# Bill Clinton Has a Hissy fit!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 25, 2006, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067 "2006-09-25T14:24:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067/101 "2006-09-26T15:25:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Scylla]  
Clinton had seven years, Bus had 8 months.  
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I’m not sure where you’re getting seven years from. From what I can tell, OBL wasn’t even being watched by anyone in the US until 1996, and he wasn’t convicted of wrongdoing until 1998. In total, Clinton had really about two years. Bush had 9 months and eleven days, not eight months.

Finding out he was involved in the 1992 thing seems to have been something determined later (possibly why they started watching him in 96.)

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**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067/102 "2006-09-26T15:40:05Z")

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Interestingly, [fark.com](http://fark.com) has a link to a blogger who posted at least one version of the Wallace/Clinton interview, and Fox has now demanded that those videos be removed for copyright violation.

This is their right, of course.

I wonder, though, did they demand that all other FoxNews video clips be removed from [youtube.com](http://youtube.com), [video.google.com](http://video.google.com), and the other popular sites? Or was this more of a targeted pull. Hmmm.

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**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067/103 "2006-09-26T15:42:38Z")

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Oops, forgot to put the blogger’s url:

[http://www.hanlonsrazor.org/2006/09/25/fox-and-the-clinton-interview/](http://www.hanlonsrazor.org/2006/09/25/fox-and-the-clinton-interview/)

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067/104 "2006-09-26T15:53:16Z")

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I’ve heard that they’ve begun demanding the video be removed from Youtube as well. [Sure enough, it’s not there](http://www.youtube.com/index?&session=gAJ9cQEoVQxlcnJvcl9maWVsZHNxAmNfX2J1aWx0aW5fXwpzZXQKcQNdhVJxBFUGZXJyb3JzcQVdcQZVg1RoaXMgdmlkZW8gaGFzIGJlZW4gcmVtb3ZlZCBhdCB0aGUgcmVxdWVzdCBvZiBjb3B5cmlnaHQgb3duZXIgRm94IE5ld3MgTmV0d29yaywgTExDIGJlY2F1c2UgaXRzIGNvbnRlbnQgd2FzIHVzZWQgd2l0aG91dCBwZXJtaXNzaW9ucQdhVQhtZXNzYWdlc3EIXXEJdS4=) (this link may be session-specific and may not work; search youtube for yourself if you want):

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> This video has been removed at the request of copyright owner Fox News Network, LLC because its content was used without permission

It’s still on Google, though.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067/105 "2006-09-26T16:16:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Ogre]

And a “bully?” Good God, man. Bush invades a nation _for no reason_, and Clinton is a bully?

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Yep. “1984”, we have arrived. 22 years late, but we are there.  
Already on the news they’re talking about problems with the Taliban again in Afghanistan.  
:mad:

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**Author:** ![Not\_A\_Tame\_Lion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e36b37/32.png) [@Not\_A\_Tame\_Lion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_A_Tame_Lion)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067/106 "2006-09-26T16:29:52Z")

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[QUOTE=candide]  
I loved it when Bill, after putting Chris Wallace in his place, leaned back and crossed his legs, clearly the sign of a man, a president in control. Then when Chris began to ask another question, Bill uncrossed his legs and screamed,

“I fucked your mother, too! She was a whore on the ship we took to Oxford. When she’d blown me I tossed her off to that little guy – he was my Secretary of Labor – and told him, get rid of this bitch, she bites.”

Or maybe that was just a part of some wierd dream I had?  
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I just wanted to let you know, I nearly had an aneurysm I was laughing so hard at this post. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067/107 "2006-09-26T16:35:43Z")

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The best outcome of this by far is [Keith Olbermann’s commentary.](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15004160/) View the video- he’s getting to be quite the fire and brimstone take no prisoners type of speaker.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067/108 "2006-09-26T16:39:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Sage Rat]  
Bush had 9 months and eleven days, not eight months.  
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Bush was inaugurated on January 20, 2001. So just under 9 months.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067/109 "2006-09-26T16:44:53Z")

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[QUOTE=phouka]

I wonder, though, did they demand that all other FoxNews video clips be removed from [youtube.com](http://youtube.com), [video.google.com](http://video.google.com), and the other popular sites? Or was this more of a targeted pull. Hmmm.  
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If it helps you ponder that deep question, a search of You Tube results in 1570 hits.

