# Bill Clinton: Still a lying sack of shit; still getting a pass from journalists. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 5, 2010, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422 "2010-03-05T15:54:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/161 "2010-03-06T04:28:44Z")
Can anyone explain why the subject of Clinton’s marijuana use came up in the Brokaw interview in the first place? I mean, who gives a fuck? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/162 "2010-03-06T04:40:49Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > 5:39 in: [Cronkite on Telstar July 23, 1962; 3pm.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgplIWibv4Q&feature=related) Thanks I enjoyed that. Remember that “song” Telstar? I always thought it had an interesting sound. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/163 "2010-03-06T05:08:51Z")
Has this already been used in this thread? I haven’t read it so I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/164 "2010-03-06T05:28:47Z")
It doesn’t bother me. Chime right in. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/165 "2010-03-06T09:04:36Z")
Come quick! Starving Artist is angry at a Democrat! It happens so infrequently you’d hate to miss it. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/166 "2010-03-06T09:55:18Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > And my response to this is: so what? So fucking what? Seriously why do you care? He could be having a daisy-chain gang-bang Wednesday through Monday and going to North Korea on Tuesday to pick up a couple of Asian chicks and my response would be "good on him and kudos, fine sir.” I know you weren’t responding to **SA** , but he already said in this thread why he cares: because he believes it balances out or counters the constant stream of threads here about lies and alleged malfeasance on the parts of folks like Bush, Beck, Cheney, Palin, etc. ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/167 "2010-03-06T09:55:36Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > Has this already been used in this thread? I haven’t read it so I don’t know. Thread winner. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/168 "2010-03-06T17:36:26Z")
> [@CircleofWillis](#): > > Well if you read the OP, the people asking him about it are NBC and Tom fucking Brokaw of all people. Maybe they should just stop, and maybe (just a thought) do some, I dunno, NEWS? > [@CircleofWillis](#): > > And you aren’t still lying about somethign so fucking stupid as to be fucking laughable. If you were, I’d call you out for being so fucking ridiculous about it. Of course you inhaled. Stop fucking lying. It’s stupid. I’m embarassed for you that you still feel the need to lie about it. My point is, it just doesn’t matter. Clinton should either say “hell yeah I toked, so shut up” or “mind yer own damn business”. OK, cool. But of course, he would then catch hell for “being a pothead”. It’s like the “when did you stop beating your wife” trick, or some form of “you never proved you never killed and ate anyone”. Its not new, it’s not newsworthy, it’s just stupid. Besides, if we want to tar and feather him for lying about such a ridiculous thing, what about ALL the others who lie or have lied at one time or another? That includes you, me, everyone. ---
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/169 "2010-03-06T17:54:57Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > Come quick! Starving Artist is angry at a Democrat! It happens so infrequently you’d hate to miss it. And he’s angry at a Democrat for _something that didn’t happen in 1968!!_ So that makes this, like, a once in a lifetime **SA** posting, right? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/170 "2010-03-06T18:11:53Z")
:smack::smack::smack::smack::smack: Not IN 1968, _SINCE_ 1968! Do try to keep my gripes straight please. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/171 "2010-03-06T18:36:29Z")
> [@Michael\_Ellis](#): > > He was a good president but kind of an abhorrent human being. I’m starting to suspect that those two qualities are connected. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/172 "2010-03-06T18:56:48Z")
> [@CannyDan](#): > > And he’s angry at a Democrat … Yeah, same old same old. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/173 "2010-03-06T19:25:54Z")
Oh, I don’t know. You haven’t heard me rail against Obama or Johnson or Kennedy (who by today’s standards would be Republican anyway) like you have Clinton or Carter. And Johnson instituted more social programs of the type I oppose than either of the other two. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/174 "2010-03-06T19:51:37Z")
Oh God, not _social programs!_ ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/175 "2010-03-06T21:14:46Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Oh, I don’t know. You haven’t heard me rail against Obama or Johnson or Kennedy (who by today’s standards would be Republican anyway) like you have Clinton or Carter. And Johnson instituted more social programs of the type I oppose than either of the other two. Clinton’s out of office. He can’t do much “damage” anymore. Let it go. And, which social programs of Johnson’s were the bad ones? I’m just curious if it’s some of them or all of them. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/176 "2010-03-06T21:26:13Z")
An honest question: when one smokes a cigar, you don’t fully inhale, do you? Aren’t you supposed to draw, to puff, but only contain the smoke in your mouth? This has always been my interpretation of what Clinton said, that he puffed, but like a cigar, and that he didn’t inhale the smoke into his lungs. That makes perfect sense to me, I never understood what all the fuss was over, and all the griping and whining from his detractors has been much ado about nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/177 "2010-03-06T21:32:26Z")
