}}}}}}

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**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/75 "2011-01-08T18:41:13Z")

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> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> Crime? What the fuck are you talking about? What “crime” has any Doper ever committed to warrant a Pit thread?
> 
> He’s an annoying fucking twat, and was pitted for that reason. There is no “crime” implied.
> 
> It’s funny how MPSIMpletons feel the need to stick up for one another like this.
> 
> OMG!!! HOW CAN YOU PIT BIGT??? HE NEVER MURDERED/RAPED/ROBBED ANYONE IN HIS LIFE!!! HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE BE SO MEAN!!!1!!1eleven!

Some people can withstand pittings. Some people can’t. I suspect most posters know that \*\*BigT \*\*probably can’t. Seems like kicking someone when they’re down to me. But as it must give the pitters some sort of satisfaction, that makes it OK.

And **lorene** , ‘fucking annoying twat’ is another example of the generalised character assassination I was referring to.

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**Author:** ![Peeta\_Mellark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bc8723/32.png) [@Peeta\_Mellark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peeta_Mellark)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/76 "2011-01-08T18:44:33Z")

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For those who are confused about why **BigT** is being pitted, I’ve charted it out for them:

Sometime in the past **Claude Remains** said he wanted to “jizz in a five year old.”

Claude Remains has a friend who is 22 likes to threaten violence against women.

Claude Remains has a daughter who is 16.

The violence-threatening-friend made sexual comments about Claude Remains’s daughter.

**lorene** pointed out that this sort of indignation is pretty rich coming from a guy who said–and defended saying–that he wanted to “jizz in a five year old.”

**BigT** swooped in like a big, whiny ninny to defend (drumroll) Claude Remains. The guy who befriends violent freaks and wants to jizz in five year olds, but is horrified that someone a mere six years old than his daughter might find her attractive.

BigT has a habit of doing stupid shit like this. BigT is not being pitted for being “too nice.” BigT is being pitted for being a dipshit, simpering piss stain on the trousers of humanity.

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/77 "2011-01-08T18:44:38Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> {{{{{{{{{{{{Bigt}}}}}}}}}}}
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> {{{{{{{{{{{{Cat whisperererer}}}}}}}}}}}
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> {{{{{{{{{{{{bucketybuck}}}}}}}}}}}

What, no huggles for me? I’m crushed. I’m going to open a thread in MPSIMS, replete with references to metaphorical gang rape and cyber bullying.

I’ll get me some huggles, by God.

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**Author:** ![Peeta\_Mellark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bc8723/32.png) [@Peeta\_Mellark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peeta_Mellark)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/78 "2011-01-08T18:48:55Z")

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> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> What, no huggles for me? I’m crushed. I’m going to open a thread in MPSIMS, replete with references to metaphorical gang rape and cyber bullying.
> 
> I’ll get me some huggles, by God.

For bonus points, say that some word that’s been applied to you is _just like_ the N-word.

(+2 points for anyone who is not black, another +10 points for a middle class white American, 0 points for anyone who has _actually_ been called the N-word.)

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**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/79 "2011-01-08T18:55:27Z")

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> [@Peeta\_Mellark](#):
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> For those who are confused about why **BigT** is being pitted, I’ve charted it out for them:
> 
> Sometime in the past **Claude Remains** said he wanted to “jizz in a five year old.”
> 
> Claude Remains has a friend who is 22 likes to threaten violence against women.
> 
> Claude Remains has a daughter who is 16.
> 
> The violence-threatening-friend made sexual comments about Claude Remains’s daughter.
> 
> **lorene** pointed out that this sort of indignation is pretty rich coming from a guy who said–and defended saying–that he wanted to “jizz in a five year old.”
> 
> **BigT** swooped in like a big, whiny ninny to defend (drumroll) Claude Remains. The guy who befriends violent freaks and wants to jizz in five year olds, but is horrified that someone a mere six years old than his daughter might find her attractive.
> 
> BigT has a habit of doing stupid shit like this. BigT is not being pitted for being “too nice.” BigT is being pitted for being a dipshit, simpering piss stain on the trousers of humanity.

This - minus the last sentence - is what this pitting is - and should be - about. The rest are formless insults. What fun!

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bigthanks-to-bigt/566482/80 "2011-01-08T19:01:52Z")

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> [@NineToTheSky](#):
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> Some people can withstand pittings. Some people can’t. I suspect most posters know that \*\*BigT \*\*probably can’t.

Then he should shut his fucking pie-hole and stop posting his inane value judgments where they don’t belong. And stay away from the Pit.

> [@](#):
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> Seems like kicking someone when they’re down to me. But as it must give the pitters some sort of satisfaction, that makes it OK.

No. It gives me no satisfaction to “kick [**BigTard**] when [he’s] down.” However, it would give me immense satisfaction if he would just shut the fuck up.

> [@](#):
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> And **lorene** , ‘fucking annoying twat’ is another example of the generalised character assassination I was referring to.

Character assassination. Do you even understand what that phrase means? This is an anonymous message board. One cannot assassinate the character of an anonymous message board poster.

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