# Bill Clinton: Still a lying sack of shit; still getting a pass from journalists.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 5, 2010, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422 "2010-03-05T15:54:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/21 "2010-03-05T16:21:31Z")

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Look, I think most reasonable people pretty much assumed he was lying about the “I didn’t inhale” thing from the moment he exhaled it through his lips.

But there’s really no proof one way or the other. So while you or I or even Tom Brokaw can assume with 99.99% certainty that he’s lying, you can’t accuse a President to his face of doing so with no proof whatsoever unless you lack all professional integrity, are a raving lunatic or, in the case of Joe Wilson…both.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/22 "2010-03-05T16:21:49Z")

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> [@Anne\_Neville](#):
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> Bill Clinton lies about something that most people don’t care about.
> 
> Big whoop.
> 
> I don’t care if Sarah Palin lies about what she had for breakfast, either, since I don’t care what Sarah Palin had for breakfast.

That’s only because you don’t know what Sarah eats for breakfast. If you did, you would be so consumed with rage that you would not be able to rest until you had gathered all the townsfolk, armed yourself with pitchforks & torches, and surrounded her home, demanding that she surrender, repent, and rip off her own head in penance.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/23 "2010-03-05T16:21:55Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> But, my god, man! Give it a rest! The man hasn’t held an official government position in a decade. He’s been more or less laying low (with the occasional pop-up, as when Hillary was running for the nomination, and the recent Haiti relief effort). Isn’t it about time to go “Gee, that was a silly question when they asked it the first time, **almost two decades ago** , and it really didn’t deserve a serious answer in the first place, so maybe it’s time to **let it the fuck GO!** ”?

Do you remember back during the presidential primary season when you and a few other posters around here were so gobsmacked to find out what sleazy, lying scumbags the Clinton’s really were? And how I pointed out that those of us who were listening to Rush Limbaugh during Clinton’s first run for office in the early nineties were already well aware of it, and how you’d have been aware of it too if the media hadn’t been keeping his virtual non-stop duplicity under wraps?

The issue isn’t so much Clinton (and it’d be easier to forget his sleazy ass if he wasn’t constantly trying to interject himself into the public’s consciousness) but the fact that the media time and time again allows him to lie straight to our face about things that are a matter of public record and about which there is no question. They’ve been doing that since the early nineties and it’s been going on ever since. It’s not like they just suddenly started giving him a pass now that he’s out of office.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/24 "2010-03-05T16:24:50Z")

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I don’t understand why everyone is taking **Starving Artist** at face value - did everyone watch this program? Isn’t the most obvious explanation that **SA** is posting something that only happened in his mind?

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/25 "2010-03-05T16:27:32Z")

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> [@Katriona](#):
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> > [@John Mace](#):
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> > I’m completely outraged but this. So outraged, I think I’ll eat my bagel now.
> 
> Just don’t inhale.

Yeah, you might choke if you did.

> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> That’s only because you don’t know what Sarah eats for breakfast. If you did, you would be so consumed with rage that you would not be able to rest until you had gathered all the townsfolk, armed yourself with pitchforks & torches, and surrounded her home, demanding that she surrender, repent, and rip off her own head in penance.

What, did she come to my house and kill and eat one or both of my cats?

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/26 "2010-03-05T16:30:37Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> So last night I’m watching a program on baby-boomers hosted by Tom Brokaw and he’s interviewing Bill Clinton.

If that came up when I was channel-surfing it’d take about 0.0000026 microseconds for my finger to switch to a different program.

Why do you punish yourself so, **SA**?

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**Author:** ![Camus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba8739/32.png) [@Camus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Camus)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/27 "2010-03-05T16:30:43Z")

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[Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bktd_Pi4YJw) is a much-abbreviated clip.

While we can never really know for certain whether Clinton was lying or not about inhaling (and not that it will ever really matter), Clinton himself isn’t really a lair so much as he is a dissembler. They are very close, but if you note many of Clinton’s more famous/infamous assertions such as this, he’ll admit something partway while either holding something back or giving a misleading impression of anything left over. Whether it’s admitting to trying marijuana (which is the bigger admission) but not inhaling or not having sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky (but sex is pretty strictly defined according to him and doesn’t necessarily include all the other stuff he did with her).

In any event, with all the lying going on by politicians these days over consequential and relevant things (such as UHC or that firearms and ammunition are not about to be outlawed by President “he took our jyawbs!” Obama), I can only conclude that if you’re still outraged over Clinton, you haven’t been paying much attention, **Starvie**.

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**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/28 "2010-03-05T16:30:43Z")

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Oh look, politican of one political stripe lies or commits some other stupid irrelavant act of shitty behavior. A poster of politician’s opposite political stripe pits said politician. Poster’s who ARE of said politicians political stripe defend and hand wave the actions and mock and tu quoque the ever-loving fuck out of the OP. WOW, that’s new.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/29 "2010-03-05T16:32:57Z")

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> [@niblet\_head](#):
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> You may thing many people are paying attention to you, **SA** , but you don’t take into account that there are thousands of members on this board who write you off every time you post and don’t even take the time to respond.
> 
> I’m just sayin’. Don’t take the fact that you get any attention at all as evidence that you are somehow relevant.

Look. This is a liberal message board. I am pretty vocal and direct about my objections to the liberal POV and liberal politicians. It stands to reason that that is gonna piss people off and that after a period of time, some of them will stop reading what I have to say. I’ve stopped reading myself what certain posters around here have to say because I either don’t like what they say or how they say it (or because it’s the same thing over and over, which is also a complaint sometimes lodged against me).

