# Bill Clinton: Still a lying sack of shit; still getting a pass from journalists. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 5, 2010, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422 "2010-03-05T15:54:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/241 "2010-03-07T22:51:44Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > So sayeth the winged monkeys. “My name is Chris, and I’m not in this.” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/242 "2010-03-07T22:58:28Z")
> [@koufax](#): > > …And JFK would swim nude with 2 secretaries in the indoor cement pnd at the White House when Jackie was gone. _Suuuuure_ he did. Probably where he plotted with RFK to snuff Marilyn Manson. Monroe. Whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/243 "2010-03-08T01:33:00Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > _Suuuuure_ he did. Probably where he plotted with RFK to snuff Marilyn Manson. Monroe. Whatever. > [@](#): > > According to Bryant, the housekeeping staff engaged in “a conspiracy of silence” to keep Jack’s trysts a secret. Jack would sometimes lounge naked around the White House swimming pool when Jackie was away, and women would arrive, undress, and join him. [_Time_ 12/29/75.](http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,945440-3,00.html) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/244 "2010-03-08T01:40:25Z")
> [@](#): > > …The only book by a former White House employee to delve into Kennedy’s sexual activities as President is Traphes Bryant’s Dog Days at the White House. A temperamental, unreliable source, Bryant was an electrician and kennel keeper at the White House from Truman’s days through Nixon’s. The gossipy book is selling briskly with tales of backstairs intrigue that are impossible to verify… You left out this part. Your source, emphasis mine. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/245 "2010-03-08T02:25:52Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > You left out this part. > > Your source, emphasis mine. That would be a problem if this story wasn’t [recounted numberless other places.](http://books.google.com/books?id=TgSz9snm7HcC&pg=PA693&lpg=PA693&dq=john+kennedy+swimming+pool+girls&source=bl&ots=QUSoKS6tjb&sig=THLpm1navla-2dZcEQbw1R-8s48&hl=en&ei=m1eUS9-NFd6x8QaD1NSoBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CCwQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=&f=false) You will note that the quote here came from a Secret Service agent and not the electrician from the first story. So what was impossible to verify in 1975 soon became well documented indeed. I am sorry for providing you with an early source rather than a later and more comprehensive one, but that was a problem with me and certainly not with this little historical fact. Given that, you may wish to drop your opposition to it. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/246 "2010-03-08T02:59:01Z")
Probably not, a whole lot of hearsay doesn’t impress me more than a little. For my two bits, JFK was perfectly content with the rumors swirling about his prowess. Men less evolved than you or I find that very flattering. Or so I’m told. But as well, he liked that it enhanced an image of virility and personal vigor, which was very much to his benefit politically. Christ Almighty, nobody on God’s green Earth ever _really_ spent that much time playing touch football! And it enhanced his masculine image, very useful when conservatives are quick to press the Wussy Button. My opinion is also firmly buttressed by hearsay. And medical records, as well. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/247 "2010-03-08T08:00:34Z")
Nurse! **Starving’s** rectal thermometer is stuck again! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/248 "2010-03-08T11:20:59Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Nope. > > You guys don’t seem to understand. Clinton (and his wife too, for that matter) lies like he breathes: constantly and without effort. > > I don’t know of any other politician, Republican or Democrat, who’s even in same ballpark with him. Ha ha ha! Oh wait, you weren’t joking. Do you pay _any_ attention to what goes on in Washington? Clinton’s positively honest compared to most of Congress these days. And Dick Cheney could outlie him with his tongue tied behind his back (did you catch him attempting to [blame Richard Clarke](http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/06/04/stewart-cheney-blames-clarke/) for dropping the ball on 9/11 a while back? He even kept a straight face!). Clinton’s long been outclassed in the lying competition. > [@](#): > > He’s also a money-grubbing, backroom sleazebag, selling pardons and taking as much advantage as possible of government allowances for ex-presidents, sticking it to the American taxpayer for more in retirement office expenses than, IIRC, Carter, Reagan and Bush 1 combined. Total donations to his presidential library have been enormous compared to other presidents and he refuses to release information as to who has donated and how much they donated. Every President is a money-grubbing backroom sleazebag, selling pardons and screwing over the public (with the possible exception of Carter, who was too damn nice). You have to be ruthless, money-grubbing and willing to make backroom deals to become President. > [@](#): > > He’s the precise embodiment of the old-school politico, wheeling and deeling and committing all sorts of underhanded financial and political chicanery in what used to be smoke-filled back rooms. He’s the exact kind of politician that other politicians and the electorate have traditionally said they want to sweep out of office. And yet the electorate keep voting for them, in both parties. What the electorate really seem to want, based on my observations, is someone who is going to lie, cheat and steal _for them_, while pretending to be squeaky clean. 'Tis the way of things. BTW, I’m surprised Johnson got mentioned in this thread without any reference to _his_ behavior behind the scenes. I mean, if you think Clinton and Kennedy were skirtchasers and wheeler-dealers, whoo doggy… ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/249 "2010-03-08T14:36:29Z")
Bill Clinton may be classless, but sure rakes in the dough (speaking engagements). I have often wondered why anybody would pay to listen to this guy. What could he tell you about aids in Africa, that you wouldn’t already know? Like all greedy ex-politicians, he never went home…of course, what would he do in Dogpatch (Arkansas)? I would not want my daughter near him! ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/250 "2010-03-08T18:49:36Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > Bill Clinton may be classless, but sure rakes in the dough (speaking engagements). > I have often wondered why anybody would pay to listen to this guy. > What could he tell you about aids in Africa, that you wouldn’t already know? > Like all greedy ex-politicians, he never went home..of course, what would he do in Dogpatch (Arkansas)? > I would not want my daughter near him! Is your daughter helpless to defend herself? Or do you think Mr. Clinton has some sort of mind-control power? ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/251 "2010-03-08T18:56:58Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Is your daughter helpless to defend herself? Or do you think Mr. Clinton has some sort of mind-control power? And if he does have mind-control power, why can’t he get a better class of babe for his mistresses? ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/252 "2010-03-08T21:02:31Z")
I believed him when he said he [didn’t inhale](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQuAytVKEoY). This is Bill Clinton, after all. You have to listen to what he says, and what he doesn’t say. It was in brownies. He was eating it. So therefore he didn’t inhale. Duh. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/253 "2010-03-10T01:29:04Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Literally incredible. I think this sums it up nicely, > [@Heeeeeeeeey FATTIES](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/heeeeeeeeey-fatties/531465/349): > > Spoken like a man who doesn’t like to admit it when he’s wrong. … Though I really am still curious exactly what “disbarred from the Supreme Court” is shorthand for. 😕 CMC fnord! Oh, and **SA** here’s the SCotUS page with the link for the [Supreme Court Bar Admissions Form](http://www.supremecourtus.gov/bar/baradmissions.html). Now, since I’ve proven that there is a SCotUS Bar, and given that whole “[separation of powers](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers_under_the_United_States_Constitution)” thing in the CotUS, who do you think holds the power to disbar lawyers from the SCotUSBA? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422.md?page=12)