# "Bill and Ted: Face the Music" out this summer. Will it be excellent or heinous? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [June 9, 2020, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297 "2020-06-09T15:17:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/21 "2020-06-10T03:36:55Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > I will see it for sure (though probably not until it’s available via streaming) because B & T are close to my heart. And I can’t believe I’m saying this, but is it possible that Keanu doesn’t do a good Keanu anymore? It’s as if, after all the years the haters said the only role he was good in was as a stoner, and now (I think anyway) he’s proven himself to be good in other roles but has lost his Ted mojo? I thought his best role was in Rivers Edge. He is anything but a stoner and plays his role straight. He was amazing. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/22 "2020-06-10T03:41:58Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > I thought his best role was in Rivers Edge. He is anything but a stoner and plays his role straight. He was amazing. Best Crispin Glover performance too, man. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/23 "2020-06-10T03:46:20Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I saw the original film on cable a few months ago, and it’s something of a miracle that it works as well as it does, because it’s totally stupid. Heresy! The original B&T is one of the best thought out time travel movies ever made. ---
**Author:** ![Garak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d78d45/32.png) [@Garak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garak)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/24 "2020-06-10T03:48:40Z")
I want this to be good but I am not getting my hopes up when has a sequel released this many years later not disappointed? ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/25 "2020-06-10T03:52:22Z")
> [@Garak](#): > > I want this to be good but I am not getting my hopes up > > when has a sequel released this many years later not disappointed? Mad Max Fury Road? ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/26 "2020-06-10T03:55:31Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Best Crispin Glover performance too, man. Oh man. Crispin sure chewed some scenery…and then went all bulimic with it. If he had gotten the accent right I would have enjoyed it more. The setting was a blue collar NoCal town, not the OC. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/27 "2020-06-10T05:19:43Z")
Love the first two movies–this trailer made me cringe. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/28 "2020-06-10T05:29:18Z")
So now it’s just one song that will unite the world? Will Wyld Stallyn’s entire catalog be celebrated? Well, just so long as my bowling score still goes way up and my mini golf score goes way down. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/29 "2020-06-10T06:45:10Z")
> [@Tarataratara](#): > > I really want to like it. I really wanted to like _Jay and Silent Bob Reboot_ too. But it just wasn’t there. And I have the same feeling about _Bill and Ted: Face the Music_. Sometimes people need to realize the moment has passed. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/30 "2020-06-10T07:34:04Z")
I can’t believe there is enough money that exists on this planet to convince Keanu Reeves to do another Bill and Ted. That other guy I get, his career went nowhere. (that I know of) ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/31 "2020-06-10T08:13:43Z")
I think it looks good, even from just this teaser, but then I thought the same about _Dumb and Dumber To_’s trailer, and though that turned out to be fine I guess, it felt a bit tired. Hopefully this will work out to be good fun. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/32 "2020-06-10T12:25:44Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Uh, I thought the second one was a huge improvement over the original. I liked the evil Bill & Ted robots, but I found the character of Station to be unappealing and irritating. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/33 "2020-06-10T13:48:17Z")
> [@Garak](#): > > I want this to be good but I am not getting my hopes up > > when has a sequel released this many years later not disappointed? Goldeneye? ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/34 "2020-06-10T14:12:08Z")
> [@Garak](#): > > I want this to be good but I am not getting my hopes up > > when has a sequel released this many years later not disappointed? While 2010 isn’t the classic that 2001 is, I think it is a perfectly fine movie (and arguably a better “movie” while not as good “theatrical experience”) I’ve heard generally positive reactions to “Blade Runner 2049” Brian ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/35 "2020-06-10T14:17:54Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > I can’t believe there is enough money that exists on this planet to convince Keanu Reeves to do another Bill and Ted. > > That other guy I get, his career went nowhere. (that I know of) I don’t think he’s doing it for the money. He’s been talking about making a sequel for years now. According to Wikipedia, the budget is only 25 Million. He doesn’t seem to be in the biz for money anymore. Apparently he only made a few million off John Wick 1 and 2. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/36 "2020-06-10T14:20:08Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > While 2010 isn’t the classic that 2001 is, I think it is a perfectly fine movie (and arguably a better “movie” while not as good “theatrical experience”) > > I’ve heard generally positive reactions to “Blade Runner 2049” I have no complaints about “Rocky Balboa”. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/37 "2020-06-10T14:39:52Z")
A couple things in this one’s favor: 1. Directed by the same guy who did Galaxy Quest 2. Sames writers as the first two. I think the biggest problem with most comedy sequels is that they tend to be just a rehash of the first one. Bogus Journey was pretty different from Excellent Adventure, so I hope this one will be just as different. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/38 "2020-06-10T15:47:00Z")
> [@Garak](#): > > I want this to be good but I am not getting my hopes up > > when has a sequel released this many years later not disappointed? I have not counted the years, but these were certainly close: Mad Max 4 Blade Runner 2049 Evil Dead TV show(years later and was TV, but was like a sequel) Rambo IV (the best one!) Split Sometimes, it works. I also liked, but accept the criticism of: Star Wars Episode VII (8 and 9 much less so) Indiana Jones 4 - (the hate has always surprised me) However, you are quite right that it usually is a bad idea. I think the nice thing with Bill and Ted is that neither of the first two are outrageously amazing. Cute, fun, very charming. I just hope this one is like those… ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/39 "2020-06-10T17:52:25Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Heresy. Then burn me at the stake with Miss of Arc! Those first 2 movies were excruciatingly bad. My wife and I went to the first on a “date night”, my pick. Needless to say I didn’t get any that night. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/40 "2020-06-10T18:37:32Z")
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