So, them’s the breaks when it comes to message board life. I don’t find it particularly troublesome.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/30 "2010-03-05T16:34:52Z")

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SA, you should stop doing drugs, for it is harming your mind.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/31 "2010-03-05T16:35:59Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> If that came up when I was channel-surfing it’d take about 0.0000026 microseconds for my finger to switch to a different program.
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> Why do you punish yourself so, **SA**?

The Clinton interview only comprised about three minutes of the hour long program. Some of the rest of it was interesting and some wasn’t. But you have to watch the whole thing to get to the interesting parts.

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**Author:** ![Translucent\_Daydream](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/translucent_daydream/32/16170_2.png) [@Translucent\_Daydream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Translucent_Daydream)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/32 "2010-03-05T16:37:43Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> That’s only because you don’t know what Sarah eats for breakfast. If you did, you would be so consumed with rage that you would not be able to rest until you had gathered all the townsfolk, armed yourself with pitchforks & torches, and surrounded her home, demanding that she surrender, repent, and rip off her own head in penance.

She eats retarded babies, you didn’t know thats how her son caught it? She was pregnant and chowing down. The doctors told her not to stop, but she just shot them with her moose gun.

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**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/33 "2010-03-05T16:38:02Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> If that came up when I was channel-surfing it’d take about 0.0000026 microseconds for my finger to switch to a different program.
> 
> Why do you punish yourself so, **SA**?

Prolly for the same reason we have so many “I can’t believe the shit Glenn Beck/ Rush Limbaugh / Bill O’Reilly said on his show last night” threads…

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/34 "2010-03-05T16:38:03Z")

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> [@Anne\_Neville](#):
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> [QUOTE=Skald the Rhymer]
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> [QUOTE=Anne Neville]
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> I don’t care if Sarah Palin lies about what she had for breakfast, either, since I don’t care what Sarah Palin had for breakfast.

That’s only because you don’t know what Sarah eats for breakfast. If you did, you would be so consumed with rage that you would not be able to rest until you had gathered all the townsfolk, armed yourself with pitchforks & torches, and surrounded her home, demanding that she surrender, repent, and rip off her own head in penance.  
[/QUOTE]

What, did she come to my house and kill and eat one or both of my cats?  
[/QUOTE]

Not yet. Your cats are not scheduled for her repast until June, if I am reading my notes correct. (Sorry, my bifocals are down in the lair.) And she’s only planning to eat one of them anyway. The other..

Well, let’s just say you don’t want to know and leave it at that.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/35 "2010-03-05T16:38:27Z")

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> [@Starving Artist](#):
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> The issue isn’t so much Clinton (and it’d be easier to forget his sleazy ass if he wasn’t constantly trying to interject himself into the public’s consciousness) but the fact that the media time and time again allows him to lie straight to our face about things that are a matter of public record and about which there is no question.

As noted above, it would be easier to sympathize with your outrage about this if it wasn’t so clear that the only thing that really bothers you is that a **Democratic** politician is getting the benefit of it.

When the media time and again allows Republican politicians to lie straight to our face about things that are a matter of public record, you’re completely indifferent. So it’s hard to take your complaints seriously in this case.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/36 "2010-03-05T16:39:11Z")

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> [@Translucent\_Daydream](#):
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> She eats retarded babies, you didn’t know thats how her son caught it? She was pregnant and chowing down. The doctors told her not to stop, but she just shot them with her moose gun.

That was only true in the previous timeline. We managed to correct it, as you obviously do not recall as we left you behind, but unfortunately the ramifications of what she eats now are even worse.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/37 "2010-03-05T16:39:13Z")

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> [@Anne\_Neville](#):
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> What, did she come to my house and kill and eat one or both of my cats?

Bookmarking this post for reference, anticipating when people will start wondering where the “Sarah Palin eats pussy!” rumor originated.

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**Author:** ![Translucent\_Daydream](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/translucent_daydream/32/16170_2.png) [@Translucent\_Daydream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Translucent_Daydream)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/38 "2010-03-05T16:41:11Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Bookmarking this post for reference, anticipating when people will start wondering where the “Sarah Palin eats pussy!” rumor originated.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let there be a DVD.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/39 "2010-03-05T16:42:10Z")

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> [@Camus](#):
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> [Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bktd_Pi4YJw) is a much-abbreviated clip.
> 
> While we can never really know for certain whether Clinton was lying or not about inhaling (and not that it will ever really matter), Clinton himself isn’t really a lair so much as he is a dissembler.

Well, I’m sorry but Clinton blatantly lied when he shook his finger in our face and stated unequivocally that he had not had sex with that woman, and he lied unequivocally when he said to Brokaw that he was just trying to be funny when he said he didn’t inhale.

My concerns when he was in office were that if he would lie so blatantly about things that could so easily be disproved, what the else was he lying about that no one knew about?

And I’ve destested him since he left office because he’s continually in our face trying to act the honorable elder statesman.

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**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/40 "2010-03-05T16:43:07Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Look. This is a liberal message board. I am pretty vocal and direct about my objections to the liberal POV and liberal politicians. It stands to reason that that is gonna piss people off and that after a period of time, some of them will stop reading what I have to say. I’ve stopped reading myself what certain posters around here have to say because I either don’t like what they say or how they say it (or because it’s the same thing over and over, which is also a complaint sometimes lodged against me).
> 
> So, them’s the breaks when it comes to message board life. I don’t find it particularly troublesome.

I’m sorry. Did you say something?

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