# "Bill and Ted: Face the Music" out this summer. Will it be excellent or heinous? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [June 9, 2020, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297 "2020-06-09T15:17:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/1 "2020-06-09T15:17:05Z")
Trailer here: That trailer is inconclusive, but I get a little bit of a bogus vibe. Maybe because 50-somethings acting like teenage stoners is just, kinda sad? I want to like it, because Keanu. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/2 "2020-06-09T15:28:28Z")
It might work but that trailer isn’t enough to get me to go see it at the movies. I’ll probably wait for the cable release. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/3 "2020-06-09T15:30:11Z")
I thought the second movie was hit-and-miss so I’m skeptical about a third movie. ---
**Author:** ![Tarataratara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Tarataratara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarataratara)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/4 "2020-06-09T15:43:53Z")
I really want to like it. Despite the trailer, I hope the movie shows that these two are functioning adults who can still connect with their silly, youthful sides. I’m sure I’ll watch it when it comes around free to stream. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/5 "2020-06-09T15:54:31Z")
I’m counting on it being non-, non-non-, non-non-non, NON-heinous. I recently introduced my teenage kids and Gen-Z nieces and nephews to B&T I and II and they loved them so I guess those movies have aged pretty well. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/6 "2020-06-09T16:27:17Z")
I saw the original film on cable a few months ago, and it’s something of a miracle that it works as well as it does, because it’s totally stupid. The second is perhaps more stupid, but I did laugh at the scene in which they played Twister with the Grim Reaper. I’m not hopeful about this third one. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/7 "2020-06-09T16:44:44Z")
I love both the first two, and I really want this to be good. From what I’ve heard about it so far, it at least has a chance of being a worthy successor. But the trailer doesn’t make me any more eager to see it than I was already. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/8 "2020-06-09T17:22:52Z")
Bill and Ted both look kind of worn out in the trailer but I would imagine that’s what they’re going for in the movie. More importantly, Bill Sadler is back as Death, baby! ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/9 "2020-06-09T17:27:47Z")
I will see it for sure (though probably not until it’s available via streaming) because B & T are close to my heart. And I can’t believe I’m saying this, but is it possible that Keanu doesn’t do a good Keanu anymore? It’s as if, after all the years the haters said the only role he was good in was as a stoner, and now (I think anyway) he’s proven himself to be good in other roles but has lost his Ted mojo? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/10 "2020-06-09T17:29:43Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > is it possible that Keanu doesn’t do a good Keanu anymore? Woah. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/11 "2020-06-09T17:32:44Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > Bill and Ted both look kind of worn out in the trailer but I would imagine that’s what they’re going for in the movie. More importantly, Bill Sadler is back as Death, baby! This is one of the longest gaps from prior movie to sequel. I know we just had a Mary Poppin’s sequel and it shared 1 actor at least with the original. This movie has the 2 stars and others from the prior movie though. Impressive. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/12 "2020-06-09T17:42:57Z")
I really hope that Teds day job is ‘hitman’. ---
**Author:** ![Author\_Balk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Author\_Balk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Author_Balk)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/13 "2020-06-09T17:48:22Z")
This is a good day to start this thread. It’s 6/9 - their favorite number. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/14 "2020-06-09T18:34:31Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > And I can’t believe I’m saying this, but is it possible that Keanu doesn’t do a good Keanu anymore? Yes. It’s just a trailer but from what is shown it seems like Alex Winter seemed to slip back into character with relative ease while Keanu either can’t do it or doesn’t want to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/15 "2020-06-09T18:35:35Z")
Shouldn’t the thread title say “excellent or bogus”? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/16 "2020-06-09T18:52:48Z")
I want to like it, but the trailer didn’t do it any favors. Hopefully it’s just a matter of the humor not translating well to this format. > [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Shouldn’t the thread title say “excellent or bogus”? Heinous is correct, although odious would also be accepted. From [billandted.org](http://www.billandted.org/howtospeak.htm): > [@](#): > > Bogus: Bad. > Egregious: Really bad. > Heinous: Really really bad. > Odious: Disgustingly bad. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/17 "2020-06-09T19:17:03Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Shouldn’t the thread title say “excellent or bogus”? Yeah, I was going to go with “excellent or bogus” but I thought “excellent or heinous” covered a better range. I briefly considered “excellent, bogus, or heinous?” ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/18 "2020-06-09T20:51:53Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > It’s just a trailer but from what is shown it seems like Alex Winter seemed to slip back into character with relative ease while Keanu either can’t do it or doesn’t want to do it. Aye. Mr. Reeves’ face looked frozen or something and his tone of voice wasn’t at all right. Still, there’s no way I’m not seeing this and I remain hopeful that it will not totally suck. ---
**Author:** ![pirviii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pirviii/32/3233_2.png) [@pirviii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pirviii)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/19 "2020-06-10T03:05:15Z")
Any sequel for B&T needed to be made before the death of George Carlin, just like any Ghostbuster sequel needed to be made before the loss of Harold Ramis. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/20 "2020-06-10T03:10:43Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > I thought the second movie was hit-and-miss so I’m skeptical about a third movie. Uh, I thought the second one was a huge improvement over the original. I’m looking forward to this one. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297.md?page=2)