# Bill Clinton: Still a lying sack of shit; still getting a pass from journalists. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 5, 2010, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422 "2010-03-05T15:54:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/221 "2010-03-07T10:40:44Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Hey, I’m a busy guy. I’m currently ranting and raving in a half dozen threads. Still, I see nothing there to indicate that the Supreme Court itself does the disbarment. . . . . If the court can and does disbar attorneys I’ll recant my claim . . . . > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I’ll need to see some proof before I accept that the Supreme Court engages in disbarments itself. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I couldn’t care less about the issue of whether or not the Supreme Court disbars people, and the answer either way has no effect on my credibility . . . . I take that as a win. Literally incredible. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/222 "2010-03-07T10:51:17Z")
So what it comes down to, is that the blithering idiot is lying about superior court disbarment powers in a thread in which he complains about a fellow lying about inhaling pot. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/223 "2010-03-07T14:23:14Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > And it’s not that I’m still “just very, very angry” at Clinton, which makes it sound like I’m obsessed with him; I just continue to be very, very disgusted by him virtually every time I’m exposed to him. . IMO thats the biggest problem. The dude (Clinton) just wont go away. He’s probably stayed in the limelight a much as the previous 10 presidents did combined post presidential office. Its not so much some of the stuff he did in the past. Its that he is still here and still defending it ( and in his didnt inhale/ what is is / sleazy lawyer techically ways). ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/224 "2010-03-07T14:59:36Z")
I could care either way what B Clinton does. But I have to say as long as he’s keeping **Starving Artist** , and his ilk, foaming at the mouth, and dancing like puppets straining and stretching for reasons for condemning the man, then I say let’s have some more. I hope he’s on every show going and the cover of some magazines too! I hope they give him some awards and citations, just so I can watch the stupids and their jerk circles. Dance my little puppet, dance. ---
**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/225 "2010-03-07T15:05:24Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > I could care either way what B Clinton does. But I have to say as long as he’s keeping **Starving Artist** , and his ilk, foaming at the mouth, and dancing like puppets straining and stretching for reasons for condemning the man, then I say let’s have some more. I hope he’s on every show going and the cover of some magazines too! I hope they give him some awards and citations, just so I can watch the stupids and their jerk circles. > > Dance my little puppet, dance. If you are looking for a good circle jerk, there are numerous threads to choose from. Youdon’t have to wait for **SA** to get your jerk on. [Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=554584) [are](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=554890) a few for [starters](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=511831). If you could just, ya know, mop up the floor when you are done, that’d be great. Oh, and remember, the last one done has to eat the cookie. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/226 "2010-03-07T17:12:40Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > (And besides, anyone with a taste for cigars should easily be able to handle a mouthful of smoke from a doobie.) Which is what I say he did. He puffed a mouthful of it. I’ve smoked enough joints in my days to have seen this done by noobies plenty of times. I imagine that Bill also hung out with plenty of people that weren’t hippies or into counterculture as well. ---
**Author:** ![koufax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@koufax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koufax)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/227 "2010-03-07T17:53:28Z")
Personally, I don’t think he ever even cheated on Hillary. Look at how much in love they are here [http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/clintons-dancing.jpg](http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/clintons-dancing.jpg) This is the picture that some tourist allegedly snuck up and took and when someone in the media questioned how a person could get that close to the President and that they thought it was staged, Hillary replied “Cmon! What 50 year old woman would allow herself to be photographed from the rear in a bathing suit for political reasons?” Hmmm, let’s see…maybe… Hillary Rodham Clinton These two really are the WORST liars I have ever seen. As far as I am concerned, Bill Clinton’s behavior allowed Cheney errrr I mean W to be elected because Doofus Gore wanted to distance himself from Clinton’s scandals when he should have waltzed into the oval office. And didn’t Clinton pardon the biggest tax cheat in US history? Just remember that when you are paying your taxes this year. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/228 "2010-03-07T18:01:03Z")
