# Bill Clinton: Still a lying sack of shit; still getting a pass from journalists.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 5, 2010, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422 "2010-03-05T15:54:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/141 "2010-03-05T20:58:55Z")

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Yeah. Ever. Because when he takes over the world, his pot smoking lying ways will come back and bite us in the ass and we’ll all be sorry for not listening.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/142 "2010-03-05T21:01:30Z")

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> [@CircleofWillis](#):
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> Sure.. and his reflection a generation later is STILL a fucking lie. It’s cringe-worthy. You never had a friend tell a repeated lie that doesn’t matter and say, “Dude, really? You’re still lying about that? Nobody believed you back in the day, why are you still lying about it now? What the fuck?”

Seriously, who gives a fuck?

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**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/143 "2010-03-05T21:04:58Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Seriously, who gives a fuck?

Exactly. Bill, I’m asking “Who gives a fuck, seriously. Stop lying. Nobody cares. Other than why still lie? We are trying to trot your old ass out at conventions and rallies, stop embarassing us with your stupidity.”

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/144 "2010-03-05T21:05:16Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> He’s a lying scumbag and people need not to forget it.

_Politicians_ are lying scumbags.

And most of the time former Presidents are given a pass by the media. It wouldn’t suprise me if GWB gets the same kind of softball treatment in the future.

The problem here is you have a seemingly irrational hatred of Bill Clinton.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/145 "2010-03-05T21:14:45Z")

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> [@Bambro](#):
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> Please forgive my ignorance, but why is that a bad thing. I skimmed over her wiki article and just saw that she was a senator that Clinton backed.

Ms Lincoln is the poster child for the revisionist, “centrist”, _menshevik_, “business friendly”, “third way” crapolapalooza that made over the Democratic party into Republican Lite.

Fuck that shit!

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/146 "2010-03-05T21:31:18Z")

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In short, Blanche Lincoln (D-Wal\*Mart).

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/147 "2010-03-05T21:37:31Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> In short, Blanche Lincoln (D-Wal\*Mart).

Don’t you mean (DINO-Wal\*Mart)

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/148 "2010-03-05T21:41:23Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> Seriously why do you care?

About this? I don’t, particularly. Like I said, it is hard to work up any sense of shock or outrage that Clinton is doing what Clinton does.

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> The only reason I ever give a shit about what the hell happens in the private life of a politician (Democrat or Republican) is when that politician shoves it in our face about how moral he is and how sinful we are.

The point being what I also already said - it isn’t so much about Clinton’s private life - it is the fact that he lied about, as mentioned, everything and anything. And when he got caught, he would go back and lie some more, just to keep his hand in. It just so happened that he got caught dead to rights perjuring himself in a sexual harassment case. When a public official is boffing the hired help, during business hours, the line between his private life and his public gets a little blurry.

But now, thanks be to a merciful God, he is no longer a public official. So his continued assault on the truth merits no more than a vaguely contemptuous “that lying sleazeball is a lying sleazeball”.

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> It’s the hypocrisy that grates me so much, not the lying or the philandering or drug use. It’s the hypocrisy. And it’s only Republicans that tell you how upstanding, good Christian straight Americans should be acting so it’s really only them that need making fun if (when) they eventually fall from grace.

I don’t know about that part - hypocrisy seems to be one of the few bi-partisan issues nowadays. I seem to remember a good deal of “believe the woman” about Anita Hill that was conspicuously absent when it came to Juanita Broaderrick and Paula Jones and Kathy Wiley.

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> Because it’s funny to laugh at that guy as he gets his come-uppance when he’s caught dressed in diapers and baby bonnet with two cans of Cheese Whiz in the bathroom of a Stop-N-Go being filmed by a midget who’s high on X.

Who told?

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/149 "2010-03-05T21:46:48Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> The problem here is you have a seemingly irrational hatred of Bill Clinton.

Nah, I don’t hate him at all, much less irrationally. I like to reserve my hate for people like Osama bin Laden and Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and their ilk (well, them and Nancy Grace ;)).

Clinton just galls me, is all. He lies much more often, and in much more obvious ways, than any other politician I can think, even his wife (though I imagine that’s mostly due to his being in the public eye more).

And now, my barber is singing her siren song so I must bid this thread adieu. Perhaps now it can sink to the depths where it and its subject belong.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/150 "2010-03-05T21:56:20Z")

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Imagine if your enthusiasm were directed against BIG lies— say, the ones that cause lots and lots and \*lots \*of people to be killed.

