# Bill Clinton: Still a lying sack of shit; still getting a pass from journalists.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 5, 2010, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422 "2010-03-05T15:54:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/101 "2010-03-05T18:50:48Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> major intelligence services the world over thought Hussein had WMD

But the intelligent intelligence services figured that he didn’t.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/102 "2010-03-05T18:51:32Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> and doing all he could to ruin the lives of the women who came forward with his behavior

This is an allegation with absolutely no evidentiary basis.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/103 "2010-03-05T18:53:52Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Any old scuzzbug is okay as long as he’s on our side, eh?

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> What you’re suggesting is that we give Clinton a pass for going ninety miles an hour over the speed limit because Gingrich once went five miles an hour over the speed limit.

That’s how it is with most people, in my experience. At least when it comes to politics and family.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/104 "2010-03-05T19:04:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Superfluous Parentheses]

I agree completely with the OP and I suggest we impeach Bill Clinton.  
[/QUOTE]  
**Polycarp** thinks it’s possible.

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Yeah, he’s a smart guy who does incredibly stupid things, most likely out of arrogance and a history of being allowed to get away with it.

That history is sort of wny it is hard to work up much outrage.

I think there needs to be some element of surprise to create shock and outrage. Clinton lied about _everything_. The only surprise is that he was so bad at it, and the only outrage is that he was allowed to get away with it.

Now that he is no longer President, he is still lying thru his teeth. Imagine that. I rather suspect that if someone cared to look, he is still getting his knob polished by the hired help, and Hilary is looking the other way.

Obviously this kind of thing from a former politician isn;t going to get any traction on the SDMB, which is why threads about Cheney sink like a stone,

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/105 "2010-03-05T19:07:40Z")

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> [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](#):
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> I agree completely with the OP and I suggest we impeach Bill Clinton.

Damn that Clinton! Will his tyranny never end?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/106 "2010-03-05T19:12:23Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Now that he is no longer President, he is still lying thru his teeth. Imagine that. I rather suspect that if someone cared to look, he is still getting his knob polished by the hired help, and Hilary is looking the other way.

No argument there. Once a philanderer, always a philanderer.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/107 "2010-03-05T19:13:55Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> No argument there. Once a philanderer, always a philanderer.

Not true. It is possible for a man to change.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/108 "2010-03-05T19:15:32Z")

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You fuck just one sheep…

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**Author:** ![E.Thorp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@E.Thorp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E.Thorp)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/109 "2010-03-05T19:18:18Z")

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Years ago, when Christopher Hitchens was on his book tour for “No One Left To Lie To,” I attended his Seattle appearance. During the Q&A a member of the audience asked about drug use in the Clinton White House. Part of Hitchens’s answer was a story from 1968, when he and Clinton were both at Oxford (they didn’t know each other, Hitchens said, but they had mutual friends). According to Hitchens, by reputation Clinton, as big an eater then as later, was an avid devourer of pot brownies.

So there you have it. Consumed plenty of pot, didn’t inhale. I have no idea if this is true, but it’s my favorite explanation.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/110 "2010-03-05T19:24:11Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> Ah, is that what’s going on? Clinton’s saying, “I didn’t inhale, but not for lack of effort, therefore I’m the butt of a joke.”
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> **Starving Artist** is hearing “I was joking when I said I didn’t inhale.”

No, I explained all this upthread. He claimed on the show last night that he meant his “didn’t inhale” to be humorous, that it was a joke that his political enemies distorted to make it seem he really meant it, and used as part of the basis for tagging him with the “Slick Willie” moniker. I saw his statement at the time and I’ve seen video of it since, but I haven’t been able to find it today on Youtube. I did however post a quote of statement in the OP, which clearly shows he wasn’t joking when he made his comment about not inhaling. I’ll post it again since it looks like several people have missed it:

_“When I was in England, I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn’t like it. I didn’t inhale and never tried it again.”_

The fact that he wasn’t joking appears to be further substantiated by his subsequent claims, according to **Dio** , that he couldn’t inhale because of athsma.

So to me it’s pretty clear that he was not joking when he said it, that he is lying when he says he was, and that he is lying again when he tries to make it look like his political opponents twisted it into a serious comment in order to make him look bad. It’s so typical of Bill Clinton, lies upon lies, upon lies.

And yet there sat Brokaw, willingly letting himself be used as a mouthpiece for Clinton’s attempt to indict Republicans for his own dishonesty.

Truth be told I’m not really all that “outraged” by any of this, but to the degree that I am ticked off by it, it’s probably more so at Brokaw than at Clinton, from whom dishonesty, as has been pointed out, is only to be expected.

> [@Shodan](#):
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> Obviously this kind of thing from a former politician isn;t going to get any traction on the SDMB…

I never really expected it to get any traction in terms of condemnation of Clinton, but it has let to a livelier exchange than I expected, including even the offer of a blow job. Who knew?