It was entirely common for someone to join a toking circle with no intention whatever of getting stoned. Saw it happen many, many times. Its a gesture, sometimes referred to as “kissing”, you put the joint/pipe to your lips and then pass it along. You are participating in the spirit of the thing. It can also be a way of reassuring people who don’t know you that you are “one of us”. Can’t expect **SA** to know about this, his ignorance of hippy culture is vast and unsullied by any stain of fact. And here’s another clue: control freaks don’t like pot, its too unpredictable, it can lead you think things you’d prefer not to. And if ever there was a control freak, it would have been Horndog Bill. Every move, every gesture, every action he took was taken under the consideration: how would this look when I’m running for office? So, no, even if he had gotten stoned once, I very much doubt he would do it again. Kind of thing that can look bad on your permanent record, you know? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/229 "2010-03-07T18:02:57Z")
> [@koufax](#): > > …Bill Clinton’s behavior allowed Cheney errrr I mean W to be elected … He wasn’t “elected”. W lost by half a million votes, and then he was installed. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/230 "2010-03-07T18:18:20Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > And in my estimation,pitting this great man who has dedicated his life in the service of others over this stupid little issue is merely indicative of a useless human being. > > You aren’t 1% of the man that Clinton is **Starving Artist** so crawl back under that rock you came from. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > You have GOT to be fucking kidding me! Would you want this “great man” married to your sister? Your daughter? No, he’s too old. But he’d have my blessing if he would marry my widowed mother. > [@](#): > > You think he wasn’t lying about not inhaling? What about all the other lies he’s engaged in, lies that are readily apparent to anyone with half a brain and which even his supporters in this thread readily acknowledge? He’s cheated on his wife, lied to Congress, been impeached and disbarred from the Supreme Court, and is currently trying to rehabilitate his stupid denial of smoking pot by claiming it’s a distortion made by his political enemies. > > It looks like honesty and integrity don’t matter much to you, but if I thought I wasn’t 1% of the man Bill Clinton is I’d take out a gun and put a bullet in my brain. The fact that Clinton lied about having had sex with that woman, is understandable to me, given that he’s trying to protect his family, but it burns my ass that he was asked under oath. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I meant to address this too. All he has ever dedicated his life to is trying to be the biggest big-shot that he could be. If he had truly been trying to be of service to others he wouldn’t have governed as he did, which was with an eye on next year’s election and last night’s polls. He had no standards, no goals, and no ambitions other than to be a big-shot. He would do whatever paid off politically and that was it. We’ve all failed at leading exemplary lives, but its clear to me that Clinton has devoted his life to the service of others. He started out with a cushy professorship job and within a year sought public office. His accomplishment as governor and president are enormous, but what impresses me even more is the tireless work he is accomplishing with the William J. Clinton Foundation. This is a life dedicated to the service of bettering Americans first and humanity in general. For this I hold him in high esteem. > [@jayjay](#): > > Knowing **Dutchman** ’s political beliefs, as demonstrated on this board, I’m guessing he’s either not feeling well or he thinks he’s committing parody. > [@CircleofWillis](#): > > I may have been wooshed? > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It came as a surprise to me, too. I thought **The Flying Dutchman** was a conservative but in reading that post I decided I must have been thinking of someone else. > > So if your post’s a whoosh, **FD** , I commend you sir. I bought it hook, line and sinker. > > (And if not, _what the hell are you thinking_!?) 😃 > [@elucidator](#): > > Well, you never know, people change. By the way, I left a box of liberal brain weevils over there, anybody know what happened to it? I’ve generally regarded every US president worthy of respect including both Carter and Bush II, the only two who I believe were net negatives in the progress of America and the world in general. During the Bush years, the major issue for this board was Iraq, I supported the mission, had reservations now and then and today I feel some hope that the cost was worth it. Certainly a lot less lives were lost than in the War of Independance and the American Civil War. but that is easy to say for me, being Canadian as I didn’t have to pay any price. I don’t really have a political tag. If anything I’m a centist. But I’ve been willing to voice support for any president who I feel has a comprehensive agenda with the aim to do good . History is full of positive accomplishment in the face of much opposition in the enactment. I’m surprised that **jayjay** is unaware of my numerous posts with respect supporting Hillary and subsequently Obama during the last presidential election campaign. And I’ve never had anything but good things to say about Bill Clinton in the past. > [@jayjay](#): > > **FD** used to be **puddleglum** , so he certainly does have a conservative posting history. I had to read the Clinton-praise twice because I couldn’t believe it was coming from **FD**. Which is why I think he was attempting humor. Such as it is. Who is **puddleglum**? > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Yeah, I’m pretty sure he got me, though I don’t think I was his intended audience. > > I should have known better, though. I’ve never heard anyone speak so glowingly of Clinton before, not even his most ardent admirers. If I weren’t so used to people telling me to go pound sand I’d probably have realized it. 