# Bill Clinton's penis a lock to move back into White House?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 18, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809 "2015-12-18T23:14:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Scribble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scribble/32/3317_2.png) [@Scribble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scribble)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/381 "2016-01-04T01:04:45Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Hillary Clinton is probably going to win the Democratic nomination…

I don’t know about that. A recent poll puts Sanders in the lead for the Democratic nomination: [President Bernie Sanders? Poll Tips Sanders To Defeat Clinton And Prevail Over Trump - Inquisitr](http://www.inquisitr.com/2674549/president-bernie-sanders-new-poll-tips-sanders-to-defeat-clinton-and-prevail-over-trump-report/)

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/382 "2016-01-04T02:06:09Z")

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> [@Scribble](#):
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> I don’t know about that. A recent poll puts Sanders in the lead for the Democratic nomination: [President Bernie Sanders? Poll Tips Sanders To Defeat Clinton And Prevail Over Trump - Inquisitr](http://www.inquisitr.com/2674549/president-bernie-sanders-new-poll-tips-sanders-to-defeat-clinton-and-prevail-over-trump-report/)

Except it doesn’t. The Inquisitr story you link to mostly talks about the head to head comparison versus Trump. It doesn’t link to the specific poll (Danger, danger, Will Robinson entering political spin zone!!!) It does link to a Hill story. Following that back we get the Quinnipac poll at the root of it all ([.pdf link](https://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us12222015_Uhkm63g.pdf))

Excerpt from the link:

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> Among Democrats, Clinton tops Sanders 61 – 30 percent. Former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley has 2 percent, with 6 percent undecided and 41 percent who might change their mind.

Sanders is going to get beat down like one of the 6 year olds playing Dodge Ball against Adam Sandler in Billy Madison if those numbers hold. He’s got some threads he can draw hope from. He can argue against the “you have to vote Hillary to win” concept. Although there aren’t a lot of currently undecided almost half of likely Democratic voters are open to changing their minds. He hasn’t lost yet but being -31% is a long way from “in the lead” or Inquisitr’s “well-placed to defeat Hillary Clinton.”

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/383 "2016-01-04T02:08:04Z")

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> [@Scribble](#):
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> I don’t know about that. A recent poll puts Sanders in the lead for the Democratic nomination: [President Bernie Sanders? Poll Tips Sanders To Defeat Clinton And Prevail Over Trump - Inquisitr](http://www.inquisitr.com/2674549/president-bernie-sanders-new-poll-tips-sanders-to-defeat-clinton-and-prevail-over-trump-report/)

Mmm, I think you need to check that again, it does not say that Sanders is ahead of Clinton, only that against Trump the Democrats will win even with Sanders as the Democratic candidate. As for the nomination, it is not likely once one looks at other polls.

> **[2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination Polls | RealClearPolling](https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/democratic-primary/2016/national)**
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> Explore poll data on the 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination. Gain insights into key trends and electoral dynamics. | RealClearPolling

I don’t know where is the Inquisitor getting the idea about Sanders being ahead when the Quinnipiac poll from the 22nd of December actually reports that Clinton tops Sanders 61 - 30 percent.

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/384 "2016-01-04T18:39:01Z")

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[This blog post by Kevin Drum](http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/01/news-media-infatuated-donald-trump-part-4387) made me think of our OP:

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> In other news, apparently there’s a crazy woman who’s been following Hillary Clinton around for years in order to harangue her about Bill’s alleged sexual misconduct. She did it again today.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/385 "2016-01-05T04:52:50Z")

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If what she says is true, that Hillary doesn’t even know who accused her husband of rape, the media might want to follow up on that.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/386 "2016-01-05T06:48:16Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> If what she says is true, that Hillary doesn’t even know who accused her husband of rape, the media might want to follow up on that.

Can you provide one good reason why they should?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/387 "2016-01-05T09:32:26Z")

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Because she says they have a right to be believed. The media likes to sniff out hypocrisy. This is a golden opportunity.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/388 "2016-01-05T10:47:09Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Because she says they have a right to be believed. The media likes to sniff out hypocrisy. This is a golden opportunity.