Hmmmmm.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067/110 "2006-09-26T16:45:56Z")

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[QUOTE=BobLibDem]  
The best outcome of this by far is [Keith Olbermann’s commentary.](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15004160/) View the video- he’s getting to be quite the fire and brimstone take no prisoners type of speaker.  
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You can also see it on [YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70wOzCkWN5g).

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067/111 "2006-09-26T16:56:46Z")

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[QUOTE=BobLibDem]  
The best outcome of this by far is [Keith Olbermann’s commentary.](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15004160/) View the video- he’s getting to be quite the fire and brimstone take no prisoners type of speaker.  
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Yikes! Quel Burn!

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067/112 "2006-09-26T16:59:46Z")

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Condoleeza Rice [has responded](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15011269) to Clinton’s comments. She told the New York Post that, “What we did in the eight months was at least as aggressive as what the Clinton administration did in the preceding years.” She also denies that the Clinton Administration “left a comprehensive anti-terror strategy” for them, and she says that Richard Clark wasn’t fired, but rather quit because he didn’t become deputy director of homeland security.

Make of that what you will. Myself, I find this whole debate rather pointless. This is an archetypal example of hindsight being perfect. Prior to 9/11, terrorism just wasn’t much of a concern for most Americans. Islamic terrorists hijacked the occasional plane, but that usually ended with minimal loss of life. Aside from that, they mostly just set off bombs in some distant part of the world. I’m sure that both Clinton and Dubya had “waste Osama bin Laden,” on their to-do list, but prior to 9-11 it really wasn’t a priority. You can argue that it should have been, but again that’s arguing from hindsight.

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**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067/113 "2006-09-26T17:01:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Guinastasia]  
You can also see it on [YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70wOzCkWN5g).  
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Wow. Between that and his 9/11 commentary, I think I’m in love with Keith Olbermann.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067/114 "2006-09-26T17:50:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Guinastasia]  
You can also see it on [YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70wOzCkWN5g).  
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Dayum! Oldbermann’s quite rapidly turning into a sane version of Howard Beale. BTW, Olbermann’s going to guest on an episode of _Family Guy_ this season.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067/115 "2006-09-26T18:03:57Z")

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[QUOTE=The Weird One]  
Wow. Between that and his 9/11 commentary, I think I’m in love with Keith Olbermann.  
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Back off-I saw him first!

😛

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**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067/116 "2006-09-26T19:27:53Z")

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> [@Diceman](#):
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> Condoleeza Rice has responded to Clinton’s comments.

And I respond to Ms. Rice with some words she might find familiar:

“Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.”

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**Author:** ![Not\_A\_Tame\_Lion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e36b37/32.png) [@Not\_A\_Tame\_Lion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_A_Tame_Lion)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067/117 "2006-09-26T19:50:25Z")

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Watched the Olbermann commentary. Remarkably forceful. Way past the realm of objectivity, but it was labeled a commentary, so that’s not really a problem. Reminds me a bit of what Hunter Thompson once said about Nixon: objective journalism was what allowed Nixon to happen–you had to get subjective to really see what he was all about. Same applies today, I suppose. And I guess the “good night and good luck” signoff really said it all, as far as where he was coming from with his remarks. One has to feel that Murrow wouldn’t have put up with this shit, and it’s time others in today’s media stop putting up with it as well.

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067/118 "2006-09-26T19:54:27Z")

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Can’t watch the Olbermann video for the moment…could anyone provide a brief summary?

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067/119 "2006-09-26T20:02:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Loopydude]  
Can’t watch the Olbermann video for the moment…could anyone provide a brief summary?  
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[Complete transcript.](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15004160/00)

Lacks the passion it was spoken with, though.

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2006, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-has-a-hissy-fit/374067/120 "2006-09-26T20:03:39Z")

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**Many thanks!**

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