# Bill Clinton: Still a lying sack of shit; still getting a pass from journalists.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 5, 2010, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422 "2010-03-05T15:54:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/181 "2010-03-06T22:53:33Z")

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> [@CannyDan](#):
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> And just who \*was \*President in 1968?
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> _IT WAS **JOHNSON**!!1!ZOMG1!11!1_
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> :D;)😃
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> I detect an inconsistency, sir.

That’s because your premise is faulty. Presidents don’t dictate or even influence much how people think and behave. How many people began adopting conservative dress, manners and social values under Reagan or either of the Bushes?

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**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/182 "2010-03-06T22:55:04Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> I wonder how many, what percentage, of these “concerned citizens” lit up a roach or hit a bong in their youth? I’d say given their moral outrage, it’s a fair question.

WHO the fuck knows… I dont’t even consider them “Concerned Citizens” as much as I consider them “Gladys Kravitz’s”… but they exist and I still maintain it’s cringeworthy to watch Wille Jeff feed into it.

It almost appears symbiotic..

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/183 "2010-03-06T23:01:40Z")

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> [@CircleofWillis](#):
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> WHO the fuck knows… I dont’t even consider them “Concerned Citizens” as much as I consider them “Gladys Kravitz’s”… but they exist and I still maintain it’s cringeworthy to watch Wille Jeff feed into it.
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> It almost appears symbiotic..

You got it, and yes, Clinton probably would be smarter to just say “yeah I inhaled, a lot, whatcha gonna do about it”. If he doesn’t give a shit, and no one else gives a shit, this entire circus stops. Or if he says “none of your fucking business”. Extra points if it goes on live, so it can’t be spinned or altered 😃

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**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/184 "2010-03-07T00:05:02Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > Originally Posted by CannyDan  
> > And just who was President in 1968?
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> > IT WAS JOHNSON!!1!ZOMG1!11!1
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> > I detect an inconsistency, sir.
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> That’s because your premise is faulty. Presidents don’t dictate or even influence much how people think and behave. How many people began adopting conservative dress, manners and social values under Reagan or either of the Bushes?

It was just a joke! I thought the smilies gave that away, but perhaps not. 😃

Sorry for the distraction from this otherwise spellbinding rant.

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/185 "2010-03-07T00:26:34Z")

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I was never at a point where I would be certain that Clinton lied about inhaling. I had a grandfather who smoked tobacco products including cigarettes and he never inhaled. He puffed. Hard to believe, but I’ve seen it often enough with him.

And I can remember the first time a joint was passed to me and the struggle between guilt and getting along with the group resulted in limiting myself to puffing. It didn’t go over well with my friends who were horrified with the waste. So I succumbed to the peer pressure and as others have mentioned , I didn’t get high. Mind you pot in those days was nothing like it is today.

And in my estimation,pitting this great man who has dedicated his life in the service of others over this stupid little issue is merely indicative of a useless human being.

You aren’t 1% of the man that Clinton is **Starving Artist** so crawl back under that rock you came from.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/186 "2010-03-07T00:46:52Z")

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You have GOT to be fucking kidding me! Would you want this “great man” married to your sister? Your daughter? You think he wasn’t lying about not inhaling? What about all the other lies he’s engaged in, lies that are readily apparent to anyone with half a brain and which even his supporters in this thread readily acknowledge? He’s cheated on his wife, lied to Congress, been impeached and disbarred from the Supreme Court, and is currently trying to rehabilitate his stupid denial of smoking pot by claiming it’s a distortion made by his political enemies.

It looks like honesty and integrity don’t matter much to you, but if I thought I wasn’t 1% of the man Bill Clinton is I’d take out a gun and put a bullet in my brain.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/187 "2010-03-07T01:16:39Z")

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> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#):
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> …this great man who has dedicated his life in the service of others…

I meant to address this too. All he has ever dedicated his life to is trying to be the biggest big-shot that he could be. If he had truly been trying to be of service to others he wouldn’t have governed as he did, which was with an eye on next year’s election and last night’s polls. He had no standards, no goals, and no ambitions other than to be a big-shot. He would do whatever paid off politically and that was it.

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**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/188 "2010-03-07T01:18:38Z")

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> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#):
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> And in my estimation,pitting this great man who has dedicated his life in the service of others over this stupid little issue is merely indicative of a useless human being.

Spit or swallow?

> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#):
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> You aren’t 1% of the man that Clinton is **Starving Artist** so crawl back under that rock you came from.

You know who else wasn’t 1% the man Clinton was…

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/189 "2010-03-07T01:43:09Z")

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Knowing **Dutchman** ’s political beliefs, as demonstrated on this board, I’m guessing he’s either not feeling well or he thinks he’s committing parody.