Shouldn’t the media be coming up with what the Republican candidates have to offer women? Shouldn’t you?

Nope. you’ve got nothing.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/389 "2016-01-05T11:31:14Z")

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Less rapes, for one. That’s the benefit of law and order as opposed to coddling criminals.

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/390 "2016-01-05T12:59:14Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Less rapes, for one. That’s the benefit of law and order as opposed to coddling criminals.

The progressive and feminist ideal of destigmatizing the reporting of rapes has done far, far more to protect women and reduce sexual violence than “law and order”.

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/391 "2016-01-05T13:05:42Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Less rapes, for one. That’s the benefit of law and order as opposed to coddling criminals.

Like David Vitter?

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/392 "2016-01-05T13:24:34Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Less rapes, for one. That’s the benefit of law and order as opposed to coddling criminals.

Isn’t “fewer” a better choice than “less”?

A vocabulary question: We all know what “law” means. Our elected government creates & enforces laws; they can be changed, if sometimes too slowly. What does “and order” mean? It seems to imply extralegal restrictions to be imposed upon us. Makes me nervous.

Oh, and you haven’t named any specific Republican candidate’s policy designed to win over the female voter. Unless you’re referring to Trump’s “wall” that will block out all the Mexican Rapists…

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/393 "2016-01-05T13:26:12Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> The progressive and feminist ideal of destigmatizing the reporting of rapes has done far, far more to protect women and reduce sexual violence than “law and order”.

That’s good too, but not something a political party has much to do with. Making sure that when women do come forward that those who preyed on them go to jail and stay there is important too.

But someone did ask, so I answered. The Republicans are also more protective of womens’ right to own guns and other self defense devices like tasers, batons, and pepper sprays.

Plus we claim to be better for jobs too. Although that hasn’t yet been borne out by the data.

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/394 "2016-01-05T13:47:15Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Less rapes, for one. That’s the benefit of law and order as opposed to coddling criminals.

Would that be fewer rapes in general, or only legitimate rapes?

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/395 "2016-01-05T14:21:11Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> That’s good too, but not something a political party has much to do with. Making sure that when women do come forward that those who preyed on them go to jail and stay there is important too.
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> But someone did ask, so I answered. The Republicans are also more protective of womens’ right to own guns and other self defense devices like tasers, batons, and pepper sprays.
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> Plus we claim to be better for jobs too. Although that hasn’t yet been borne out by the data.

I think politics and parties have as much to do with one as the other (especially when there are Republicans who downplay rape). In terms of recent politics, Democrats like Kirsten Gillibrand have done far more to protect women in the Armed Forces from sexual violence than Republicans.

And Democrats claim to be better for jobs as well, of course.

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/396 "2016-01-05T15:10:55Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Democrats like Kirsten Gillibrand have done far more to protect women in the Armed Forces from sexual violence than

_every single fucking one of the_

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> Republicans

_put together._

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/397 "2016-01-05T22:43:47Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Plus we claim to be better for jobs too. Although that hasn’t yet been borne out by the data.

But you’re going to claim credit for it anyway.

Instead of admitting you support chronic liars.

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/398 "2016-01-05T23:52:08Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> But you’re going to claim credit for it anyway.
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> Instead of admitting you support chronic liars.

Considering that he’s come out in this thread to endorse extortion by Republicans, why on earth do you think chronic lying would bother him?

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/399 "2016-01-05T23:55:28Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Plus we claim to be better for jobs too. Although that hasn’t yet been borne out by the data.

I’ll admit the GOP is better for jobs. _In other countries._

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/400 "2016-01-06T21:08:09Z")

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Vox explains the Clinton rape accusation:

> **[The rape allegation against Bill Clinton, explained](https://www.vox.com/2016/1/6/10722580/bill-clinton-juanita-broaddrick)**
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> Juanita Broaddrick claims the former president assaulted her in 1978.

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