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/111 "2010-03-05T19:28:24Z")

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Damn, Harding and the Teapot Dome Scandal too!!!

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**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/112 "2010-03-05T19:30:27Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Not true. It is possible for a man to change.

Agreed, assuming there is some catalyst for change…

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/113 "2010-03-05T19:39:15Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Now that he is no longer President, he is still lying thru his teeth. Imagine that. I rather suspect that if someone cared to look, he is still getting his knob polished by the hired help, and Hilary is looking the other way.

And my response to this is: so what? So fucking what? Seriously why do you care? He could be having a daisy-chain gang-bang Wednesday through Monday and going to North Korea on Tuesday to pick up a couple of Asian chicks and my response would be "good on him and kudos, fine sir.”

The only reason I ever give a shit about what the hell happens in the private life of a politician (Democrat or Republican) is when that politician shoves it in our face about how moral he is and how sinful we are. Because it’s funny to laugh at that guy as he gets his come-uppance when he’s caught dressed in diapers and baby bonnet with two cans of Cheese Whiz in the bathroom of a Stop-N-Go being filmed by a midget who’s high on X.

It’s the hypocrisy that grates me so much, not the lying or the philandering or drug use. It’s the hypocrisy. And it’s only Republicans that tell you how upstanding, good Christian straight Americans should be acting so it’s really only them that need making fun if (when) they eventually fall from grace.

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**Author:** ![Translucent\_Daydream](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/translucent_daydream/32/16170_2.png) [@Translucent\_Daydream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Translucent_Daydream)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/114 "2010-03-05T19:39:33Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Why would we impeach Clinton when it’s so obviously Obama’s fault? Blame Obama.

Barack **Hussein** Obama. You know it doesn’t count unless you do the **Hussein** part of it.\*\* :dubious:\*\*

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**Author:** ![Translucent\_Daydream](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/translucent_daydream/32/16170_2.png) [@Translucent\_Daydream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Translucent_Daydream)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/115 "2010-03-05T19:41:11Z")

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I vote “who cares” and "get **Starving Artist** a girlfriend or a library card or something. And cut off his cable.

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**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/116 "2010-03-05T19:43:03Z")

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> [@Translucent\_Daydream](#):
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> I vote “who cares” and "get **Starving Artist** a girlfriend or a library card or something. And cut off his cable.

Well he got the blow job offer, so all he needs is a library card.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/117 "2010-03-05T19:44:55Z")

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> [@CircleofWillis](#):
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> Well he got the blow job offer, so all he needs is a library card.

He can’t have one. Libraries are liberal institutions that are practically socialist. I’m sure he wouldn’t want to patronize one of THOSE!

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/118 "2010-03-05T19:48:19Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> No, I explained all this upthread. He claimed on the show last night that he meant his “didn’t inhale” to be humorous, that it was a joke that his political enemies distorted to make it seem he really meant it, and used as part of the basis for tagging him with the “Slick Willie” moniker. I saw his statement at the time and I’ve seen video of it since, but I haven’t been able to find it today on Youtube. I did however post a quote of statement in the OP, which clearly shows he wasn’t joking when he made his comment about not inhaling. I’ll post it again since it looks like several people have missed it:
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> _“When I was in England, I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn’t like it. I didn’t inhale and never tried it again.”_
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> The fact that he wasn’t joking appears to be further substantiated by his subsequent claims, according to **Dio** , that he couldn’t inhale because of athsma.
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> So to me it’s pretty clear that he was not joking when he said it, that he is lying when he says he was, and that he is lying again when he tries to make it look like his political opponents twisted it into a serious comment in order to make him look bad. It’s so typical of Bill Clinton, lies upon lies, upon lies.
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> And yet there sat Brokaw, willingly letting himself be used as a mouthpiece for Clinton’s attempt to indict Republicans for his own dishonesty.

Rather than your characterization of his statement, please quote what he actually said on the show. Forgive me if I am dubious about your ability to convey Clinton’s remarks to us accurately with your repeated paraphrasing.

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**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/119 "2010-03-05T19:48:43Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> He can’t have one. Libraries are liberal institutions that are practically socialist. I’m sure he wouldn’t want to patronize one of THOSE!

Well, shit, then until the libraries start putting out a little more bi-partisan effort, the dainty anti-conservative constitutions of the Dope are gonna have to get used to the vapors.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/120 "2010-03-05T19:56:43Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> It’s the hypocrisy that grates me so much, not the lying or the philandering or drug use. It’s the hypocrisy. And it’s only Republicans that tell you how upstanding, good Christian straight Americans should be acting so it’s really only them that need making fun if (when) they eventually fall from grace.

One can’t help but wonder though if you, like many other posters around these parts, use the contretemps of one Republican politician to paint Republicans in general as immoral hypocrites. Judging by the tone of your post you may very well not, and if so good on ya, but plenty here do.

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