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**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/190 "2010-03-07T01:44:37Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Knowing **Dutchman** ’s political beliefs, as demonstrated on this board, I’m guessing he’s either not feeling well or he thinks he’s committing parody.

I may have been wooshed?

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/191 "2010-03-07T01:57:11Z")

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It came as a surprise to me, too. I thought **The Flying Dutchman** was a conservative but in reading that post I decided I must have been thinking of someone else.

So if your post’s a whoosh, **FD** , I commend you sir. I bought it hook, line and sinker.

(And if not, _what the hell are you thinking_!?) 😃

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/192 "2010-03-07T02:30:28Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> It looks like honesty and integrity don’t matter much to you,…

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Presidents don’t dictate or even influence much how people think and behave.

If president’s don’t influence how people behave, why do you get yourself into such a lather over Clinton’s dishonesty? Take away the morality argument, and judged on achievements (budget, peace, and prosperity) his time in office was a success.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/193 "2010-03-07T02:34:38Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> It came as a surprise to me, too. I thought **The Flying Dutchman** was a conservative but in reading that post I decided I must have been thinking of someone else.
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> So if your post’s a whoosh, **FD** , I commend you sir. I bought it hook, line and sinker.
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> (And if not, _what the hell are you thinking_!?) 😃

**FD** used to be **puddleglum** , so he certainly does have a conservative posting history. I had to read the Clinton-praise twice because I couldn’t believe it was coming from **FD**. Which is why I think he was attempting humor. Such as it is.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/194 "2010-03-07T02:40:53Z")

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Yeah, I’m pretty sure he got me, though I don’t think I was his intended audience.

I should have known better, though. I’ve never heard anyone speak so glowingly of Clinton before, not even his most ardent admirers. If I weren’t so used to people telling me to go pound sand I’d probably have realized it. 😉

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/195 "2010-03-07T02:46:47Z")

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Well, you never know, people change. By the way, I left a box of liberal brain weevils over there, anybody know what happened to it?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/196 "2010-03-07T02:57:09Z")

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[Quote=Circle ofWillis]  
]That’s a fair statement. Maybe the news shouldn’t report on whether Trig Palin is Sarah’s or whatever the fuck the daughter’s name is. Maybe they shouldn’t report Eddie Murphy picking up transvestites. Maybe they shouldn’t report on a married Steve Phillips getting his knob polished by a 20 year old girl. Maybe they shouldn’t report on Rush Limbaugh popping oxycontin like they are Smarties. Maybe they sholdn’t report on John Edwards knocking up his flunkie. The problen is, they do.  
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Eddie Murphy picks up trannies? Honestly, if I didn’t visit this board, I’d have no idea what’s going on in the world.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/197 "2010-03-07T03:05:18Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> If president’s don’t influence how people behave, why do you get yourself into such a lather over Clinton’s dishonesty? Take away the morality argument, and judged on achievements (budget, peace, and prosperity) his time in office was a success.

I just don’t like that arrogant, lying bastard. What can I say? It’s like lies are the primary tool he uses to make people think what he wants them to think and to get what he wants, and in keeping with his Slick Willie moniker he seems to have it calculated out so that he knows that for every lie he tells, most people won’t know any better and that the relatively few who do won’t be enough to matter. I’ve often wondered if he and Hillary don’t get together privately sometimes and chuckle between themselves at all the shit they can pull and still get people to support them.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/198 "2010-03-07T03:17:43Z")

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> [@CircleofWillis](#):
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> You know who else wasn’t 1% the man Clinton was…

Ann Coulter…wait, no, she is.

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**Author:** ![Enuma\_Elish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Enuma\_Elish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enuma_Elish)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/199 "2010-03-07T04:24:05Z")

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Has anyone mentioned that Bill Clinton sold short the office of the President by getting a blowjob from Monica Lewinsky, when he, as **President of the United States of America** , could have clearly recieved oral pleasures from far more attractive women?

That slimy Arkansas bastard! Kennedy had much higher standards!

And why are conservatives mad at Clinton anyway - he got more Republican policies passed than most Republican presidents!

Heh Heh Heh Heh Heh

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/200 "2010-03-07T04:26:09Z")

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> [@Enuma\_Elish](#):
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> Has anyone mentioned that Bill Clinton sold short the office of the President by getting a blowjob from Monica Lewinsky, when he, as **President of the United States of America** , could have clearly recieved oral pleasures from far more attractive women?
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> That slimy Arkansas bastard! Kennedy had much higher standards!
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> And why are conservatives mad at Clinton anyway - he got more Republican policies passed than most Republican presidents!
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> Heh Heh Heh Heh Heh

He’s a sleazebag, that’s why.

And I suspect the landslide Republican congressional elections in '94 was a significant reason for the success of various Republican policy efforts.

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