😉 Look **S A** , there’s certainly hyperbole in my previous post but when you gratuitously attack a man of great service to humanity without crediting an iota of acknowledgement of the obvious good he has done, strikes me as " it is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing." ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/231 "2010-03-07T18:51:27Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > Who is **puddleglum**? Strange…I could have sworn I remembered you having the username **puddleglum** when you first started here, but that username still shows up as the author of its own posts, so he never got a name change. I’m stumped now as to whom I thought you were. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/232 "2010-03-07T18:55:32Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Strange…I could have sworn I remembered you having the username **puddleglum** when you first started here, but that username still shows up as the author of its own posts, so he never got a name change. I’m stumped now as to whom I thought you were. **grienspace** ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/233 "2010-03-07T19:08:32Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > **grienspace** Ah! Okay. Sorry for the misidentification. ---
**Author:** ![koufax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@koufax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koufax)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/234 "2010-03-07T19:19:46Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > We’ve all failed at leading exemplary lives, but its clear to me that Clinton has devoted his life to the service of others. He started out with a cushy professorship job and within a year sought public office. His accomplishment as governor and president are enormous, but what impresses me even more is the tireless work he is accomplishing with the William J. Clinton Foundation. This is a life dedicated to the service of bettering Americans first and humanity in general. > For this I hold him in high esteem. > > " He was running for office the day he was born. He knew that in that cushy professorship job he would only be getting college girls. As Governor and President he knew the sky was the limit for pussy. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/235 "2010-03-07T20:18:09Z")
Obviously not. I think he got trapped in the Oval Office, or a plain little chubette like Ms Lewinsky wouldn’t have had a chance. A President has zero chance to sneak off to snag a bit of strange nookie, being surrounded by Secret Service agents, that sort of thing. As Governor, he still had a bit of slack, a governor is not subjected to the same level of scrutiny. But POTUS? No way, Josefina! ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/236 "2010-03-07T20:20:34Z")
Starving Artist: Does the fact that you are a known [cowardly liar](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11327508&postcount=4) have any impact on how we should take this thread? I mean, how can we take what you’re saying as serious, when you have in the past, outright lied openly and without remorse. Then afterwards you were too much of a coward to admit it. Why are you such a cowardly liar SA? ---
**Author:** ![koufax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@koufax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koufax)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/237 "2010-03-07T21:49:30Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Obviously not. I think he got trapped in the Oval Office, or a plain little chubette like Ms Lewinsky wouldn’t have had a chance. A President has zero chance to sneak off to snag a bit of strange nookie, being surrounded by Secret Service agents, that sort of thing. As Governor, he still had a bit of slack, a governor is not subjected to the same level of scrutiny. But POTUS? No way, Josefina! He had Elanor Mondale in the oval office one day and Monica came a’callin and one of the guards outside told her he was in there with Mondale. Clinton found out and called the guard office and read him the riot act. And JFK would swim nude with 2 secretaries in the indoor cement pnd at the White House when Jackie was gone. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/238 "2010-03-07T22:03:56Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Starving Artist: Does the fact that you are a known [cowardly liar](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11327508&postcount=4) have any impact on how we should take this thread? > > I mean, how can we take what you’re saying as serious, when you have in the past, outright lied openly and without remorse. Then afterwards you were too much of a coward to admit it. > > Why are you such a cowardly liar SA? Now I’m seeing him with a mane, singing “If I were king of the forest…” “Put 'em up! Put 'em up!” ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/239 "2010-03-07T22:40:24Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Now I’m seeing him with a mane, singing “If I were king of the forest…” > > “Put 'em up! Put 'em up!” I’m seeing him sing the Scarecrow’s song personally. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/240 "2010-03-07T22:42:09Z")
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