# Bill Clinton's penis a lock to move back into White House?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 18, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809 "2015-12-18T23:14:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/441 "2016-01-10T08:30:44Z")

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Actually, we’ve got a movie out about Benghazi right now.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/442 "2016-01-10T11:34:53Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> no one opposes due process for rape victims

I look forward to the day when, if a man forces his way into a woman’s vagina, her claim to that effect is treated with as much respect by the cops as I get when I claim that someone’s broken into my house.

The general consensus seems to be that we’re a few country miles away from that, still.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/443 "2016-01-10T11:39:03Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> So now Democrats’ story is that the First Spouse position does NOT count as experience? Okay, I’ll take it.

How do you get that?

Being First Lady certainly counts as _experience_. But it doesn’t count as _having responsibility for the President’s actions_. The same is true for other close Presidential advisors.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/444 "2016-01-10T12:49:44Z")

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My point is that Bill will be heavily involved in governing the country, according to Hillary’s rationale for her own justification for being President. I’m sure his advice on how to handle campus sexual assault, sexual harassment, etc. , will be quite enlightening to her.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/445 "2016-01-10T13:20:33Z")

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Oooohhh, now you’re fantasizing about _spanking_ her. 😉

Anything else you want to share with us?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/446 "2016-01-10T13:29:54Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> My point is that Bill will be heavily involved in governing the country

Good.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/447 "2016-01-10T15:14:36Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> In terms of overall crime rates, probably, but putting violent criminals behind bars and keeping them there couldn’t have hurt either. And some places, like New York, saw much steeper declines in crime than other places.

Many other countries have much lower crime rates without harsh “law and order” policies. It’s opinion, not fact, that this is the only way to improve crime. I believe that improving rehabilitation, education, and things like that in prisons could reduce recidivism, which is significantly lower in many other countries.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/448 "2016-01-10T15:15:41Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> My point is that Bill will be heavily involved in governing the country, according to Hillary’s rationale for her own justification for being President. I’m sure his advice on how to handle campus sexual assault, sexual harassment, etc. , will be quite enlightening to her.

Even if what you say is true, Hillary is still much better for the country than the Republican candidate.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/449 "2016-01-10T16:11:03Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Actually, we’ve got a movie out about Benghazi right now.

Is that supposed to prove something?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/450 "2016-01-10T17:38:29Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Is that supposed to prove something?

Oh that is adaher thinking that all the [debunkings](http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/01/07/on-msnbc-former-secretary-of-defense-leon-panet/207832) [of what the Republicans claimed](http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/01/05/how-fox-news-plans-to-use-michael-bays-benghazi/207762)did not ever took place just because the debunked points might appear in a movie.

AFAIK, the talk of the movie being a problem for Hillary is based more on wishful thinking, of course no movie does follow a book closely but in the book the movie is based:

> **[Facts Media Haven't Covered From The New 13 Hours Benghazi Book](https://www.mediamatters.org/rush-limbaugh/facts-media-havent-covered-new-13-hours-benghazi-book)**

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> The “stand down” order dispute has defined the majority of media coverage on the book. Fox News, which produced a special based on the book, has used the “stand down” reporting in 13 Hours to suggest they’ve been right all along about it. But Fox figures are moving the goalposts – they network’s obsession with a “stand down” order has revolved around the idea that the administration ordered a forces to not respond that night, which does not resemble the story laid out in the book.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/451 "2016-01-11T00:03:19Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Bill Clinton is disgusting. Luckily for me, he’s not running.
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> The Republicans are idiotic, morally bankrupt, and champions of repulsive policies. Luckily for me, I get to vote against whatever moron they nominate.

What’s morally bankrupt about one’s labor belonging to oneself? This is the problem with a system where there is a huge incentive to promise the leech class other people’s time and labor.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2016, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/452 "2016-01-11T00:09:31Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> What’s morally bankrupt about one’s labor belonging to oneself? This is the problem with a system where there is a huge incentive to promise the leech class other people’s time and labor.

There is more than one issue in this world. Even if I agreed with the Republicans on labor (or any other particular issue), I disagree with them on almost everything else.

PS – I don’t agree with them on labor, and I don’t believe that the Democratic party is less in favor of “one’s labor belonging to oneself”.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2016, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/453 "2016-01-11T00:16:18Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> What’s morally bankrupt about one’s labor belonging to oneself? This is the problem with a system where there is a **huge incentive to promise the leech class other people’s time and labor**.

I agree. The pay for CEOs should be tied to the wages they’re willing to pay.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/454 "2016-01-11T00:44:05Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> What’s morally bankrupt about one’s labor belonging to oneself?

That principle has very nearly fuck-all to do with the Republican party. But it’s adorable that you believe it.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2016, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/455 "2016-01-11T11:13:41Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> What’s morally bankrupt about one’s labor belonging to oneself? This is the problem with a system where there is a huge incentive to promise the leech class other people’s time and labor.

So you agree with Sanders then, that labor rights are important and workers shouldn’t be screwed over by the companies they work for in order to pay executives vastly inflated salaries. That’s what you meant, right?

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/456 "2016-01-11T21:12:19Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> What’s morally bankrupt about one’s labor belonging to oneself? This is the problem with a system where there is a huge incentive to promise the leech class other people’s time and labor.

What’s not morally bankrupt about referring veterans, the elderly, active military, people down on their luck or, hey, anyone who wants to use a fucking road as leeches?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/457 "2016-01-11T23:02:40Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> So you agree with Sanders then, that labor rights are important and workers shouldn’t be screwed over by the companies they work for in order to pay executives vastly inflated salaries. That’s what you meant, right?

Labor rights are important. But freely exchanging labor for pay with no wage floor is more to my liking. If there is a shortfall it can be made up with a guaranteed basic income or something of that nature.

> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> What’s not morally bankrupt about referring veterans, the elderly, active military, people down on their luck or, hey, anyone who wants to use a fucking road as leeches?

You must not get out much if you think everyone leeching is deserving. Many choose to exploit the system and that’s bad. Earned or benefits necessary because of no other choice aren’t the target.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/458 "2016-01-12T00:14:56Z")

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Wait, you use “leech” language and then shift to talking about a basic income guarantee? I think you just threw all of us.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/459 "2016-01-12T00:20:40Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Labor rights are important. But freely exchanging labor for pay with no wage floor is more to my liking. If there is a shortfall it can be made up with a guaranteed basic income or something of that nature.

So you want the government(us) to subsidize companies who want to pay pennies?  
Or is that to free up money so executives who run the company into the ground still gets their golden parachutes and _performance bonuses_.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-clintons-penis-a-lock-to-move-back-into-white-house/740809/460 "2016-01-12T00:58:18Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> You must not get out much if you think everyone leeching is deserving. Many choose to exploit the system and that’s bad. Earned or benefits necessary because of no other choice aren’t the target.

I don’t know how often you get out, but it’s apparently a place where everyone freely shared easily disproven talking points. Welfare fraud is only a problem in the minds of the uninformed. The facts say you’re wrong. And your pejorative term leeches days you’re wrong and a jerk.

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