# Bill Clinton's penis a lock to move back into White House? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 18, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809 "2015-12-18T23:14:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/321 "2015-12-29T05:27:33Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Yes and no. It’s relevant if Hillary wants to assume the mantle of champion of women in the war against sexual harassment, rape, and objectification. I don’t think she does, though. Her appeal to women goes little further than being an important woman and being pro-choice. > [@](#): > > Her comment “Women should be believed” opened her up to this scrutiny. And it’s not just Bill. As I pointed out, she’s pretty soft on bad conduct when it’s anyone she’s friends with. And given how powerful her friends are, it matters if she tolerates bad behavior. I tend to agree with this. > [@adaher](#): > > And cut foolsguinea some slack. Foolsguinea is nowhere near my level of stridency and I’m sure doesn’t endorse my arguments beyond the most broad part of it(that Clinton’s escapades pose problems for Hillary, something which really isn’t controversial unless you’re in denial). Actually, what worries me is that Clinton’s escapades are a positive in the minds of a certain kind of Democrat. I’m worried about a party where Bill Clinton is seen as…um… > [@Lobohan](#): > > Clinton is a net asset to humanity. You are not. …that. Cite? DADT was a moderately big deal for its time, but ending AFDC probably negates it for me. Didn’t Clinton also sign off on gutting government research and auditing agencies, or am I conflating “Reinventing Government” with something later? I know he signed off on worsening the physician shortage in the USA. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/322 "2015-12-29T05:34:02Z")
Whatever manic state I was in when I started this thread, the larger point nagging at me is a little different than what **adaher** ’s saying. In the end, what’s really scary is not that Bill Clinton is such a randy billy goat that it wrecks Democrats (as nice as that would be to believe), but that he’s seen an electoral _boon_ by many pundits and partisans alike. It scares me that Democrats now act like we should all remember him fondly, and endorse his brand of politics. There’s a certain sort of man who thinks of Bill Clinton as a sort of political Hugh Hefner. A “stud” to be admired. But he was a mediocre President and a ridiculous egotist. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/323 "2015-12-29T06:03:28Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > In the end, what’s really scary is not that Bill Clinton is such a randy billy goat that it wrecks Democrats (as nice as that would be to believe), but that he’s seen an electoral _boon_ by many pundits and partisans alike. It scares me that Democrats now act like we should all remember him fondly, and endorse his brand of politics. He ended his Presidency with a very high approval rating. He finished with a Gallup poll approval rating of 65%, higher than that of every other departing president measured since Harry Truman. > **[Public image of Bill Clinton](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_image_of_Bill_Clinton)** > > Former U.S. President Bill Clinton's public image is most notably characterized by high public approval ratings, aided by his youthful appearance\[when?\], as well as his charismatic, and soundbite-ready style of speech. His personal background and lifestyle led to Nobel Prize-winning novelist Toni Morrison to call him the first "black president". Clinton was also dogged by investigations throughout his presidency, particularly of sexual misconduct, damaging the public's beliefs of his trustwor... ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/324 "2015-12-29T06:04:27Z")
He balanced the budget. That’s pretty studly. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/325 "2015-12-29T06:06:39Z")
Bill Clinton’s penis isn’t in the White House yet, there’s much work to be done! It’ll have to spend the upcoming months in dogged campaign work, polling the electorate and such. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/326 "2015-12-29T23:08:43Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Do you honestly _not_ recognize massive wishful thinking when you do it? He still doesn’t understand how Romney could have lost, how the polls weren’t skewed after all … so, no. > [@](#): > > You’re like my friends that were _sure_ that Obama’s mistress was going to come forward right before the '08 election. That was a _fact_, and they were bitterly disappointed when it didn’t happen. Same for the people who are confident Hillary is going to be indicted for e-mails. People like, well, **adaher**. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/327 "2015-12-30T05:30:55Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > He still doesn’t understand how Romney could have lost, how the polls weren’t skewed after all … so, no. > > Same for the people who are confident Hillary is going to be indicted for e-mails. People like, well, **adaher**. Wait, is it emails? Or Benghazi? No, that was last month. Oh, I’ll just wait til Friday… I know it’s Lewinsky for the month of January. Is February still rape month? And does it still have an R in the middle of it? When does Hilary’s fake intern tell all to the tabloids? I can’t keep up; how do those neo-cons do it? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/328 "2015-12-30T07:03:13Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Clinton is a net asset to humanity. You are not. > > And I disagree with you, because you are unable to honestly advocate for your positions. And Bill Clinton is such a paragon of virtue in this regard? Besides, I’ve never sexually harassed anyone, nor have I used my power(what little I had, but I did have some) to get in a girl’s pants, I haven’t betrayed my wife. However, it is also true that I haven’t balanced the federal budget, stopped a genocide in Kosovo, freed Haiti from dictatorship, reformed welfare, or signed numerous free trade agreements which contributed to lifting a billion people out of poverty. But then again, it wouldn’t be fair to compare me, a regular joe, to a President on career accomplishments. However, if you want to compare me to Bill Clinton as a man, I’ll take that challenge in a heartbeat. I dare say that 90% of posters in this thread who are male are better men than Bill Clinton and pretty much all of the women in this thread are better people than Bill Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/329 "2015-12-30T07:13:25Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Whatever manic state I was in when I started this thread, the larger point nagging at me is a little different than what **adaher** ’s saying. > > In the end, what’s really scary is not that Bill Clinton is