# "Bill and Ted: Face the Music" out this summer. Will it be excellent or heinous? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [June 9, 2020, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297 "2020-06-09T15:17:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/81 "2020-08-31T00:18:49Z")
I thought the actress who played Ted’s daughter did an impressive job copying younger Ted’s original mannerisms. Specifically the quick headfakes she Bill’s daughter would do at each other when they were surprised by something, but also the general loose stances and other mannerisms. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/82 "2020-08-31T00:21:34Z")
Honestly, she did it better than Keanu Reeves did in this movie. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/83 "2020-08-31T00:24:47Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Dad Well, one of the Dads. Missy’s hubby before Cop Dad, Bill’s father, wasn’t in this one. > [@](#): > > Honestly, she did it better than Keanu Reeves did in this movie. Sadly, yes. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/84 "2020-08-31T00:30:14Z")
The more I think about it, the main takeaway was that it was nice, but that it stood out how out-of-character Reeves seemed. He just kind of did the lines and seemed nothing like Ted from the original two movies. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/85 "2020-08-31T00:30:43Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > I thought the actress who played Ted’s daughter did an impressive job copying younger Ted’s original mannerisms. I was really impressed by that; she had clearly studied the original films with considerable care. The actress doing Thea was pretty good too, but Bill isn’t as distinctive a character to imitate anyway. What they really successfully captured was the kind, sweet, friendly nature of the characters. I thought the movie was most unheinous. It wasn’t as good as Excellent Adventure. I think it was generally as good as Bogus Journey until the muddled final ten minutes. It was fun. > [@solost](#): > > Dumb question — what did they do for a living? From the reviews I’ve read, as the movie begins they live in ordinary suburban houses, so must have some kind of middle-class employment. But I’m having trouble envisioning what kind of jobs middle-aged Bill and Ted would be holding down. They WERE rock stars. They had a #1 hit. They could be doing okay off residuals. I’m internet friends with a musician who had some very big hits back in the day but is just a working musician now. They still get checks regularly from licensing deals and work just out of sheer love of it. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/86 "2020-08-31T00:32:46Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > The more I think about it, the main takeaway was that it was nice, but that it stood out how out-of-character Reeves seemed. He just kind of did the lines and seemed nothing like Ted from the original two movies. It also didn’t help that in half the scenes they were talking to mirrors of themselves, so any awkwardness with the characters was doubled. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/87 "2020-08-31T01:17:57Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I was really impressed by that; she had clearly studied the original films with considerable care. The actress doing Thea was pretty good too, but Bill isn’t as distinctive a character to imitate anyway. What they really successfully captured was the kind, sweet, friendly nature of the characters. Honestly, the movie should have been about the daughters, instead of the… smorgasbord of whatever it was about. That would have been a better movie. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/88 "2020-08-31T02:54:02Z")
It was weak, the weakest of the three movies. Just kinda bland. That said, with the way things are today, I think it’ll be better received than it otherwise would be. A movie could do worse than be a silly, warmhearted walk down memory lane right now. I liked it more than I should have to be honest, but I don’t think it will have any replay value. The goal of Bill & Ted, to unite the world, means more these days than ever. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/89 "2020-08-31T03:29:56Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > The goal of Bill & Ted, to unite the world, means more these days than ever. Yes, and I found the ending very good. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/90 "2020-08-31T04:44:47Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > Honestly, the movie should have been about the daughters There’s potential they could do another solely with the daughters. Or even a limited streaming series. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/91 "2020-08-31T04:49:17Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > There’s potential they could do another solely with the daughters. Or even a limited streaming series. This movie should have been that, with B&T as Yoda-like characters: “Billie, feel the Triumphantness _flow_ through you.” They don’t know if they can be all their dads were, but dammit they’d be _most excellent_ at trying. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/92 "2020-08-31T05:42:48Z")
Nah, it had to be about Bill and Ted. They still got it! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/93 "2020-08-31T06:51:59Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > > [@madsircool](#): > > > > Mad Max Fury Road? > > Honestly, it’s hard to call this a “sequel,” but, if it is, great example. > > Are James Bond movies sequels? “Casino Royale” is better than at least 90% of previous Bond movies, and IMHO, all of them. Huh??? There were only four Bond films released before _Casino Royale_. What’s 90% of four? ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/94 "2020-08-31T14:01:03Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Huh??? There were only four Bond films released before _Casino Royale_ . I assume he’s talking about the [2006 remake with Daniel Craig](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale_(2006_film)), which was the 21rst Bond film 🙂. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/95 "2020-08-31T14:01:10Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Huh??? There were only four Bond films released before _Casino Royale_ . > > What’s 90% of four? These days my irony detector is so worn out I can’t tell if you’re joking or not. ---
**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/96 "2020-08-31T19:05:25Z")
I find your review to be bogus. I found the movie to be most excellent! Fun, enjoyable, lots of laughs. Amazing that they worked so well together. And I truly loved the reveal of the Preston/Logan song. Most excellent. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/97 "2020-09-02T04:45:30Z")
I have to say, the best performance of the franchise was by Hal Landon Jr when [Ted possessed his dad](https://youtu.be/06L5y4Z9KcE?t=42). It was pretty exaggerated but also a spot-on Ted-Keanu imitation. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/98 "2020-09-02T14:19:32Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > I have to say, the best performance of the franchise was by Hal Landon Jr when [Ted possessed his dad](https://youtu.be/06L5y4Z9KcE?t=42). It was pretty exaggerated but also a spot-on Ted-Keanu imitation. I’m on the fence sometimes as to which of the first two movies is better. Excellent Adventure has a much tighter script. Bogus Journey, however, 1. Was clearly made on a much larger budget, and it shows. The general quality is higher, and it’s got some really awesome set pieces. The sequences in Hell are so good. 2. Is imaginative and uses the elements of cinema as art to a much greater degree, and 3. Death. Oh my God, William Sadler is funny. He should have been nominated for an Academy Award. It’s an amazingly good sequel, but fails to be better than the original because it just gets jumbled at the end. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/99 "2020-09-02T22:53:48Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Death. Oh my God, William Sadler is funny. He should have been nominated for an Academy Award. He should have been. “I helped too! I pushed the cart and I did the wigs!” ---
**Author:** ![bwilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@bwilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bwilson)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2020, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297/100 "2020-09-03T03:12:18Z")
Only heard good things about this so far… I might watch it [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-and-ted-face-the-music-out-this-summer-will-it-be-excellent-or-heinous/855297.md?page=6)