> [@Michael\_Ellis](#): > > Shut the hell up about Clinton. > > He was a good president but kind of an abhorrent human being. I agree with this. I’d probably hate the dude in real life. I remember not long after he left office he said something to the effect that there was so much complaining about somebody he pardoned that if he had to make the decision again he wouldn’t have granted the pardon. That really irked me. Shouldn’t pardoning be about whether justice is being served or not? ---
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/178 "2010-03-06T21:39:40Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Oh, I don’t know. You haven’t heard me rail against Obama or Johnson or Kennedy (who by today’s standards would be Republican anyway) like you have Clinton or Carter. And Johnson instituted more social programs of the type I oppose than either of the other two. And just who \*was \*President in 1968? _IT WAS **JOHNSON**!!1!ZOMG1!11!1_ :D;)😃 I detect an inconsistency, sir. ---
**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/179 "2010-03-06T21:41:20Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Maybe they should just stop, and maybe (just a thought) do some, I dunno, NEWS? That’s a fair statement. Maybe the news shouldn’t report on whether Trig Palin is Sarah’s or whatever the fuck the daughter’s name is. Maybe they shouldn’t report Eddie Murphy picking up transvestites. Maybe they shouldn’t report on a married Steve Phillips getting his knob polished by a 20 year old girl. Maybe they shouldn’t report on Rush Limbaugh popping oxycontin like they are Smarties. Maybe they sholdn’t report on John Edwards knocking up his flunkie. The problen is, they do. Why? Because the American public cares about the most most base, prurient, salacious personal details in it’s celebrities’ lives and there is a fuckload of money to be made in appealing to America’s absolute insatiability with this. Why does the American public care about this shit? Ya got me, but the National Enquirer, the Star, and the Weekly World News have massive circulations for a reason. All that being said, I don’t think there is any representation from the NBC news department on the Dope, so I am not sure why you bring it up. > [@SteveG1](#): > > My point is, it just doesn’t matter. Clinton should either say “hell yeah I toked, so shut up” or “mind yer own damn business”. OK, cool. But of course, he would then catch hell for “being a pothead”. It’s like the “when did you stop beating your wife” trick, or some form of “you never proved you never killed and ate anyone”. Except that wouldn’t happen. Ask Mark McGwire, Jose Canseco, A-Rod, and Andy Pettite about how they were treated by the press before and after they fessed up. Now go ask Roger Clemens, Sammy Sosa, Rafael Palmiero, and Barry Bonds. Once you fess up the press disappears like the cocaine bar at W’s Governor’s Inauguration. > [@SteveG1](#): > > Its not new, it’s not newsworthy, it’s just stupid. Besides, if we want to tar and feather him for lying about such a ridiculous thing, what about ALL the others who lie or have lied at one time or another? That includes you, me, everyone. You’re right. I agree with you. It DOESN’T t matter. To ME… and you apparently… it isn’t newsworthy. To millions of others however, it is as long as he continues to lie about it. So Billy-boy, compadre, amigo, kemosabe, man the fuck up, quit lying and move the fuck on. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422/180 "2010-03-06T22:30:10Z")
> [@CircleofWillis](#): > > That’s a fair statement. Maybe the news shouldn’t report on whether Trig Palin is Sarah’s or whatever the fuck the daughter’s name is. Maybe they shouldn’t report Eddie Murphy picking up transvestites. Maybe they shouldn’t report on a married Steve Phillips getting his knob polished by a 20 year old girl. Maybe they shouldn’t report on Rush Limbaugh popping oxycontin like they are Smarties. Maybe they sholdn’t report on John Edwards knocking up his flunkie. The problen is, they do. > > Why? Because the American public cares about the most most base, prurient, salacious personal details in it’s celebrities’ lives and there is a fuckload of money to be made in appealing to America’s absolute insatiability with this. Why does the American public care about this shit? Ya got me, but the National Enquirer, the Star, and the Weekly World News have massive circulations for a reason. > > All that being said, I don’t think there is any representation from the NBC news department on the Dope, so I am not sure why you bring it up. > > Except that wouldn’t happen. Ask Mark McGwire, Jose Canseco, A-Rod, and Andy Pettite about how they were treated by the press before and after they fessed up. Now go ask Roger Clemens, Sammy Sosa, Rafael Palmiero, and Barry Bonds. Once you fess up the press disappears like the cocaine bar at W’s Governor’s Inauguration. > > You’re right. I agree with you. It DOESN’T t matter. To ME… and you apparently… it isn’t newsworthy. To millions of others however, it is as long as he continues to lie about it. So Billy-boy, compadre, amigo, kemosabe, man the fuck up, quit lying and move the fuck on. I wonder how many, what percentage, of these “concerned citizens” lit up a roach or hit a bong in their youth? I’d say given their moral outrage, it’s a fair question. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clinton-still-a-lying-sack-of-shit-still-getting-a-pass-from-journalists/531422.md?page=10)