Or maybe this is just you starting off low and slow, in your newfound commitment to the truth? Always glad to have someone else on board, even a newbie…

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**Author:** ![WarmNPrickly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@WarmNPrickly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WarmNPrickly)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/151 "2010-03-05T22:02:37Z")

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I agree that he lied. I always knew that he lied. You had to be pretty ignorant not to know that he lied. On the other hand, it is a lie that has a surprisingly plausible angle. Anyone that has smoked pot 🆒 or been around people that smoke pot knows the myth that “you don’t get high the first time you smoke it.” While I have never personally witnessed this, I have certainly met people whom have claimed it happened to them. In general, this is suggested to be caused by inexperienced smokers not actually inhaling the smoke.

So while it is most likely that he tried to inhale, he may or may not have actually gotten high. In that case, he probably didn’t inhale.

Of course, now he is changing his story. I’m guessing he is changing his story mostly because he knows that, to the general public, it is entirely implausible that he didn’t inhale. Frankly, only people that have been around pot smokers would recognize that there is a distinctive plausibility to it.

So is he lying now, so that he can get rid of an absurd sounding fact that the general population finds ludicrous, or was he lying before, when politicians were pretty much required to distance them from any drug association whatsoever?

Only he knows, but I’ll bet most could care less. The next president elected had a clear and admitted drug history. We all knew that the politics of the time required Clinton to lie. Ronnies failed “War on Drugs” made sure of that. Most people, particularly the conservatives, assumed Clinton had lied.

This is not news. Only the conservatives playing gottcha politics think its newsworthy. They all deserve congratulations for pointing out the obvious.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/152 "2010-03-05T22:03:15Z")

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> [@CircleofWillis](#):
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> Well thats cuz their half stupid… Those with a full brain are cringing and saying “No dude, you were not the fifth Beatle. No matter how many times you say it, no one beleives you. Stop spreading that shit. It’s embarassing. Just… fucking stop.”

Who pray tell, are the people, who keep asking him about it, or dredging it up? Why don’t they stop too?

“Ask a stupid question, you get a stupid answer”  
Way back “in the day”, I smoked some, and hell yeah I inhaled. I mean, what’s the point otherwise? That’s like sucking up a beer and spitting it out - almost heresy.  
Does it matter now? No one cares, no one keeps asking me about it, no one keeps regurgitating it on The Dope.

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**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/153 "2010-03-05T22:33:53Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Who pray tell, are the people, who keep asking him about it, or dredging it up? Why don’t they stop too?
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> “Ask a stupid question, you get a stupid answer”

Well if you read the OP, the people asking him about it are NBC and Tom fucking Brokaw of all people.

> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Way back “in the day”, I smoked some, and hell yeah I inhaled. I mean, what’s the point otherwise? That’s like sucking up a beer and spitting it out - almost heresy.  
> Does it matter now? No one cares, no one keeps asking me about it, no one keeps regurgitating it on The Dope.

And you aren’t still lying about somethign so fucking stupid as to be fucking laughable. If you were, I’d call you out for being so fucking ridiculous about it. Of course you inhaled. Stop fucking lying. It’s stupid. I’m embarassed for you that you still feel the need to lie about it.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/154 "2010-03-05T23:02:36Z")

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> [@CircleofWillis](#):
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> Well if you read the OP, the people asking him about it are NBC and \*\*Tom fucking Brokaw \*\*of all people.

If Tom would actually introduce himself in that way with his voice, I might tune in just to hear it every night.

And Walter “I’ll put a cap in your ass punk” Kronkite would clean up on sweeps week.

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**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/155 "2010-03-05T23:17:54Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> And Walter “I’ll put a cap in your ass punk” Kronkite would clean up on sweeps week.

Hell I’d tune in to that just to hear his voice from beyond.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/156 "2010-03-05T23:22:04Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> And Walter “I’ll put a cap in your ass punk” Kronkite would clean up on sweeps week.

I think he would clean up in sweeps week if he were to introduce himself in any way at all.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/157 "2010-03-05T23:37:12Z")

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> [@CircleofWillis](#):
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> Hell I’d tune in to that just to hear his voice from beyond.

That distant echoey sound would add just the right something something I think.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/158 "2010-03-06T00:14:49Z")

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Shut the hell up about Clinton.

He was a good president but kind of an abhorrent human being.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/159 "2010-03-06T00:49:13Z")

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It’s only pot so who gives a shit?

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/160 "2010-03-06T00:53:50Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> That distant echoey sound would add just the right something something I think.

5:39 in: [Cronkite on Telstar July 23, 1962; 3pm.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgplIWibv4Q&feature=related)

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