# "Bill and Ted: Face the Music" out this summer. Will it be excellent or heinous? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [June 9, 2020, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297 "2020-06-09T15:17:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/41 "2020-06-11T10:10:12Z")
It all depends on the Soundtrack. It’s a movie which rises and falls on it. And the second one was crap because it was just famous bands crap B-sides to sell. A baffling choice of taking the names with bad songs, over good songs. The original Bill and Ted had a soundtrack with one known name nowadays: Extreme, and they weren’t famous when they did that song. The music was superb, but the bands disappeared: have you heard much from Big Pig, Tora Tora, Bricklin, Shark Island, Power Tool, Rori, Vital signs, Robbie Robb and Range War? They were chosen because their songs were excellent. Even Stevie Salas, who did the shredding bits, never really made it big… ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/42 "2020-06-11T17:33:18Z")
> [@Ashtura](#): > > I have a bad feeling about this. Is that you, Bollo? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/43 "2020-06-11T17:43:45Z")
> [@Smid](#): > > The music was superb, but the bands disappeared: have you heard much from Big Pig, Tora Tora, Bricklin, Shark Island, Power Tool, Rori, Vital signs, Robbie Robb and Range War? They were chosen because their songs were excellent. Even Stevie Salas, who did the shredding bits, never really made it big… Power Tool was an alternate name used by Matthew and Gunnar Nelson, the twin sons of Ricky Nelson. They were the first unsigned band to play on Saturday Night Live and had a moderate hit with their first album _After the Rain_ under the name Nelson. Their manager advised them not to record their song for _Bill and Ted_ under their own names since they were in the process of securing their first record deal. They continue to record independently and release albums under their own record label. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2020, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/44 "2020-06-14T21:58:17Z")
A release date has been announced. August 14. > **[Bill & Ted Face The Music Moves Up One Week Following Wonder Woman 1984...](https://screenrant.com/bill-ted-face-music-release-date-moved-august/)** > > Bill & Ted will face the music a little earlier. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/45 "2020-06-15T14:29:22Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I saw the original film on cable a few months ago, and it’s something of a miracle that it works as well as it does, because it’s totally stupid. It’s incredibly stupid, but it’s also very smart. The people who wrote it were clearly very clever; they knew exactly what they were doing. Dumb people could not have written that movie. “Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure” is a difficult movie to describe to someone who hasn’t seen it because it is really not like any other movie. It’s science fiction, but it isn’t. It’s a stoner comedy about two guys who aren’t stoners. It’s stupid but intelligent. Despite being an 80’s comedy it has no nudity, almost no swearing, and it’s really quite sweet. It uses cliches and yet it’s really not like any other movie ever made. The use of time travel is ten times smarter than any number of serious sci fi movies but it’s also dumb as hell. As screenplays go it’s a work of genius. It takes a bizarre idea, with a lot of conflicting needs, and just nails it. It’s perfectly designed; the plotting and pacing could not be better. The likelihood this movie will be just as good is a hundred to one, at best, because the first one is miraculously good. “Bogus Journey” has a lot going for it - Bill and Ted are a delightful duo, the scenes playing games with Death are hilarious, the visuals are great, and it tries a new angle, but you just can’t strike gold that often. I’ll be floored if Face The Music is closer to #1 than #2. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/46 "2020-06-15T14:30:46Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Mad Max Fury Road? Honestly, it’s hard to call this a “sequel,” but, if it is, great example. Are James Bond movies sequels? “Casino Royale” is better than at least 90% of previous Bond movies, and IMHO, all of them. ---
**Author:** ![Pancake\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f08c70/32.png) [@Pancake\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pancake_Robot)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/47 "2020-06-16T22:08:24Z")
Heinous. The only thing worse than a sequel is a nostalgic reboot. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/48 "2020-07-02T07:03:35Z")
So I rewatched _Excellent Adventure_ tonight. I noticed in the scene where everyone is running up the escalator attempting to escape the mall cops, it looks like (from the side) Freud has a sign on his back. From some [unlisted](http://www.billandted.org/movieseaomitted.htm) deleted scene? ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/49 "2020-07-23T16:16:38Z")