such a randy billy goat that it wrecks Democrats (as nice as that would be to believe), but that he’s seen an electoral _boon_ by many pundits and partisans alike. It scares me that Democrats now act like we should all remember him fondly, and endorse his brand of politics. > > There’s a certain sort of man who thinks of Bill Clinton as a sort of political Hugh Hefner. A “stud” to be admired. But he was a mediocre President and a ridiculous egotist. He’s an electoral boon(sometimes), because he was a great President. Despite my disgust for Bill Clinton the man, when Bill Clinton the elder statesman speaks on issues, I listen. He’s one of the most brilliant men to ever be President(smarter even than Obama), one of the best explainers to ever be President(even a better communicator than Reagan), and despite his personal moral failings, believed in good government. I’ve said before that Hillary Clinton will probably make a decent President if she wins. I’m hoping for a REpublican to win in 2016, but sometimes the problems with the GOP make it hard to root for them. But let’s not make her or her husband into something they are not. Us political junkies tend to often equate a person’s political views with their human decency. But they are not the same. Don’t try to make the Clintons into something they are not. Their skill at politics and governance is remarkable, almost savant-like, given their personal integrity issues. But those issues are real, and just as remarkable as their virtues. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/330 "2015-12-30T12:27:12Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I dare say that 90% of posters in this thread who are male are better men than Bill Clinton and pretty much all of the women in this thread are better people than Bill Clinton. Bullshit. I would bet you have never had a young intern throwing themselves at you because you are not a powerful and successful person. Lets have you post again when you have successfully resisted such a temptation. Sorry that will never happen because you are a bitter loser who only makes an obsession out of democrats getting some pussy because you haven’t been laid in the last three decades. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/331 "2015-12-30T13:32:58Z")
In most lines of work, if you fucked an intern and got caught you’d be fired. And what, you don’t think women have thrown themselves at Barack Obama? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/332 "2015-12-30T13:44:23Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > In most lines of work, if you fucked an intern and got caught you’d be fired. His employer had that option, but decided not to. Not his fault. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/333 "2015-12-30T14:26:08Z")
His employer had no such option, although to some extent Al Gore took the punishment for him. And his wife, since avoiding drama was part of Obama’s argument in 2008. His wife seems likely to continue to pay for his behavior, although her own ethical shortcomings are a bigger problem for her. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/334 "2015-12-30T14:44:47Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > His employer had no such option, although to some extent Al Gore took the punishment for him. By winning the popular vote? Or did Bill’s penis influence the Supreme Court? By the way, his employee had the option, accused him, then decided he couldn’t convict him. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/335 "2015-12-31T01:15:03Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > However, it is also true that I haven’t balanced the federal budget, PAYGO was first passed in 1990, and there was the dotcom boom. If he had run a deficit, he might have had to try at it. > [@](#): > > stopped a genocide in Kosovo, freed Haiti from dictatorship, Yes, he did his job. _For a President of the United States of America,_ he was mediocre. And have I mentioned the mercenaries in Kosovo we sent in and protected from our laws and from local laws? They reportedly got up to some scary stuff, like taking slaves. Bill Clinton didn’t handle military interventions particularly well. > [@](#): > > reformed welfare, You mean, sold out a plank of the Great Society to Newt Gingrich? Yes, he governed to the right of Nixon and Reagan economically, but we’re talking about the Democratic nomination. And that call has since been criticized by one of his then-Cabinet officers. > [@](#): > > or signed numerous free trade agreements which contributed to lifting a billion people out of poverty. Again, not something that the country needed him in specific to do. Is there something about Bob Dole, G. H. W. Bush, Jerry Brown, or Bob Kerrey that would have prevented them from negotiating and signing treaties? I said mediocre and I stand by that. As a _Democrat,_ he was worse than mediocre. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/336 "2015-12-31T02:23:45Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > I said mediocre and I stand by that. As a _Democrat,_ he was worse than mediocre. You can believe that all you want, but not many people agree with you. As I’ve pointed out above his approval rating was over 60 percent when he left office, eg AFTER he was impeached. Getting a blow job didn’t actually hurt his approval rating, it actually increased it. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/337 "2015-12-31T02:27:06Z")
Well, that had more to do with the Republican overreach. He lost a lot of respect from the public and his personal favorability dropped. If the Republicans had limited themselves to a censure motion from the start things would have played out better for them. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/338 "2015-12-31T03:55:53Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Well, that had more to do with the Republican overreach. He lost a lot of respect from the public and his personal favorability dropped. No it didn’t. His approval rating was at an all time high immediately after the impeachment. And its nothing to do with overreach, its to do with the fact that there was a strong economy a balanced budget and no pointless never ending wars. The majority of American people remember the Clinton years fondly and they will welcome his Penis back to the White House. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/339 "2015-12-31T04:26:24Z")
His job approval stayed high. His personal favorability took a hit though: [http://www.pollingreport.com/clinton1.htm](http://www.pollingreport.com/clinton1.htm) ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/340 "2015-12-31T04:42:23Z")
Exactly, that proves my point. The average American doesn’t give a shit about politicians getting some action on the side. They care about the job they do, rightly so. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809.md?page=18)