New trailer is out. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/1gPGeAYo3yU/maxresdefault.jpg "BILL & TED FACE THE MUSIC Official Trailer #2 (2020)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gPGeAYo3yU) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/50 "2020-07-23T16:34:49Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > I liked the evil Bill & Ted robots, but I found the character of Station to be unappealing and irritating. Station seemed like an in-joke that was only known to 2 people who worked pre-pro but then were gone from the project. Everyone else figured it must be important since it was so prominent and so they just left it in there and filmed it. ETA: Just watched Trailer #2 and I gotta say: I’m ready to watch this movie; it looks fun. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2020, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/51 "2020-07-23T17:15:24Z")
Yeah, the second trailer leaves me feeling much better about the movie. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2020, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/52 "2020-07-23T17:30:29Z")
The trailer is most excellent. And, being Bill and Ted, they named their daughters after each other: Billie Logan and Thea Preston. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mtnmatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a3d4f5/32.png) [@mtnmatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mtnmatt)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/53 "2020-07-23T18:43:15Z")
I went to HS with Alex Winter, he’s a good guy - started out on B’way (we were in NJ) in Peter Pan, he used to leave early every day. His career went no where (or not very far) on screen but he’s been behind the camera and directed a new HBO doc about child actors that is getting good reviews: > **[‘Showbiz Kids’ on HBO: TV Review](https://variety.com/2020/tv/reviews/showbiz-kids-review-evan-rachel-wood-wil-wheaton-1234708709/)** > > In “Showbiz Kids,” a rambunctious and revealing documentary about what it’s like to be a child star in Hollywood, Henry Thomas, from “E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial” (he was 10 … The funny part about B&T to us was that he was nothing like his character at our HS, but there were MANY who were - he had a lot of material to work with. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/54 "2020-07-23T18:50:59Z")
Yeah, that trailer shows much more promise than the first one. ---
**Author:** ![Disheavel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Disheavel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disheavel)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2020, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/55 "2020-07-23T21:05:18Z")
I’m totally all in after the second trailer. I’m thinking about renting it opening night just to encourage fun, light hearted movie concepts! I sat through all 17? Marvel movies last month with my kids. I love sci-fi, I love action, and they were just blah. I wouldn’t recommend them. In one eye and immediately left my brain. Whereas Napolean and Beethoven are still there from Bill & Ted #1. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2020, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/56 "2020-07-23T23:00:53Z")
So are the media headlines from the closing of BnTBJ not canon? ---
**Author:** ![seal\_cleaner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@seal\_cleaner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seal_cleaner)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/57 "2020-07-24T00:16:59Z")
I think the movie is Keanu Reeves doing a big favor to Alex Winter. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/58 "2020-07-24T01:12:15Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Station seemed like an in-joke that was only known to 2 people who worked pre-pro but then were gone from the project. Everyone else figured it must be important since it was so prominent and so they just left it in there and filmed it. What is the inside joke? > [@seal\_cleaner](#): > > I think the movie is Keanu Reeves doing a big favor to Alex Winter. Well, yes and no. It’s also Keanu Reeves giving fans what they want. He’s making the Matrix 4 as well, just like Harrison Ford made Indy 4, Star Wars VII, and Blade Runner 2. Going back to things in your early career is very popular right now. I was hearing about Bill and Ted 3 back in the mid to late 90’s, but it always stalled. I’m glad they actually made it. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/59 "2020-07-24T01:14:50Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > > Station seemed like an in-joke that was only known to 2 people who worked pre-pro but then were gone from the project. Everyone else figured it must be important since it was so prominent and so they just left it in there and filmed it. > > What is the inside joke? As I said: “Station seemed like an in-joke that was only known to 2 people who worked pre-pro but then were gone from the project.” ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/60 "2020-07-24T15:18:45Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > So are the media headlines from the closing of BnTBJ not canon? Based on the trailer, I think this movie is all about alternate futures. It looks like we saw two different future Bill&Teds. So maybe those papers were from a timeline where everything worked out fine. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297.md?page=4)